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post #8911 of 10340
Yes! The rattle on the CPO was very jarring. Probably the biggest drawback to the whole thing. I have gotten over it though, it's not noticeable to me in a real-world setting with ambient outside noise. It does quiet up completely when snapped. The other drawback is no button or snap on the sleeve placket. I still really like my CPO despite these two design flaws; it's a great lightweight jacket for mild weather.
post #8912 of 10340
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post
 

Did anyone else get one of the wool CPOs with the matte black snaps?

 

I recently returned a herringbone CPO in large part because the snaps rattled.  A lot.  Take a step or move and I could hear them all rattle, whether they are snapped or unsnapped.  The top piece appears to crimp onto the bottom piece in such a way that they are connected but loosely so there is movement between them.  They shake like 20 little rattles! haha

 

Anyone else have these items who can comment on if their snaps are solid and quiet or jiggly and rattle?

 

Wondering if this is a huge widespread design defect, a manufacturing error on my particular CPO, or if I'm just unusually picky?


This was the first [possibly unfavorable] thing i noticed about my CPO. It is definitely something I never expected or experienced before. I got used to it pretty quickly and doesn't bother me at all at this point. That might be do to the fact that the multi-color wool is so cool that it outweighs anything negative about the jacket. Im not sure if its a defect considering I've seen it mentioned before on here. If it bothers you then you did the right thing and I'm sure another cool jacket will come along that will fill the void.   

 

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Originally Posted by TrojanGarb View Post

Yes! The rattle on the CPO was very jarring. Probably the biggest drawback to the whole thing. I have gotten over it though, it's not noticeable to me in a real-world setting with ambient outside noise. It does quiet up completely when snapped. The other drawback is no button or snap on the sleeve placket. I still really like my CPO despite these two design flaws; it's a great lightweight jacket for mild weather.

That is odd as mine has a button. Was that part of an older design or did they forget to put a button on it?

post #8913 of 10340
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Originally Posted by KPDarb View Post
 


This was the first [possibly unfavorable] thing i noticed about my CPO. It is definitely something I never expected or experienced before. I got used to it pretty quickly and doesn't bother me at all at this point. That might be do to the fact that the multi-color wool is so cool that it outweighs anything negative about the jacket. Im not sure if its a defect considering I've seen it mentioned before on here. If it bothers you then you did the right thing and I'm sure another cool jacket will come along that will fill the void.   

That is odd as mine has a button. Was that part of an older design or did they forget to put a button on it?

 

I did also notice that the cuff gaped open in an awkward way.  I don't have it anymore to look again but what I remember is that it had one snap at the end of the split but perhaps needed a second snap to keep the split from gaping.  I definitely remember the gap catching my eye as a negative when I was trying it on.

 

Its an expensive item at ~$200 so I had high expectations for it.  It needs to be pretty awesome at that price point and without any annoying flaws.  The design suffers from "prototype features" that should have been quickly evident when the first samples were received, and then fixed before making hundreds of units for customers.  For example, the world is filled with snaps that do not rattle so there's no reason to use one that does rattle, because its obviously not a positive feature and will be a deal breaker for some customers.

post #8914 of 10340
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Originally Posted by zissou View Post

How much stretch to you guys get out of your canvas chinos? I sized the Cone indigo canvas chinos slightly small like I do my jeans, expecting a good amount of stretch. So, they are fairly snug. I'm just trying to decide if I should give them a try, or sell them and wait until I can order them in a size larger.

 

Since they are prewashed I don't think you will get much stretch out of them. I've worn mine twice (the tailor screwed up my hem) but they didn't stretch at all.

 

That said, my 36 regular chinos fit like my 37 regular denims

post #8915 of 10340

One thing Gustin occasionally does that is a bit frustrating is staggering similar releases without giving you advance notice of what's to come.  This happens in all areas but for now I'm mostly interested in the new pine oil washed T shirt.  Looks like a cool release and I like the color pine.  I want to back it.  But I'd prefer it in V-neck form.  I know its only a few bucks but I don't wanna back and cancel etc if they're gonna just release a v neck in 2 weeks.  Minor issue, I'm aware.  I'll probably back it and end up canceling, oh well.  I really should just have an order cancellation email template specifically for Gustin. 

post #8916 of 10340
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Originally Posted by Medoc View Post
 

One thing Gustin occasionally does that is a bit frustrating is staggering similar releases without giving you advance notice of what's to come.  This happens in all areas but for now I'm mostly interested in the new pine oil washed T shirt.  Looks like a cool release and I like the color pine.  I want to back it.  But I'd prefer it in V-neck form.  I know its only a few bucks but I don't wanna back and cancel etc if they're gonna just release a v neck in 2 weeks.  Minor issue, I'm aware.  I'll probably back it and end up canceling, oh well.  I really should just have an order cancellation email template specifically for Gustin. 

 

I'm with you on the pine being awesome looking.  I've been asking Gustin for some nice multi-tone colored tees (heathered, etc) that were still 100% cotton because I have quite a few of these from other companies and they are my favorites.  Previously Gustin said the cost of creating multi-tone in 100% cotton was too high for their price point so all their multi-tones were synthetic blends.

 

The pine is the first example of a 100% cotton multi-tone.  Yay!  Good work Gustin.

 

I don't love the way the dye looks at the seams, that could be a big downside of this process, but I backed it anyway because I love the rest of it.

 

I've gone through exactly the same thing on the crew vs v-neck, ie ordering, regretting, cancelling and reordering the other version etc.  I suggest a different solution to the problem.  I think its inherent in the Gustin model that we can't have a forecast of all the future items so we cannot plan our purchases today based on what might be released tomorrow.  The uncertainty about if/when items will be posted or reposted is fundamental to the unique nature of the Gustin business model.  Part of the adventure!

 

But there's a better way.  Just like the jeans and button up shirts have a classic and slim option to select in the sizing options, the t-shirts should have crew and v neck.  Its a minor pattern difference between the two, less different than the different cut options on shirts and pants.  So simply have the pull down menu list S, M, L, XL crew neck, and S, M, L, XL v neck.

 

That would be a great option.


Edited by mountainman3520 - 4/8/16 at 2:03pm
post #8917 of 10340
Maiden voyage for Japan Olive chino. Really liking this fabric. My third G chino so far. The classic chino cut really suits my frame better than their denim fits.

post #8918 of 10340
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

Did anyone else get one of the wool CPOs with the matte black snaps?

I recently returned a herringbone CPO in large part because the snaps rattled.  A lot.  Take a step or move and I could hear them all rattle, whether they are snapped or unsnapped.  The top piece appears to crimp onto the bottom piece in such a way that they are connected but loosely so there is movement between them.  They shake like 20 little rattles! haha

Anyone else have these items who can comment on if their snaps are solid and quiet or jiggly and rattle?

Wondering if this is a huge widespread design defect, a manufacturing error on my particular CPO, or if I'm just unusually picky?

I have that exact CPO and no issue with rattling.
post #8919 of 10340

I'd like to share some initial data I have on shrinkage of Gustin raw denim jeans.  I've ordered a silly number of Gustin jeans (~30) starting 1-2 years ago and I've been cycling through them since that time.  Because I ordered so many and rotated often, I didn't get around to washing them for the first time until now.  I measured them all before wash or wear and I am measuring them again after.  Yes, I have a big spreadsheet of this data.  :)

 

Anyway, as a first example, I have a pair of Gustin #7 "The Regular" in 33 slim.  Before wash or wear the inseam measured at 34.75" vs. my standard length of 32" so I had them double fold cuffed during the first round of wears.

 

I washed them on cold gentle in a front loading washing machine with light detergent and then air dried, hanging over a banister rail.  This is my normal process for better or worse.  I'm not willing to wash my clothing by hand in the bathtub but I am willing to air dry.

 

After this process, the new inseam measurement is 32.75" so I've now got them single fold cuffed but could wear them uncuffed if I wanted some stacking.  No way could have worn them uncuffed and stacked before washing.

 

The inseam shrunk 2" in the first wash, even on cold and without machine dry.  Not sure how much more they may shrink in subsequent washes, hopefully very little.

 

This example shows the critically of washing before hemming.  2" is a lot.  And I expect that amount to vary across the many types of denim fabric so its probably unpredictable.  I'm definitely going to wait to hem any of these jeans until I've washed them a few times and I have data that shows they have stopped shrinking, ie the inseam remains the same through a few washes.

post #8920 of 10340
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post


I have that exact CPO and no issue with rattling.

 

Is it that you don't notice the rattle or it doesn't bother you, but is present?

 

Or can you shake your CPO in a quiet room and the snaps do not rattle?

 

If its the former, then that's just a personal preference thing.

 

If its the later, then there is a defect on some of the CPOs ie the snaps are not crimped correctly.

post #8921 of 10340
My CPO rattles, a lot. I suspect I will grow used to it, but I'm not exactly pleased.
post #8922 of 10340
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

Is it that you don't notice the rattle or it doesn't bother you, but is present?

Or can you shake your CPO in a quiet room and the snaps do not rattle?

If its the former, then that's just a personal preference thing.

If its the later, then there is a defect on some of the CPOs ie the snaps are not crimped correctly.

Zero rattle. Snaps are tight.
post #8923 of 10340
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Originally Posted by SeaJen View Post

My CPO rattles, a lot. I suspect I will grow used to it, but I'm not exactly pleased.

 

I don't think you should put up with an obvious defect that bothers you on a $200 shirt.  You would be better off with a $400 version that doesn't bother you.  Gustin must deliver equivalently awesome products at a lower price to compensate for the model of pre-paying sight/fit untested, then waiting 3+ months.  The products cannot be inferior or the value prop is negative.

 

Ask them to replace with fixed snaps or get a credit and buy something else.  If everyone did this, I guarantee the next CPO they make would have the snaps fixed.  They are being lazy about it because most people are deciding to live with it and try to get used to the defect.

post #8924 of 10340
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

 

But there's a better way.  Just like the jeans and button up shirts have a classic and slim option to select in the sizing options, the t-shirts should have crew and v neck.  Its a minor pattern difference between the two, less different than the different cut options on shirts and pants.  So simply have the pull down menu list S, M, L, XL crew neck, and S, M, L, XL v neck.

 

That would be a great option.

Perfect solution.  Really down for that.

post #8925 of 10340
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post
 

 

I'm with you on the pine being awesome looking.  I've been asking Gustin for some nice multi-tone colored tees (heathered, etc) that were still 100% cotton because I have quite a few of these from other companies and they are my favorites.  Previously Gustin said the cost of creating multi-tone in 100% cotton was too high for their price point so all their multi-tones were synthetic blends.

 

The pine is the first example of a 100% cotton multi-tone.  Yay!  Good work Gustin.

 

I don't love the way the dye looks at the seams, that could be a big downside of this process, but I backed it anyway because I love the rest of it.

 

I've gone through exactly the same thing on the crew vs v-neck, ie ordering, regretting, cancelling and reordering the other version etc.  I suggest a different solution to the problem.  I think its inherent in the Gustin model that we can't have a forecast of all the future items so we cannot plan our purchases today based on what might be released tomorrow.  The uncertainty about if/when items will be posted or reposted is fundamental to the unique nature of the Gustin business model.  Part of the adventure!

 

But there's a better way.  Just like the jeans and button up shirts have a classic and slim option to select in the sizing options, the t-shirts should have crew and v neck.  Its a minor pattern difference between the two, less different than the different cut options on shirts and pants.  So simply have the pull down menu list S, M, L, XL crew neck, and S, M, L, XL v neck.

 

That would be a great option.



If they do that, for the love of god I hope they do the same thing for button-down vs. non-button down collar. Such a shame that's not an option two years into the shirt offerings.

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