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post #121 of 5119
Statement from Phil.

“I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”
post #122 of 5119
Also, where was all of this outrage with Alec Baldwin?
post #123 of 5119
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Originally Posted by zarathustra View Post

Also, where was all of this outrage with Alec Baldwin?

Wasn't Alec Baldwin already fired by then?
post #124 of 5119
The Duck Dynasty redneck's comment on black people pre-Civil Rights is much more offensive to me than his rather tame comments about gays.

Of course, I don't give a shit either way as I don't watch redneck reality TV shows. It'd be silly for A&E to do anything based on the views of my demographic.
post #125 of 5119
post #126 of 5119
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

The Duck Dynasty redneck's comment on black people pre-Civil Rights is much more offensive to me than his rather tame comments about gays.

 

I'm surprised more people haven't latched on to this. Out of everything he said, this was the most cringe-worthy.

post #127 of 5119
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

The Duck Dynasty redneck's comment on black people pre-Civil Rights is much more offensive to me than his rather tame comments about gays.

Of course, I don't give a shit either way as I don't watch redneck reality TV shows. It'd be silly for A&E to do anything based on the views of my demographic.

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Originally Posted by upthewazzu View Post

I'm surprised more people haven't latched on to this. Out of everything he said, this was the most cringe-worthy.

As they say, I don't know how he felt in his heart, but did you read his remarks in context?


"The same goes for the comments about segregated-south. He was pointing out that where HE lived and worked side by side with black workers, they were ALL poor together and no one complained. At no time did he say that he thought we should go back to segregation. In fact, he was involved in similar oppression because he was in a SIMILAR situation to many of the oppressed blacks in Louisiana...poor and forced to rely on more well off white farmers. It's not like he was a well-traveled, rich, educated man saying "Yep, those blacks are happy!" He wasn't one of the ones doing the oppressing...he too was at the bottom of the totem pole at the time. If people are going to be angry about something, then they should at least be analytic enough to look at the whole picture and to take in context with what is being said.
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post #128 of 5119
Yeah, taking offense to his race remarks takes a pretty profound ignorance of what it was like to be poor in the rural South during the time Robertson was referencing.
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post #130 of 5119
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Huffington Post's comments section is decidedly free of intelligence.
So if a muslim man, in his off-work hours, expresses his religious belief that one should not eat pork I am free to fire him, yes?
It is good to know that the HuffPost commentators want to repeal the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Next time they get on Ron Paul's case for saying the same thing I will remind them of this.

I think A&E overreacted, and they are stupid for firing someone over this. That being said, I think they are absolutely within their rights (provided there isn't some contractual language preventing it). Then again I think companies should be able to fire or not hire someone for any reason. Private companies and citizens shouldn't be forced to associate with someone they don't want. The state on the other hand should not be allowed to discriminate against people for reasons such as religion.

I agree with you, the Huffington Post is no fan of freedom of association, and they're huge fucking hypocrites.
post #131 of 5119
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post


As they say, I don't know how he felt in his heart, but did you read his remarks in context?


"The same goes for the comments about segregated-south. He was pointing out that where HE lived and worked side by side with black workers, they were ALL poor together and no one complained. At no time did he say that he thought we should go back to segregation. In fact, he was involved in similar oppression because he was in a SIMILAR situation to many of the oppressed blacks in Louisiana...poor and forced to rely on more well off white farmers. It's not like he was a well-traveled, rich, educated man saying "Yep, those blacks are happy!" He wasn't one of the ones doing the oppressing...he too was at the bottom of the totem pole at the time. If people are going to be angry about something, then they should at least be analytic enough to look at the whole picture and to take in context with what is being said.
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Yeah, I did. I wasn't necessarily saying that it was so awfully terrible that he needed to be labeled a racist and fired for it, but relative to everything else he said it could have been interpreted by the lefties as being the most outrageous. I think they're too afraid to admit or realize that not every white person in the South was out lynching blacks at random, and there were many whites who held the same shitty jobs as blacks. But that wouldn't fit the narrative. At the same time, I wasn't even born during the time period in which he is talking about so I really have no idea what it was like.

 

It's important to note that his whole conversation is actually pretty uplifting. He speaks of unity, love, acceptance, etc. It's unfortunate that some media groups have blown up some of the statements out of context and manufactured a shitstorm to sell copy and/or get clicks.

post #132 of 5119
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I've never watched that show, not 100% sure what happens on it, but I always knew those guys were going to get a media take down at some point for something they said.
post #133 of 5119
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

The Duck Dynasty redneck's comment on black people pre-Civil Rights is much more offensive to me than his rather tame comments about gays.

Of course, I don't give a shit either way as I don't watch redneck reality TV shows. It'd be silly for A&E to do anything based on the views of my demographic.

It's not about offending their viewers, it's about a vocal minority that wants to enforce their point of view and punish anyone who deviates from it.
post #134 of 5119
Piob, I hope you don't mind me posting my own musings here, but this is pretty much the only half-decent active thread in CE right now.

Re: Pajama Boy and all the other #gettalking ads featuring young, white, non-poor uninsured people: It's just amusing on so many levels how they're targeting these people. It sort of gives the lie to a lot of the (fabricated) numbers of uninsured (1 in 5 Americans are too poor to afford insurance ZOMG!) and it amuses me how much they are now relying on these flakey irresponsible retards (the same set who would claim they couldn't "afford" "insurance" until they got some disease (remind me what "insurance" means?)) to pay for the boondoggle.
post #135 of 5119
Thread Starter 
Good post on Pajama Boy. I think Obama&Co were/are very successful in their marketing to that particular demographic. We have witnessed the success in the persons of various posters here that fit nicely into the Pajama Boy demographic.
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