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Could you advice on the issue? For those of us who might order in the future?

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How do those of you guys that hem your denim go about doing so? Do you soak it first to get any shrink out o the way or just go right to the tailor? 
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Unless you account for shrinkage. Going right to the tailor is a rookie mistake.
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I do a very warm / hot soak for about 70 minutes (turning the pants inside out).  Not sure where I got that number from but it feels right.  Since I will only be washing in cold water and hang drying from then on, that initial soak more than accounts for any future shrinkage.  After that, I can hem with confidence knowing the length will stay the same.   

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I received my black low sneakers Friday and was concerned some time after I ordered because. Saw some of the issues posted on here

However mine seem to be perfectly fine and seem well worth what I paid...I just didn't want to pony up and pay the price for the all black low cp's and didn't see any good alternatives until Gustin started making sneakers




Edited by Crump's Brother - 4/3/16 at 12:42pm
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How do those of you guys that hem your denim go about doing so? Do you soak it first to get any shrink out o the way or just go right to the tailor? 

I do a warm/hot soak as well, but i'll only do it for 30-40 since the water usually cools off by then. I also do a soak to get the starch out. Removing the starch will prolong the life of your jeans and will make them less stiff.

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I do a warm/hot soak as well, but i'll only do it for 30-40 since the water usually cools off by then. I also do a soak to get the starch out. Removing the starch will prolong the life of your jeans and will make them less stiff.

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I wash on gentle cycle, cold, inside out, hang dry.  I could see the logic of using warm the first time reduce future shrinkage but I'm fearful I may never be able to get them on if I did that.

 

Why the soaking instead of gentle wash?

 

I guess its to avoid some theoretical increased dye loss from gentle inside out wash in the machine?  Is there some background evidence that this is true?  Seems sketchy.

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I wash on gentle cycle, cold, inside out, hang dry.  I could see the logic of using warm the first time reduce future shrinkage but I'm fearful I may never be able to get them on if I did that.

Why the soaking instead of gentle wash?

I guess its to avoid some theoretical increased dye loss from gentle inside out wash in the machine?  Is there some background evidence that this is true?  Seems sketchy.

there is no hard and fast rule about soaking/washing your raw denim. I avoid doing a machine wash the first time because of the dye/starch loss. I used to do a cold soak/inside out in the tub but after subsequent machine washes i've discovered there was still residual shrinkage in the length. For that reason I started doing warm/hot soaks to try to get as much shrink out as possible. However, I do have a few pairs of unworn/unwashed 3sixteen denim that I may not soak, only because of the problem you mentioned, not being able to get into my jeans. Likewise, I have several pair of Gustin jeans that fit perfectly in the top block, so I may end up only doing a warm/hot soak on the thighs/legs.
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I am part of the hot soak inside-out for and hour or so camp. I do it to every pair pretty much first thing.

 

 

On the wash cycle vs soak question - I washed an IxI pair inside out on a gentle cycle (10yr old top loader machine) and it did leave some very minimal fade marks in odd places. I stopped using the agitator after that and have stuck to minimal hand agitation in the tub ever since. Sounds a bit silly but it really only amounts to ~10min of work every 3-4mo. It's worth noting that I've heard from multiple ppl that agitation increases the shrink too   

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It's worth noting that I've heard from multiple ppl that agitation increases the shrink too   

that's precisely what happened to me. I have a pair of G American Standards that I initially cold soaked inside out. After 4 months of constant wear I opted to do the machine wash cold/inside out method and noticed that there was still a little bit of shrinkage in the inseam. The shrinkage was minimal but noticeable to me. there's no doubt in my mind that the agitation is what caused the residual shrinkage.

fwiw, i'll still do a cold machine wash on my jeans but only after i've done a warm/hot tub soak first. doing a machine wash does help bring out the awesome fades we see in denim and your jeans do come out cleaner imho
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I wash on gentle cycle, cold, inside out, hang dry.  I could see the logic of using warm the first time reduce future shrinkage but I'm fearful I may never be able to get them on if I did that.

 

Why the soaking instead of gentle wash?

 

I guess its to avoid some theoretical increased dye loss from gentle inside out wash in the machine?  Is there some background evidence that this is true?  Seems sketchy.


I've done a bit of research on why a soak is preferred to a wash and I kept reading that the initial first wash will set the dye in place much more significantly than a soak.  With just a soak, the jeans have increased fading potential initially and are more able to exhibit the high contrast style fades you would see behind the knees or with the outline of your phone.  Soaking removes some excess dye/starch to mitigate bleeding and simulates a wash with the jeans being exposed to water.  The first wash will spread dye throughout the garment, set the remaining dye in a way that makes it more resistant to future fading (I do not know the science or reasoning behind this, I took the articles' word on it). 

 

Obviously raw denim is going to fade no matter what and it's possible this difference in fading potential is minimal or completely false.  Washing the denim first before wearing wont prevent future fades from appearing.  I don't have experience washing before soaking and wearing so I really can't say with confidence what is right of better.  I have read what I posted above from a few sources though and logically it seems to make sense to me.  There are some pairs that arrive in such a beautiful state I almost wish they wouldn't fade, my 3sixteen shadow comes to mind, I'm sure the wear in will be sweet also when I get there though.   

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http://www.blueowl.us/blogs/news/92294593-denim-mythconceptions-popular-denim-myths-debunked

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this is a good read from BOW. they don't specifically address the cold/hot soak vs wash debate but they do state that you should in fact wash your jeans. these guys know their stuff
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Do somebody have Gustin boots in 8 size?

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Did anyone else get one of the wool CPOs with the matte black snaps?

 

I recently returned a herringbone CPO in large part because the snaps rattled.  A lot.  Take a step or move and I could hear them all rattle, whether they are snapped or unsnapped.  The top piece appears to crimp onto the bottom piece in such a way that they are connected but loosely so there is movement between them.  They shake like 20 little rattles! haha

 

Anyone else have these items who can comment on if their snaps are solid and quiet or jiggly and rattle?

 

Wondering if this is a huge widespread design defect, a manufacturing error on my particular CPO, or if I'm just unusually picky?

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How much stretch to you guys get out of your canvas chinos? I sized the Cone indigo canvas chinos slightly small like I do my jeans, expecting a good amount of stretch. So, they are fairly snug. I'm just trying to decide if I should give them a try, or sell them and wait until I can order them in a size larger.
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