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3 piece MTM Suit for my wedding day. Zegna or Tom Ford

post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 
I have been shopping around for a 3 pieces suit for my wedding day in July next year. I really like the Tom Ford style with large peak lapel. So I went to a store inquiring about it, the sales lady informed me that I will have to go with MTM as Tom Ford doesnt stock 38 short jacket which is my size. I then selected a fabric and style (regency slim cut), and she came back with a price of around 10k. This is out of my price range, I definitely dont want to pay that much. After that, she told me maybe I can consider Zegna as Tom Ford has outsourced a lot of their suit making business to Zegna and Zegna can offer similar style plus fabric with much cheaper price (around 2.5k to 4k).

I was wondering if any of you know much about Zegna MTM. Is this worth it? Does Tom Ford stock 38 short? I tried one Tom Ford 38 short "display only" jacket and it fits me very well already. I want to get a sharp suit not only an one time deal for my wedding day but something I can also wear for formal events after that. Do you have some suggestions on colour beside black? I will wear 3 outfits on my wedding and I already got a black outfit settled.

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 43
I can't speak to Zegna vs Tom Ford, but as for color. I think charcoal or navy are your best bets. If it outdoors or warmer out you could consider a medium or light grey too.
post #3 of 43
10,000 $s......

Where are you located?
post #4 of 43
It's true that Zegna makes TF, but not true IMHO that you'll get anything like TF by getting a MTM Zegna. But go to the Zegna store and try on their stuff, you'll see what their jackets are like and if you like the style.
post #5 of 43
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Originally Posted by Only 110 View Post

So I went to a store inquiring about it, the sales lady informed me that I will have to go with MTM as Tom Ford doesnt stock 38 short jacket which is my size.

You don't need to go MTM for this. Their tailor should be able to shorten the jacket. They did for me with my rtw TFs.
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I then selected a fabric and style (regency slim cut), and she came back with a price of around 10k. This is out of my price range, I definitely dont want to pay that much. After that, she told me maybe I can consider Zegna as Tom Ford has outsourced a lot of their suit making business to Zegna and Zegna can offer similar style plus fabric with much cheaper price (around 2.5k to 4k).

I don't think Zegna MTM is 2.5k-4k. That's how much their rtw Couture line (who constructs the TF suits) already costs. TF rtw will be about a few hundred more to a grand on average.
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I want to get a sharp suit not only an one time deal for my wedding day but something I can also wear for formal events after that. Do you have some suggestions on colour beside black? I will wear 3 outfits on my wedding and I already got a black outfit settled.

If you mean "formal" as in true "formal" you want a tuxedo, I think. Otherwise, navy or charcoal will be fine and will look great for evenings.
post #6 of 43
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You don't need to go MTM for this. Their tailor should be able to shorten the jacket. They did for me with my rtw TFs.

I'd be careful doing this. Shortening the jacket means altering the relationship between the buttoning point and pockets and the hem of the jacket. Particularly for TF, which generally has very large pocket flaps, this may result in proportions that look really off. You don't want to spend $6k or whatever TF RTW costs and end up with a jacket that looks like it's had the bottom inch or two hacked off.
post #7 of 43
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I'd be careful doing this. Shortening the jacket means altering the relationship between the buttoning point and pockets and the hem of the jacket. Particularly for TF, which generally has very large pocket flaps, this may result in proportions that look really off. You don't want to spend $6k or whatever TF RTW costs and end up with a jacket that looks like it's had the bottom inch or two hacked off.

Agreed. Shortening seems like a bad idea.

Why don't you tell us a budget and where you're located and people can probably give you more recommendations.

Also, I would be hesitant to do the big Tom Ford lapels for a wedding because I think the trend will fade at some point, and you'll look back at the wedding pictures like people look at 70's wedding pictures.

Then again, most marriages end in divorce, so it might be irrelevant.
post #8 of 43
Thread Starter 
I live in Toronto area. I have also called Neiman in Detroit area and they gave me a similar close to 10k quote. I didnt find a Zegna store in Toronto. I will look more see if I can try some Zegna jackets.
post #9 of 43
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I live in Toronto area. I have also called Neiman in Detroit area and they gave me a similar close to 10k quote. I didnt find a Zegna store in Toronto. I will look more see if I can try some Zegna jackets.

Harry Rosen at Bloor/Bay location has Tom Ford, Ermenegildo Zegna, and Zegna Couture.
post #10 of 43
Thread Starter 
I just called a sales person at Harry Rosen and she confirmed that Tom Ford never stock 38 short. I guess Tom Ford is out. I need to look more Zegna now. Any other brands that are good for a formal suit? My budget would be anything up to maybe 5k.
post #11 of 43

Personally,  I'd save a bundle over Zegna and go with Samuelsohn MTM. At a $2k price point you would be getting absolutely killer fabric.

post #12 of 43

Excuse me butting in here as I am not a senior member, but i do know quite a bit about RTW brands. A price range of 5k will get you far. Some other brands to consider would be Belvest (carried at Neiman), Isaia (carried at Neiman, some are more than 5k but you can find them on sale), Canali, and Corneliani. I also agree that if you are wanting a formal outfit, a tuxedo is best. For a suit, navy or charcoal are timeless and perfectly acceptable for almost any "dressy" event, bar Black Tie. Congrats, by the way!

post #13 of 43
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Personally,  I'd save a bundle over Zegna and go with Samuelsohn MTM. At a $2k price point you would be getting absolutely killer fabric.

+1 That's another great option.

post #14 of 43
Samuelsohn is a good suggestion. Really you should just go to Harry Rosen and whatever other nice stores you've got in your area and try a bunch of suits on, without looking at the price tags, see what you like best, and then look at the prices and make your decision. You're going to be spending a lot of money on the suit, and it's for an important occasion, so it's worth taking a couple of afternoons and making sure you get something you really like.

Be wary of salespeople that encourage you to buy something that will need significant alterations, and those that don't know important information about each suit. If you like something from a brand you've never heard of and want to know if it's fully canvassed or something like that, you can always come back to SF and ask. But just starting off with "what brand should I buy" will probably not get you much closer to the suit that you'll enjoy the most.
post #15 of 43

By all means go to Harry's, but also check out Robert Jones Menswear.  I have done a number of Samuelsohn MTMs through them and they know what they are doing.  Also, the turnaround time is pretty good - around 4-5 weeks right now.  This will slow down a bit in the aftermath of the usual January fabric sale, but still something that you could get done in plenty of time for your wedding.  They also offer Pal Zileri MTM (don't know about the turnaround there) and Kiton MTM.

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