What is your favorite hand gun?

Originally Posted by jett

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Personally I recommend he just buy himself a sword. Even the craziest motherfuckers around will think twice when you draw a sword and out-crazy them. Plus swords are so much more stylish than guns.

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Originally Posted by jett

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Personally I recommend he just buy himself a sword. Even the craziest motherfuckers around will think twice when you draw a sword and out-crazy them. Plus swords are so much more stylish than guns.


BUT..remember the crazy mofo that drew out the scimitar on Indy Jones.....never bring a knife to a gunfight

Couple of random points....

The Army uses Mossbergs for clearing rooms when door breach charges are either out of supply or time is of the essence. The m4 is still the CQC weapon of choice though some teams use mp5s.

A 9mm hollow point corbon round will put down almost anything at close range.

Originally Posted by whnay.

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Couple of random points....

The Army uses Mossbergs for clearing rooms when door breach charges are either out of supply or time is of the essence. The m4 is still the CQC weapon of choice though some teams use mp5s.

A 9mm hollow point corbon round will put down almost anything at close range.

I heard SpecOp was switching to mp6s....

Originally Posted by romafan

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I heard SpecOp was switching to mp6s....

lol

Originally Posted by whnay.

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Couple of random points....

The Army uses Mossbergs for clearing rooms when door breach charges are either out of supply or time is of the essence. The m4 is still the CQC weapon of choice though some teams use mp5s.


True statement, but the Army is also retrofitting some M4s with secondary 12 gauge shotgun firing systems for door to door use (X-28/ X-26 ). They use 00 buck rounds and/or slugs.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh28-e.htm
Edit: I googled and found this, decent info on it near the bottom of the page. Prolly more out there that is more official or in-depth.

Originally Posted by mizanation

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ruger p89.

Beautifull gun, but too heavy for me at 32 oz.

If only I could have German quality in Italian package I would be happy. For now I have to settle for Italian design.
Beretta 9000 is a beautifull gun.

Originally Posted by Get Smart

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maybe it's my imagination, but you almost seem sure to be put in a position where you have to shoot someone in the near future...?

I have to admit.
I want to kill most of the people I come in contact with on Monday before lunch.

Originally Posted by jett

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That's what I always find so disturbing when I see threads like this. The person always comes across as being a bit too eager.

Personally I recommend he just buy himself a sword. Even the craziest motherfuckers around will think twice when you draw a sword and out-crazy them. Plus swords are so much more stylish than guns.

That's what I always find so disturbing when I see responses like this. The person always comes across as being a bit too eager to have a sword fight.

Sorry Jett, I don't swing that way.

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

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Double action is not good for me. Trigger is too long and too stiff. Fire is unaccurate and slow due to stiff trigger.
What do you want if you are shooting a POS? The statements you are making sound really stupid to people who know what they are talking about. If you are too inaccurate with a DA you aren't accurate enough for a defensive situation with anything. The trigger won't be too slow, it's not like you're going to be using bullseye-type trigger control in a defensive situation. Go and shoot a compact Para-Ordnance LDA (Light Double Action, a compact .45) and see about the trigger. Regards, Huntsman

I actually keep a late 19th-century saber under my bed. It's heavy, and a bit rusted, but I think it'd scare the **** out of an intruder.

Originally Posted by Connemara

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I actually keep a late 19th-century saber under my bed. It's heavy, and a bit rusted, but I think it'd scare the **** out of an intruder.

Unless your intruder is armed with an early 20th century saber, then he'd probably laugh at your antique, and chide you for being woefully unprepared. Plus, are you capable of defending yourself with a saber? Somehow I picture you flailing around with it while you do your proud mary routine.

Get a musket.

Originally Posted by Huntsman

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What do you want if you are shooting a POS? The statements you are making sound really stupid to people who know what they are talking about. If you are too inaccurate with a DA you aren't accurate enough for a defensive situation with anything. The trigger won't be too slow, it's not like you're going to be using bullseye-type trigger control in a defensive situation.

Go and shoot a compact Para-Ordnance LDA (Light Double Action, a compact .45) and see about the trigger.

Regards,
Huntsman

I was thinking about that matter. It seems to me that anyone, especially a male with a normal sized hand, should be able to handle the DA pull on a quality factory revolver without much difficulty unless he had some sort of handicap or debilitating condition, in which case he would probably have considerable difficulty racking the slide of any serious auto pistol.

That said, I have know some individuals who were reasonably competent pistol shots shooting with a single-action trigger but would go to pieces badly if they had to shoot a DA firearm--revolver or auto. Probably this is mostly just a lack of familiarity and practice.

Of course, a decent gunsmith can smooth and lighten up the DA action on a factory revolver without too much difficulty.

I like the Para-Ordnance LDA trigger system quite well, but I don't think it is a true double action system since the cocking cam is pre-cocked even though the hammer is in a "rest" position.

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

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If only I could have German quality in Italian package I would be happy. For now I have to settle for Italian design.
Beretta 9000 is a beautifull gun.



I have to admit.
I want to kill most of the people I come in contact with on Monday before lunch.

I hate to break the news to you, but the Beretta 9000 has been discontinued for a couple of years. It was not to my taste aesthetically despite the styling.

I don't know what you mean by "German quality in an Italian package." The best-quality Italian firearms are second to none--certainly equal to or surpassing anything put out in Germany in the post WWII era.

Both countries produce some very high quality guns, and they have produced some not so hot guns in the not too distant past also. If you think German manufacture is a guarantee of quality...well, do any of you fellows remember RG? The joke was that it stood for "Rotten Guns."

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

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I was merely countering the notion, posted by odoreater, that "experts" reccomend shotguns over all else for home defense, which is at best misleading, and at worst, potentially dangerous..

Just for clarification, I didn't say that "experts" recommend shotguns over all else for home defense, I just said that most (read: not all) of the people I've talked to that know guns recommend shotguns over handguns for home defense.

I agree with the statements made earlier that people should go with what they personally feel more comfortable with. As I said, personall I feel more comfortable tearing down intruders with my bare hands - but that's just me.