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He was great as Andy Warhol in Schnabel's Basquiat. The ne plus ultra of pop icons.

 


Edited by accordion - 1/11/16 at 7:30pm
post #557 of 657
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Over the Garden Wall, what a wonderful work of art


Easily one of the best things I've watched this past year, if you have 2 hours free I doubt there are many better things you could do instead of watching through this

watched this yesterday, it was amazing!
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The Revenant was goddamn underwhelming and contrived. Feels like it kinda blew its wad in the first half hour with the intro and the bear sequence (crazy) and then it's platauing up to the end, for two hours... Shame because the cinematography is often freaking breathtaking and I gotta say it does an awesome job at making the freezing conditions almost palpable to the audience. Would've liked a pure contemplative survival or a balls to the wall revenge flick but this weirdly balanced mix of the two falls short of both.

And corny flash back/dream sequences should be categorically forbidden, it's lazy and it never works.
post #559 of 657
I liked it a lot, though I agree it was a bit underwhelming. The flashback/dream sequences were definitely boring and awful, and I agree with the odd mix of survival and revenge.

Outside of that, I think it did an excellent job of making you feel like Leo-- frozen and alone. Loved the lengthy scenes with little dialogue and you're right, the cinematography was breathtaking. But I thought the plateaued and anticlimactic ending was pretty good. It's dissatisfying, but I think Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the whole line from Hardy at the very end "it won't bring your boy back" really hits home. To me, it was unsatisfying but in a satisfying way for the story, if that makes sense.

Felt like I was watching a Terence Malick movie a lot of the times. And felt like Valhalla Rising, too. I definitely agree that he should've pushed the edge with it, it's like almost there but then certain scenes just kinda jar you back into "blah blah action movie".
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Agreed, and, basically, remove the dream sequences, remove the Arikara indians, or alternatively flesh them out (they seemed like the ultimate plot-device here, periodically popping up to move things along, almost literally at the end), keep grunting wheezing Leo all alone against the elements, let the cinematography do its job, and keep the anticlimactic ending and I think you have a much more solid and tighter end result. It's not like I didn't enjoy it as it is though but yeah I think there's a better film in that film.

Lubezki is also Malick's cinematographer since The New World so it makes sense. I think I enjoyed his work here more actually. I watched the extended cut of The New World a while ago and found myself wanting to bail half way through (but the ending...). Still haven't seen his most recent stuff, and I used to be a Malick fanatic...
post #561 of 657
Yeah, I definitely agree with you. It could've been a much tighter film and definitely feels like a missed opportunity at times.

I should've known it was Lubezki again, so many shots looked like Tree of Life.

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Haven't been watching many movies lately, so if ya'll have recommendations for some good recent-ish stuff, that'd be great. I'm down for anything.

I watched The Hateful Eight in 70mm a while back. 70mm was cool, hard to tell any difference from digital projection if you saw it in a megaplex mall theater like I did, but I really enjoyed the experience and felt it worth the extra money. The program, overture, intermission-- it all just made the shitty movie experience fun, and I enjoyed that.

The movie itself was kinda raggedy. The first act was absolutely fuckin' amazing, real old school spaghetti western with some great cinematography. Super fun typical Tarantino humor interspersed with serious story telling. Second act was kind of a mess and typical Tarantino, but was "fun" in the Tarantino way, I guess. I really disliked Django, enjoyed Inglorious Basterds, and I enjoyed this one since I've got a soft spot for westerns.

Still think his stuff is getting more and more predictable and he's ramming politics and race relations down your throat now. Would like some nuance back from him, but honestly, don't think he's gonna top the samurai/kung fu/western masterpiece of Kill Bill.
post #562 of 657
I watched Marshland recently - pretty enjoyable, really nice cinematography with some great aerial shots.

It's basically a Spanish True Detective (season 1) - so if you need another fix of that I'd recommend watching.
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In case anyone missed my last post about it, I just want to once again let everyone know that Leviathan Wakes aka SFs favorite book of 2015 is available as a tv-series.

Six episodes out so far and each one of them has been pretty fantastic

It has also recently been renewed for a second season :slayer:


Edited by kindofyoung - 1/13/16 at 3:05pm
post #564 of 657

ugh it's like so bad though

post #565 of 657
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ugh it's like so bad though

First you sell all your shoes and now this

 

You truly are going mad

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Nah but I'd be interested to hear why you think that, like ok if you don't think it's as great as I do but to say it's bad, really?

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I dunno. It's bad but I guess I'm still watching it. I have no big thoughts for you, but I'm really not in love with the main cast (no subtlety there), and so far I mostly don't like the way they've shot it. They go out of the way to draw attention to their clunky zero-g effects that it's hard stop noticing. I'll watch the 2 I haven't seen pretty soon, an maybe I'll change my tune. My only thought so far is "typical mediocre book adaptation." I get that sci-fi doesn't have an unlimited budget, but I dunno man. The cheesiness in the books is endearing - don't find that the case so far with the show.

 

Just re-read the first 4 books and remembered how much I love them, though. Damn. 

post #567 of 657
i haven't read the books, but the way they're developing the plot just seems predictably boring here. and each episode ends with the overly dramatic setup for next week like cartoons back in the day. the acting is also bad, not jessica chastain bad, but almost like i'm watching a parody of a sci fi movie.
post #568 of 657

yeah, that. Too many Meaningful Stares and Quivering Lips and Edges of Seats

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I dunno. It's bad but I guess I'm still watching it. I have no big thoughts for you, but I'm really not in love with the main cast (no subtlety there), and so far I mostly don't like the way they've shot it. They go out of the way to draw attention to their clunky zero-g effects that it's hard stop noticing. I'll watch the 2 I haven't seen pretty soon, an maybe I'll change my tune. My only thought so far is "typical mediocre book adaptation." I get that sci-fi doesn't have an unlimited budget, but I dunno man. The cheesiness in the books is endearing - don't find that the case so far with the show.

 

Just re-read the first 4 books and remembered how much I love them, though. Damn. 

 

Fair enough, you're right about the cheesiness, but I do feel like it's harder to convey that feeling properly through film/tv than books.

Other than that I'm also a fan of that they kept the slang intact and I like most of the actors (especially Chrisjen) but they have definitely been a bit slow about showing Holdens "good" side (there's luckily some more of that in the latest 2 episodes)

 

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i haven't read the books, but the way they're developing the plot just seems predictably boring here. and each episode ends with the overly dramatic setup for next week like cartoons back in the day. the acting is also bad, not jessica chastain bad, but almost like i'm watching a parody of a sci fi movie.
 

This may be me remembering incorrectly, but there's so much that happens in the books that you're bound to end some episodes with setups for the next one

(which is also the reason I basically read through the book in one whole go).

 

 

I should probably read the books again.

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I'm still watching but I feel like it's becoming more generic with each new episode even though you know some serious shit is building up. Haven't read the books but what I enjoy the most so far are all peripheral world building aspects, the background stuff that's not explained but shown (the tech, the mining stuff in the last ep,, the slingshot club thing etc). But the closer you get to the main narrative the more uninspired the treatment gets.
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