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post #196 of 5056
Rewatched the original video. My favourite part now is the last 5 seconds where MHP starts dancing like Trigg Palin in her seat to some shitty music. Holy lol.
post #197 of 5056
Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Rewatched the original video. My favourite part now is the last 5 seconds where MHP starts dancing like Trigg Palin in her seat to some shitty music. Holy lol.

Check your chromosome priviledge.
post #198 of 5056
Originally Posted by Connemara View Post


If only all Millennials could be like me.

Ironic coming from the guy with the pajama guy avatar. It is even something I could imagine him saying.
post #199 of 5056
If Barack Obama had an adoptive grandfather, he'd look like Mitt Romney.

post #200 of 5056
If Barack and Michelle Obama had adopted a white cis child, he would look like conne.
post #201 of 5056
If Conne and Hilary Clinton adopted an adult baby it would look like Baby Finster.
post #202 of 5056
Thread Starter 
The Duck Dood was able to go against The Narrative and elude punishment. This obviously did not sit right with some folks as CNN has him splashed all over the headlines for other things he's said...several years ago to a group of religious hunters apparently. This video is from his youtube page apparently.

post #203 of 5056
Yeah the liberals aren't letting him go any more than they are letting Zim Zam go. You don't defy them and get away with it.
post #204 of 5056
Piob, don't want to hijack your thread, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this from a professional perspective.

Short version: Nurse is pregnant. Hospital requires staff to get a flu vaccination. Nurse refuses to do so because she believes it could cause a miscarriage. Hospital tells her to get the vaccine or be fired. Nurse continues to refuse and gets canned. Nurse also notes that employees who have a religious exemption to vaccination are permitted to keep working so long as they wear masks, but she wasn't given than option.

A pregnant nurse tells CNN she was fired from her job after she refused to get a flu shot for fear of miscarrying.

"I'm a healthy person. I take care of my body. For me, the potential risk was not worth it," Dreonna Breton told CNN Sunday. "I'm not gonna be the one percent of people that has a problem."

Breton, 29, worked as a nurse at Horizons Healthcare Services in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, when she was told that all employees were required to get a flu shot. The Centers of Disease Control and Prevention advises that all health care professionals get vaccinated annually.

She told her employers that she would not get the vaccine after she explained that there were very limited studies of the effects on pregnant women.

Breton came to the decision with her family after three miscarriages.

The mother of one submitted letters from her obstetrician and primary care doctor supporting her decision, but she was told that she would be fired on December 17 if she did not receive the vaccine before then.

Horizons Healthcare Services spokesman Alan Peterson told CNN affiliate WPVI that it's unconscionable for a health care worker not to be immunized and that pregnant women are more susceptible to the flu.

The CDC website states that getting a flu shot while pregnant is the best protection for pregnant women and their babies.

"I know that the CDC says to get it, and that's fine, but it was our choice to avoid the flu vaccine and the unknowns that come with that," Breton said.

Breton offered to wear a face mask at work, a practice that is used if employees are exempted for religious reasons. The hospital did not approve, according to Breton.

Breton has no interest in taking legal action, she said. She stated she only wants the company to reevaluate their policy on vaccines for pregnant employees and to continue working as a nurse.
post #205 of 5056
I thought we'd seen this exact story somewhere here before.
post #206 of 5056
Have we? I know Piob has complained about nurses before, but I don't recall discussing this case.

I think it's an interesting question because it weighs the desire to mitigate nosocomial infection against policy re: vaccines for HC workers, and it's complicated by the fact that the flu vaccine isn't an especially effective one. Also, one could argue it's unfair that the hospital in question carved out exemptions for one group that objects but not for others, although, on the other hand, I don't know that "it causes miscarriages" is a particularly compelling argument against a nurse getting vaccinated.

I thought it would be interesting to hear Piob's take on it, since he deals with this type of stuff at work.
post #207 of 5056
I'm not complaining. I do know there was an extremely similar story that Piob commented on about a nurse who objected to a flu shot and was fired over it. Piob was not sympathetic to her plight. I suspect it will be similar here. If anything, I would guess that Piob would have an unsympathetic view of any policy exceptions, religious ones included.
post #208 of 5056

I had a very well received post in that thread.
post #209 of 5056
Ah, yes, I do remember that thread, and it must be why I remember Piob as being critical of nurses. That was a most excellent post, Harv.

The old story wasn't a pregnant nurse, though, or a case where some exemptions were allowed (and provided with alternatives) and others ignored, which were the critical parts of my original question.
post #210 of 5056
In most states employment is generally at will, meaning the employer can be as arbitrary as it wants with its decisions--with a few exceptions. So the question of whether it's fair or not is probably academic.
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