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post #151 of 5112
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http://www.businessinsider.com/protesters-an-apple-bus-2013-12
The second point is semi-valid. Perhaps the tech companies can kick some cash to the city for using their bus stops... but to demand $1 billion in housing subsidies?

WTF.

Fucking people. As long as they get theirs.

The situation is truly strange. I was taking a land use planning class last year and kept raising hackles by pointing out that the Bay Area has tons of low income or affordable areas, they just come with a trade off. I can't afford to live in SF, at least not in a house with a yard in a good area. So I cross a bridge (and, in my opinion, live in a far superior town anyway) where things are a little cheaper. I have friends who just bought in Richmond because, as she put it, "the price tag started with a 2." I'm sure she would have preferred to stay where she was but 3 bed 2 bath was more important.

If you're truly poor, East Oakland is hella cheap, and thanks to Bart and the Fruitvale Station an easy commute to the city. But somehow that does not count, people want great houses, for free, wherever they want them.

The various regulations on building, rent control, and wasted gov. resources don't really help either. For whatever reason, most of the outlying cities have done a crap job of picking up the housing slack and getting in on the tech boom. Oakland should be a fucking billion dollar tech mecca but instead its a ghost town.
Edited by NorCal - 12/20/13 at 3:02pm
post #152 of 5112
Why aren't you participating in secret Santa this year?
post #153 of 5112
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I am sure this has many people bewildered. Apparently change.org has been used to host a petition to bring the Duck Dood back. Here's the link and they have about 101k signatures at this moment: http://www.change.org/petitions/a-e-network-bring-phil-robertson-back

I wish Manton could see this as it seems like we have 101k people fighting The Narrative.
post #154 of 5112
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I am sure this has many people bewildered. Apparently change.org has been used to host a petition to bring the Duck Dood back. Here's the link and they have about 101k signatures at this moment: http://www.change.org/petitions/a-e-network-bring-phil-robertson-back

I wish Manton could see this as it seems like we have 101k people fighting The Narrative.

Well, you're free to interpret that as you wish, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the fact that 0.03183% of the US population has clicked a button on change.org.
post #155 of 5112
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Well, you're free to interpret that as you wish, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the fact that 0.03183% of the US population has clicked a button on change.org.

Ok so we are free to ignore the petitions wanting to socialize energy production as well, yes? Or those claiming we're in a climate change holocaust? What is your cutoff for # to ignore?
post #156 of 5112
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Originally Posted by dah328 View Post

Well, you're free to interpret that as you wish, but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the fact that 0.03183% of the US population has clicked a button on change.org.

Ok so we are free to ignore the petitions wanting to socialize energy production as well, yes? Or those claiming we're in a climate change holocaust? What is your cutoff for # to ignore?

I don't follow your first two questions, but I do think I misread Piobaire's post.
post #157 of 5112
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I can understand the inclination from people who have lived in a city for a long time, especially multigenerational residents. It sucks realizing that you're getting priced out of "your" city.

Driven out by crime and ruined schools and other public institutions, that's one thing, but by not having enough money? That sounds really terrible.
post #158 of 5112
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Some people can take pro sports too seriously. I see today that a Washington state rep was upset the Cardinals ended the season for the Sea Hawks. He said losing sucks but losing to a racist desert wasteland sucks more in a tweet. Something tells me his tweet will not cost him his job.
post #159 of 5112
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Driven out by crime and ruined schools and other public institutions, that's one thing, but by not having enough money? That sounds really terrible.

Eh? I don't think they're right, but I sympathize with them. Who wants to leave their home? There's no real solution to that problem, but it is unfortunate for them.
post #160 of 5112
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Eh? I don't think they're right, but I sympathize with them. Who wants to leave their home? There's no real solution to that problem, but it is unfortunate for them.

Cry me a river. What we should do is tax them when they commute into the city to do the menial labor it still demands, given that they're using the roads and all that city infrastructure without paying local taxes.

Or is this somehow different than the white flight precedent I'm stuck on?
post #161 of 5112
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Some people can take pro sports too seriously. I see today that a Washington state rep was upset the Cardinals ended the season for the Sea Hawks. He said losing sucks but losing to a racist desert wasteland sucks more in a tweet. Something tells me his tweet will not cost him his job.

This is doubly dumb because the loss definitely did not end the season for the Seahawks, who have already clinched a playoff spot and will be the #1 seed in the NFC by winning next week.
post #162 of 5112
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Cry me a river. What we should do is tax them when they commute into the city to do the menial labor it still demands, given that they're using the roads and all that city infrastructure without paying local taxes.

Or is this somehow different than the white flight precedent I'm stuck on?
Human sympathy is a difficult concept, apparently.
post #163 of 5112
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Human sympathy is a difficult concept, apparently.

Is that an Obamaesque "the only reason anyone could disagree with me is if he doesn't understand" argument?
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Yeah
post #165 of 5112
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Is that an Obamaesque "the only reason anyone could disagree with me is if he doesn't understand" argument?
no.
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