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post #1336 of 5110
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But it's not "The Pogues of Canada."

Little known "fact": that was the name of Geddy Lee's first band.
post #1337 of 5110
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Little known "fact": that was the name of Geddy Lee's first band.

Yeah but the Real McKenzies are actually good, which explains why they kicked him out.
Edited by Kajak - 10/24/14 at 10:20pm
post #1338 of 5110
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This story is the essence of being Canadian and in a union:

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/booze-smuggling-windsor-cop-found-guilty-of-discreditable-conduct

Cop tries to smuggle a trunk load of booze back to Windsor and doesn't declare it to avoid paying duty. Gets caught breaking the law, so being a cop, she's put on paid leave while the disciplinary process unfolds. Four years and nearly 400k in salary later she's found guilty on one count by the Police Act. Four fucking years on paid leave! Turns out she dragged this out long enough to get her full pension and that time counted towards her pension.

Unions and Canada in a nut shell.
post #1339 of 5110
Isn't that cop unions here too?
post #1340 of 5110
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

This story is the essence of being Canadian and in a union:

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/booze-smuggling-windsor-cop-found-guilty-of-discreditable-conduct

Cop tries to smuggle a trunk load of booze back to Windsor and doesn't declare it to avoid paying duty. Gets caught breaking the law, so being a cop, she's put on paid leave while the disciplinary process unfolds. Four years and nearly 400k in salary later she's found guilty on one count by the Police Act. Four fucking years on paid leave! Turns out she dragged this out long enough to get her full pension and that time counted towards her pension.

Unions and Canada in a nut shell.

3 cases of beer, 1 case of wine, and two bottles or rum = trunk load of booze? Only if she's driving a Smart.

Seems stupid, not sure stupid enough to lose your job over.
post #1341 of 5110
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Originally Posted by greekgeek View Post

3 cases of beer, 1 case of wine, and two bottles or rum = trunk load of booze? Only if she's driving a Smart.

Seems stupid, not sure stupid enough to lose your job over.

So you do not think a cop should lose his/her job after getting busted for smuggling across international borders? I mean, if the major part of your rebut is my characterization of the size of her trunk I get where this would make sense to you, but really that's not even the major point of the issue. You apparently failed to notice she managed to drag out the process for four years and receiving nearly 400k in salary at the tax payers' expense.
post #1342 of 5110
Depends, was she bringing in 10 liters of Franzia? If so then yes.

Was she even formally charged with smuggling or simply bad behavior for a cop? Seems like a paltry amount of merch to be hit with actual smuggling charges, surprised they did not choose to confiscate and fine her (or maybe they did).

Basically, from just the article, her life career is over for what amounts to not declaring birdman's breakfast in her trunk. Does that seem appropriate to you?

As for paying out $400k, well that's just ridiculous. Not surprising that she went for it, seems rational. Who's the dumbass (es) that wrote the law?
post #1343 of 5110
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Depends, was she bringing in 10 liters of Franzia? If so then yes.

Was she even formally charged with smuggling or simply bad behavior for a cop? Seems like a paltry amount of merch to be hit with actual smuggling charges, surprised they did not choose to confiscate and fine her (or maybe they did).

Basically, from just the article, her life career is over for what amounts to not declaring birdman's breakfast in her trunk. Does that seem appropriate to you?

As for paying out $400k, well that's just ridiculous. Not surprising that she went for it, seems rational. Who's the dumbass (es) that wrote the law?

Yeah, it does seem appropriate that a cop should no longer be a cop when they get busted for international smuggling. No better than drug smugglers at that point.

The bolded would be my point. It's pure Canadian, pure union.
post #1344 of 5110
Would not have thought that the IRS could confiscate your money without any charges, liens etc but guess I was wrong confused.gif

http://theweek.com/article/index/270692/speedreads-irs-seizes-womans-entire-savings-because-she-deposits-less-than-10000-at-a-time
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Would not have thought that the IRS could confiscate your money without any charges, liens etc but guess I was wrong confused.gif

http://theweek.com/article/index/270692/speedreads-irs-seizes-womans-entire-savings-because-she-deposits-less-than-10000-at-a-time

The IRS does some f'd up shit. That said, I'd be wary of accepting the characterizations in the article. I've worked on some cases over the years that got some press coverage, and I can't think of a single one where there weren't some glaring errors or inaccuracies in the article.

I could be totally wrong, but I'm guessing the money was, in fact, subjected to a lien or temporary freeze rather than "confiscated" in the sense of being irrevocably appropriated. "Structuring" (deliberately breaking what in effect would be a large deposit into multiple sub-$10K deposits to avoid mandatory reporting by the bank is a federal offense. It's designed to help combat money laundering, among other things. I'm not an expert in the area, but the guv'mint has some preliminary, provisional remedies that allow it to freeze funds that appear to be related to such illegal activity so that the money doesn't disappear before the matter can be adjudicated. It sounds like this woman engaged in transactions that somebody thought constituted such conduct. Maybe that was a totally asinine judgment, or maybe she's a crook and is just BS'ing. No idea.

No idea if they acted reasonably or unreasonably here -- just providing some context, and noting that I would bet money (assuming the IRS hasn't already snatched it from my account) that they reporter's description contains at least three mischaracterizations or other inaccuracies.
post #1346 of 5110
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The IRS does some f'd up shit. That said, I'd be wary of accepting the characterizations in the article. I've worked on some cases over the years that got some press coverage, and I can't think of a single one where there weren't some glaring errors or inaccuracies in the article.

I could be totally wrong, but I'm guessing the money was, in fact, subjected to a lien or temporary freeze rather than "confiscated" in the sense of being irrevocably appropriated. "Structuring" (deliberately breaking what in effect would be a large deposit into multiple sub-$10K deposits to avoid mandatory reporting by the bank is a federal offense. It's designed to help combat money laundering, among other things. I'm not an expert in the area, but the guv'mint has some preliminary, provisional remedies that allow it to freeze funds that appear to be related to such illegal activity so that the money doesn't disappear before the matter can be adjudicated. It sounds like this woman engaged in transactions that somebody thought constituted such conduct. Maybe that was a totally asinine judgment, or maybe she's a crook and is just BS'ing. No idea.

No idea if they acted reasonably or unreasonably here -- just providing some context, and noting that I would bet money (assuming the IRS hasn't already snatched it from my account) that they reporter's description contains at least three mischaracterizations or other inaccuracies.

You are no doubt correct in all this background info, but in this particular case, I think someone needs their head examined if for no other reason the paltry amount. It just seems to me with all the huge dollars floating around the criminal world 33k is a little bit tiny to be worried about and waste the time of the IRS and whatever other law enforcement needs to be brought in on the case. Whoever approved that should probably get a little talking to.
post #1347 of 5110
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You are no doubt correct in all this background info, but in this particular case, I think someone needs their head examined if for no other reason the paltry amount. It just seems to me with all the huge dollars floating around the criminal world 33k is a little bit tiny to be worried about and waste the time of the IRS and whatever other law enforcement needs to be brought in on the case. Whoever approved that should probably get a little talking to.

Yeah, assuming the general facts are as reported, no argument about that.
post #1348 of 5110
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Yeah, it does seem appropriate that a cop should no longer be a cop when they get busted for international smuggling. No better than drug smugglers at that point.

The bolded would be my point. It's pure Canadian, pure union.

Alright I'll get on board. International drug* smuggling cop gets 4 year paid vacation instead of prison time! The headline almost writes itself happy.gif

*alcohol=drug, D.A.R.E taught me this
post #1349 of 5110
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/why-are-liberal-cities-so-unaffordable/382045/

An article in The Atlantic makes the case that the more liberal a city the worse the environment is for the poor and middle class to live. Income inequality actually worsens as a metro area become more liberal. The most liberal large US city, San Francisco, is the hardest place to be poor and/or middle class.
post #1350 of 5110
That's interesting. A bunch of my progressive friends have been railing about the evil of gentrification, and there's a total lack of discussion about how to solve this. The solution (as always, it seems) is just to shame rich whites for moving into poorer areas and mucking things up. There's really no realistic proposals that solve the issue of high demand, reasonable prices, and maintaining whatever factors make people want to live in these areas in the first place.
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