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Poll Results: MC does SWD

Poll expired: Nov 4, 2013 This is a multiple choice poll
  • 7% (12)
    Holdfast
  • 8% (14)
    UrbanComposition
  • 18% (31)
    NOBD
  • 0% (0)
    luv2breformed
  • 1% (2)
    Orgetorix
  • 14% (25)
    Mr. Moo
  • 2% (4)
    Digmenow
  • 31% (54)
    EFV
  • 8% (15)
    timotune
  • 3% (6)
    Cotton Dockers
  • 0% (1)
    Rick's Tailoring
  • 3% (6)
    Sprezziamo
  • 0% (0)
    kulata
  • 25% (43)
    Kaplan
  • 21% (36)
    in stitches
  • 1% (3)
    Caustic Man
  • 22% (38)
    Pingson
  • 2% (4)
    bourbonbasted
  • 19% (33)
    gdl203
  • 37% (64)
    Tirailleur1
  • 1% (2)
    Kai
  • 13% (23)
    SpooPoker
  • 7% (13)
    Claghorn
  • 1% (2)
    Coxsackie
  • 7% (13)
    FlyingMonkey
171 Total Votes  
post #256 of 431
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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

This is meant to be helpful by the way. I still think there's a gap where MC guys aren't getting the SW&D style. The approach is too formulaic:

Sportscoat -> cardigan, and it fits perfectly / tailored
Dress shirt -> casual shirt, still tucked in
wool pants -> cotton pants, and still hemmed to minimal break
dress shoes -> dress boots, still too shiny


SW&D is doing things differently.... the outerwear has unusual proportions, the sweatshirts/cardigans have unusual fabrics, textures, etc, the shirts are usually tshirts sometimes layered, untucked, and interesting necklines or hemlines, the pants can be tight stacked jeans or loose flowing wool or straight stiff canvass, etc, and the shoes are low or high sneakers, patent or artificially beaten in, pants maybe even tucked into them, etc... It's just a whole different approach.

and yes, I realize that most MC guys don't own a whole lot of this kind of stuff, and no, I'm not trying to make this all seem unapproachable.

I mean I usually post in SWD so I wasn't sure if were to change my aesthetic for this challenge. I don't think any of the fits I posted really fit in MC Casual either. 

post #257 of 431

Thought I might chime in that I've found this whole thread really awesome and interesting. I saw this poll go up earlier in the week and thought I'd check back today and see what was posted. It just took my whole lunch hour to get thru reading everything, which was unexpected. I think all the talk of a cross-over thread is cool and I'm enjoying the looks that are being posted.

 

I'm obviously new to these forums.

I would describe myself as a recovering MC who's discovered my true self is more SW&D.

post #258 of 431
I don't know if it has been brought up, but on the whole I would say there is an average of 10 years of age separating MC and SWD. Maybe more. Many MC guys have to at least wear "business casual" to work, and just bump that to what we see in MC - ties, suits, overcoats, etc. Many SWD guys are still in college, business school, or otherwise employed in creative fields where they can practically wear whatever they want. Thus, flowing from MC to SWD and vice versa is harder than just "trying to do it better" because there may be the underlying issue of a real lack of actual clothing with which to try new things, because MC guys don't need bedfords and low neck tees, and SWD guys don't need suits and Edward Greens.
post #259 of 431
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

This is meant to be helpful by the way. I still think there's a gap where MC guys aren't getting the SW&D style. The approach is too formulaic:

Sportscoat -> cardigan, and it fits perfectly / tailored
Dress shirt -> casual shirt, still tucked in
wool pants -> cotton pants, and still hemmed to minimal break
dress shoes -> dress boots, still too shiny


SW&D is doing things differently.... the outerwear has unusual proportions, the sweatshirts/cardigans have unusual fabrics, textures, etc, the shirts are usually tshirts sometimes layered, untucked, and interesting necklines or hemlines, the pants can be tight stacked jeans or loose flowing wool or straight stiff canvass, etc, and the shoes are low or high sneakers, patent or artificially beaten in, pants maybe even tucked into them, etc... It's just a whole different approach.

and yes, I realize that most MC guys don't own a whole lot of this kind of stuff, and no, I'm not trying to make this all seem unapproachable.

See, this is what I tried to avoid with my fit. I didn't want to have any CM elements and go totally SW&D. I didn't want MC Casual light. Apparently I failed miserably in this attempt lol, but that was the goal.
post #260 of 431
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post


See, this is what I tried to avoid with my fit. I didn't want to have any CM elements and go totally SW&D. I didn't want MC Casual light. Apparently I failed miserably in this attempt lol, but that was the goal.

Trying is what counts. And I encourage you to continue. Please don't see this challenge as a one off thing but a new horizon on your non mc fits. 

post #261 of 431
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

I don't know if it has been brought up, but on the whole I would say there is an average of 10 years of age separating MC and SWD. Maybe more. Many MC guys have to at least wear "business casual" to work, and just bump that to what we see in MC - ties, suits, overcoats, etc. Many SWD guys are still in college, business school, or otherwise employed in creative fields where they can practically wear whatever they want. Thus, flowing from MC to SWD and vice versa is harder than just "trying to do it better" because there may be the underlying issue of a real lack of actual clothing with which to try new things, because MC guys don't need bedfords and low neck tees, and SWD guys don't need suits and Edward Greens.

the age was not brought up, and that is a solid, and by majority rule very true, point.

the actual lack of clothing was brought up, and i think aside from the guys who are true cross posters, its also very true.
post #262 of 431
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post


the age was not brought up, and that is a solid, and by majority rule very true, point.

the actual lack of clothing was brought up, and i think aside from the guys who are true cross posters, its also very true.

I am curious as to who we consider true cross posters

post #263 of 431
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tirailleur1 View Post

I am curious as to who we consider true cross posters

Parker
MoK
GDL
You
post #264 of 431
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

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I don't know if it has been brought up, but on the whole I would say there is an average of 10 years of age separating MC and SWD. Maybe more. Many MC guys have to at least wear "business casual" to work, and just bump that to what we see in MC - ties, suits, overcoats, etc. Many SWD guys are still in college, business school, or otherwise employed in creative fields where they can practically wear whatever they want. Thus, flowing from MC to SWD and vice versa is harder than just "trying to do it better" because there may be the underlying issue of a real lack of actual clothing with which to try new things, because MC guys don't need bedfords and low neck tees, and SWD guys don't need suits and Edward Greens.

very true
post #265 of 431
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post


Parker
MoK
GDL
You

Moo you are also condiered 

 

same as Stictches

 

 

I asked because I couldn't think of any cross posters that started off on SWD side. 

 

 

curious as to why that is the case. 

post #266 of 431

It also kinds of brings your theory of age into question since it would only be logical that many of them would jump to the cm side once graduating from college and finding jobs that required suiting. 

post #267 of 431
There are a quickly decreasing number of jobs that require suiting of any kind. Law, banking, insurance come to mind as areas of the workforce that still require dressing in business attire (not business casual). Many industries that are quickly growing, such as the tech sector, scoff at suiting. I have been asked by clients on a number of occasions to dress down when visiting their office, as people in suits make their employees nervous. I have been glared at more than once, with whispers of "who is that... what are they doing here" heard as I pass by employees' desks in a simple dark suit, on my way to the office of the CEO, dressed in a t-shirt and shorts. Go figure.
post #268 of 431
Thats because they see people in suits as a 1950s boss who scoffs at everyone and doesnt really care about employees.

Being from the tech sector, the boss/ employee barrier is low, not like it was in my past jobs outside tech. In tech, things are very open and many times a boss is a mentor as well. Hence, everyone tries to dress simply. Also, the respect come from what you know not how you look. Example: every software engineer. The way most those guys dress is eek.gif
post #269 of 431
Thread Starter 
What Moo said. In some work places dressing down is even considered a sign of power. Nobody tells you what you can and can not wear.

I'll still wear them suits and jackets though, that's my comfort zone.
post #270 of 431
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Originally Posted by Tirailleur1 View Post

It also kinds of brings your theory of age into question since it would only be logical that many of them would jump to the cm side once graduating from college and finding jobs that required suiting. 

I think part of Moo's thoughts are the fact that he and I are in a bubble which is CA. We tend to forget that other areas still have the strict suit and tie workplaces. The bay area is very casual and has been for a long time now. Hence, its hard to think of being a banker in a non densely populated area of America.
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