3 piece MTM Suit for my wedding day. Zegna or Tom Ford

Only 110 · Oct 23, 2013

Thanks a lot for all your inputs. This is definitely very hopeful. I have been buying a lot of casual wears and don't really know too much about formal wears. To be honest, I havent even heard some of the brands mentioned above and will definitely take a look at them. Are there any places where I can find Belvest, Isaia, and Corneliani here in Toronto?

RogerP · Oct 23, 2013

Corneliani you can find at Tom's Place in Kensington Market. Be sure the to check out the D'Avenza suits if you go there.

Viral · Oct 23, 2013

Only 110 said:
Thanks a lot for all your inputs. This is definitely very hopeful. I have been buying a lot of casual wears and don't really know too much about formal wears. To be honest, I havent even heard some of the brands mentioned above and will definitely take a look at them. Are there any places where I can find Belvest, Isaia, and Corneliani here in Toronto?

Since time is on your side, I highly suggest you make a weekend trip to NYC in the next 2 months. Many sales will start soon and you have any and every brand and MTM option all in the same locale.

An afternoon at Bergdorf will set you straight......they have one the best Zegna boutiques in the US.

At night - you party hard :slayer:

jeff13007 · Oct 24, 2013

Only 110 said:
I just called a sales person at Harry Rosen and she confirmed that Tom Ford never stock 38 short. I guess Tom Ford is out. I need to look more Zegna now. Any other brands that are good for a formal suit? My budget would be anything up to maybe 5k.

Im pretty sure they do stock 38 short. It might be called like (48T) or something i dont think they use the "s" designation but i cant really remember right now. 10k is a bit excessive even for TF, what fabric did you choose? When i did mine in october of 2011 it came out to 6k, its usually a 20 percent mark up for MTM i.e if you like the fabric of one of the floor models and that model costs 5k then to get it MTM would be 6k. MTO would be a 10% mark up if i remember correctly. The grey 3 piece suit that has become the "signature" look of TF starts at 4.2k so even if you do MTM or MTO in that it still fits your budget unless you want it in like cashmere or some super 5million wool

rbarthel · Oct 24, 2013

Looks like there is a Samuelsohn trunk show at Channer's in Waterloo, Ontario today through the 27th. http://samuelsohn.com/trunk_shows.php

If I were you I'd head down there and see what they can do for you. Generally you get a 10-15% off their already pretty reasonable MTM prices at their trunk shows. I had a very good experience with Samuelsohn's MTM and while the brand name isn't as glamourous as Zegna or Tom Ford you can take the $3k of your budget left and buy some awesome Edward Greens, and maybe a second-hand Omega (I'm not a watch guy, I'm sure there are some much better choices at $1.5-2k) to cap off your outfit.

Only 110 · Oct 24, 2013

Waterloo is actually where I live. I will definitely go check it out maybe tonight.

In terms of TF fabric, I chose OR1953. It is 85% wool and 15% silk. I think I must have selected a very high end one.

Only 110 · Oct 24, 2013

Yes, I thought about go to New York. But I will probably have to go there at least twice (order and pick up). Two trips to New York may not seem that bad tho since I personally love New York. I will consider for sure.

Only 110 · Oct 28, 2013

Thank you for all of your inputs. I went to Harry Rosen and Holts during the weekend, and tried on suits from many brands. At the end, I still like Tom Ford and Zegna better than other brands. They fit me well, I like their styles and fabrics better than a lot of other brands.

After that, I have been wondering maybe I should get a besopke suit. I have been looking around on the forum, I would love to get a MTM or bespoke suit from tailors like Dave Reeves, but unfortunately they are all located in the US. Information regarding good tailors in Toronto is very limited, I was wondering if some of the Toronto members could give me a few suggestions on Toronto based custom suit tailors. I personally really liked Daniel Craig's suits in Skyfall and Mark Gatiss's (played Mycroft Holmes) suits in BBC show Sherlock Holmes, and hoping maybe to get a similar sharp looking suit made by a tailor. Thanks in advance.

AriGold · Oct 28, 2013

Dont spend so much money on a suit - you'll look the same anyway, and the wedding day isn't even that important!

smoothmoose · Oct 28, 2013

Is this your first "real" suit? As others have suggested, if you are looking for something for your wedding and formal occasion a tuxedo is a better choice. If you are specifically referring to the James Bond Skyfall, midnight blue tuxedo, that's a good choice and is made by Tom Ford.

Money may not be an object, but spending $5k on suit/tuxedo is significant and you should consider how much you will actually wear it over the next 5 years and consider if you won't wear it much, how likely is your body going to change during that time? You can definitely do quite well even in the $1-2k range.

As for tailor options in Toronto, there are a few, though I don't have any direct experiences as I usually buy online MTM or via tailors in Asia I've worked with.

- Trend Custom Tailors
- Garrison Bespoke
- Spiros
- GotStyle MTM
- Xavier Tailor (CTM only)

Frankie22 · Oct 28, 2013

Only 110 said:
I have been shopping around for a 3 pieces suit for my wedding day in July next year. I really like the Tom Ford style with large peak lapel. So I went to a store inquiring about it, the sales lady informed me that I will have to go with MTM as Tom Ford doesnt stock 38 short jacket which is my size. I then selected a fabric and style (regency slim cut), and she came back with a price of around 10k. This is out of my price range, I definitely dont want to pay that much. After that, she told me maybe I can consider Zegna as Tom Ford has outsourced a lot of their suit making business to Zegna and Zegna can offer similar style plus fabric with much cheaper price (around 2.5k to 4k).

I was wondering if any of you know much about Zegna MTM. Is this worth it? Does Tom Ford stock 38 short? I tried one Tom Ford 38 short "display only" jacket and it fits me very well already. I want to get a sharp suit not only an one time deal for my wedding day but something I can also wear for formal events after that. Do you have some suggestions on colour beside black? I will wear 3 outfits on my wedding and I already got a black outfit settled.

Thanks in advance.

If you want a wide peaked lapel, ford is the only RTW that offers this. 10k is way to much for TF. Take a look at Ralph Lauren black label, they have several single and double breasted peak lapel offerings. Aggressive fit, high armhole, Italian. Lapels are skinnier but its still a peak on some models. Can be had on deal and theMTM is in your range. Generally made for smaller or lean guys..... Or just go bespoke.

As for a second outfit, why not a navy tux with a black shawl collar? You could do a cool dinner jacket as well.

RogerP said:
Personally, I'd save a bundle over Zegna and go with Samuelsohn MTM. At a $2k price point you would be getting absolutely killer fabric.

If he's looking for a wide peaked lapel and or aggressive TF type look Sammy is prob not the move. I had two jackets done by them in their Geneva cut which is supposed to be their most modern cut and its not even close to an aggressive fit.

brokencycle · Oct 28, 2013

Don't go bespoke. From the sound of it, you don't wear suits regularly or have a lot of suit knowledge. Going bespoke is a bad idea in this scenario.

Only 110 · Oct 28, 2013

brokencycle said:
Don't go bespoke. From the sound of it, you don't wear suits regularly or have a lot of suit knowledge. Going bespoke is a bad idea in this scenario.

Can you elaborate more on why this is a bad idea? Will they not make what I want/like? How could bespoke be worse than say MTM or OTR? Thanks.

brokencycle · Oct 28, 2013

Only 110 said:
Can you elaborate more on why this is a bad idea? Will they not make what I want/like? How could bespoke be worse than say MTM or OTR? Thanks.

This is a topic that has come up numerous times on the forum, but generally speaking, new suit buyers aren't happy with the outcome. I doubt you truly know what you want/can effecitvely articulate it to a tailor. Simply going to a tailor and saying "make a suit like Tom Ford" probably won't have great results.

I have just started getting into made to measure, and even using rtw suits that I like as a model, haven't resulted as nicely as I would like. Some of that is my fault, some of it the tailor's.

If you like Zegna, get a Zegna suit for $2-3k, and be done with it.

Also, you haven't elaborated. Is this a very formal wedding? What time of day?

Quarks · Oct 29, 2013

Tom Ford size 48 short = 48C

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