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post #76 of 100
About twice a year
post #77 of 100
All this chatter about white tie makes me miss the fall very, very much. Not a good feeling to have when summer is in full swing!
post #78 of 100
Ok. I'm thinking about getting a top hat for my white tie rig. Apparently the silk top hats are only available as vintage and cost $$$$, particularly for my hat size. Any thoughts about fur vs silk top hats? Are silks worth the splurge? Do they have residual value?
post #79 of 100
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Ok. I'm thinking about getting a top hat for my white tie rig. Apparently the silk top hats are only available as vintage and cost $$$$, particularly for my hat size. Any thoughts about fur vs silk top hats? Are silks worth the splurge? Do they have residual value?
The silk hat for white tie should be the opera hat (foldable) which is less sought after than the morning attire version, as the silk used is more common.

I do not think that the fur version will look good at all.
post #80 of 100
Apparently Lock doesn't sell foldable top hats. Any suggestions for a source?

Thanks.
post #81 of 100
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Apparently Lock doesn't sell foldable top hats. Any suggestions for a source?

Thanks.

I have come across vintage examples before, not recently, sorry.
post #82 of 100

In this guide to Viennese Balls, pg. 116 (http://issuu.com/ballguide/docs/dc-2012-01-english) states:

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 When it comes to the correct shoes for tailcoats, traditionalists insist on patent leather slip-ons with silk bows.  Patent loafers or oxfords are also totally correct.  In fact, you can't wear tails or tuxedos without them.

 

I wanted to see what you all thought about the part about patent loafers.  Acceptable for white tie?

 

post #83 of 100
The Viennese sure know how to keep this alive!

From the TC Ball.






post #84 of 100
Loving the Wiener Opernball right now.
post #85 of 100
You were there too?







White tie breakfast at the Hotel Sacher

post #86 of 100
God no, how I wish I could be there, but I have neither the dance skills, nor a willing partner, nor the funds. No, I'm watching from the sofa, green with envy.
post #87 of 100
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I just came across the following letter, written to the Royal Opera House management in 1905, which contained the following passage:

(with reference to white tie dress code) ...." I wore the costume imposed on me by the regulations of the house. I fully recognize the advantage of those regulations. Evening dress is cheap, simple, durable, prevents rivalry and extravagance on the part of male leaders of fashion, annihilates class distinctions and gives men who are poor and doubtful of their social position (that is, the great majority of men) a sense of security and satisfaction that no clothes of their own choosing could confer, besides saving a whole sex the trouble of considering what they should wear on state occasions. The objections to it are as dust in the balance in the eyes of the ordinary Briton. These objections are that it is colourless; that it involves a whitening process that makes the shirt troublesome, slightly uncomfortable, and seriously unclean; that it acts as a passport for undesirable persons; that it fails to guarantee sobriety, cleanliness, and order on the part of the wearer; and that it reduces to a formula a very vital human habit which should be the subject of constant experiment and active private enterprise. All such objections are thoroughly un-English. They appeal only to an eccentric few, and may be left out of account with the fantastic objections of men like Ruskin, Tennyson, Carlyle, and Morris to tall hats."

I found the comment about "evening dress" being cheap, particular amusing ...

source: http://www.operavivra.com/blog/dressing-for-the-opera/
post #88 of 100
BTW I found a place I Vienna next to the Opera that sells collapsible top hats!



They even sell capes! Though I resisted the temptation (this time).
post #89 of 100
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BTW I found a place I Vienna next to the Opera that sells collapsible top hats!

And they have a website.
http://www.frack.co.at/e_index.html
post #90 of 100
Inspired by the recent opera mentions in the WAYWT thread, I wanted to give a shout out to Fabio Luisi, who is one of the few conductors who gets white tie right.



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