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post #8731 of 10340
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Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post

Gustin,
how is it that the Horween CXL leather is stiff at first vs. that German steer hide?

I have several boots by Wolverine in horween CXl and they are super soft and pliable vs. full grain boots from say Red Wing heritage or Danner.   How is it that your horween CXL is not softer than full grain steer hide on the $499 jackets?

Thank you,
bigC

I think there is probably a big difference between "supple for a shoe or belt" and "supple for a jacket."

Think about the difference between a 10-12oz fabric being made up as a pair of pants versus a shirt.
post #8732 of 10340
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Originally Posted by CanadaCal View Post

ISC chino arrived. Fit is bang on and the fabric is killer. If this comes back do not miss it. Best Gustin piece yet for me.


Is the fabric more casual than a normal twill chino?
post #8733 of 10340

I suppose in theory, but its a deep shade and a tight weave.  I would suggest it would look just as refined as a brand new navy twill.  You would have to be really close to see any difference.  Its kind of the perfect weight, and it should wear fairly tough.  

post #8734 of 10340
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Originally Posted by CanadaCal View Post

ISC chino arrived. Fit is bang on and the fabric is killer. If this comes back do not miss it. Best Gustin piece yet for me.

 

@CanadaCal -- how'd you size on them?

post #8735 of 10340
I have the TS x Golden Bear collaboration, it's a stunning Moto jacket in whiskey. It's truly an impressive jacket, and I bought it pre-sale for $706 shipped, so pretty close to the $684 shipped Gustin is charging for their most expensive versions. I will say TS set the bar pretty high and I'll reserve judgement until I can handle both but I'm skeptical. Double zipper, insulated quilted lining, hidden button snaps on the the collar, etc. etc, etc. I'll go on the record as saying I got a lot for my money's worth with TS. I was excited to see what Gustin had in store, and will be interested in owner's impressions.

Full Disclosure the TS one is currently retailing for $1075, so this may be an unfair comparison at this point.

@gustin
@mikegnthensome





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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

I looked at the Taylor Stitch leather jacket and I think the Gustin jackets are nicer at a much lower price.  This example illustrates the value prop of the Gustin leather jacket.
post #8736 of 10340
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

I have the TS x Golden Bear collaboration, it's a stunning Moto jacket in whiskey. It's truly an impressive jacket, and I bought it pre-sale for $706 shipped, so pretty close to the $684 shipped Gustin is charging for their most expensive versions. I will say TS set the bar pretty high and I'll reserve judgement until I can handle both but I'm skeptical. Double zipper, insulated quilted lining, hidden button snaps on the the collar, etc. etc, etc. I'll go on the record as saying I got a lot for my money's worth with TS. I was excited to see what Gustin had in store, and will be interested in owner's impressions.

Full Disclosure the TS one is currently retailing for $1075, so this may be an unfair comparison at this point.

@gustin
@mikegnthensome


I've already said it, but I really love my TS+GB. Shame I got so little wear out of it so far - it's really breaking in nicely. Stupid weather being too nice out....where's my crappy "Pre-Spring" weather, eh?

 

edit: Also, I feel like the TS jacket and the Gustin jacket have a decent number of differences. They both still have a fold-down collar, but the side pockets, chest pockets, and cuffs are definitely different enough for me to not compare them. I both like and dislike the herringbone lining on G's...conceptually, I really love it. I just feel like it's...lacking. Honestly, TS' lining is a bit lacking too. Not in the same way though. I don't know what I wish they were, but it's something else I guess...

post #8737 of 10340

I'm disappointed. I finally received my first pair of Gustin jeans and despite following their sizing instructions to the letter, they were several sizes too big. Not only did I have to send them back but had to cancel my order on another pair too. Now I have a couple of hundred dollars in credit and they aren't posting anything I want. I'll definitely wait till there is something I would buy even without credit, but it's still a let down. I'm looking for some new black jeans and the order I had to cancel was black x coal. I was pretty excited by those. Hoping some other really unique black jeans pop up again soon.

post #8738 of 10340
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Originally Posted by SomeJerk View Post
 

I'm disappointed. I finally received my first pair of Gustin jeans and despite following their sizing instructions to the letter, they were several sizes too big. 

:crazy: 

Really? A couple sizes? Did they just sew up WAY outside of spec? 

 

I find this very surprising b/c I've personally found G's fit/measurement guide to be pretty dead on.

post #8739 of 10340
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Originally Posted by JilSlander View Post

 

@CanadaCal -- how'd you size on them?

 

33 Slim Chino.  They are a bit snugger than my Heavy Caramel Chino (12oz) but a bit more relaxed than my US Gunmetal Chino (7oz).  This is the material weight difference.  I find the 9-10oz range to be perfect for chinos I have realized.  I have Red Sand on order its in the 9's I think. 

 

I take a 34 Slim in Gustin Denim.  I'm an oddball for sure so don't go based off that.  I don't really do the whole no wash/fade thing, break in your jeans for 20-30 wears...  I bought because I liked the initial fabric/colour, and I wear them infrequent enough that they stay this the colour even with regular washing, and they have... 

 

 

The Gustin slim chino cut however is perfect for me.  Better fitting top block for me, bit more leg taper.  

 

I take a 33 in Epaulet Walt, Driggs, old and new Rivet Chino.  Gustin Chino & EP New Rivet are my 2 favourite fits as of now and I find them pretty similar...  Wish Gustin went to zipper fly on chino.  Only gripe.  

post #8740 of 10340
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Originally Posted by CanadaCal View Post

 Wish Gustin went to zipper fly on chino.  Only gripe.
I'm with you on that, and not only on the chinos.
post #8741 of 10340
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Originally Posted by Jorge View Post

I'm with you on that, and not only on the chinos.

As much as I love the chino fit, I agree that the button fly is quite laborious, especially with the individually seen button holes. Leads to needless urgent fumbling in time-sensitive situations.
post #8742 of 10340

Agreed. I now know why the zipper was invented.

post #8743 of 10340
LOL. Amateurs...
post #8744 of 10340

Not really.. if you wear them slim the fly tends to bow at times.  More so in the light materials, and after they've been washed a lot.  

 

Not a labour issue. 

post #8745 of 10340
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Originally Posted by th3buhbuh View Post
 


I've already said it, but I really love my TS+GB. Shame I got so little wear out of it so far - it's really breaking in nicely. Stupid weather being too nice out....where's my crappy "Pre-Spring" weather, eh?

 

edit: Also, I feel like the TS jacket and the Gustin jacket have a decent number of differences. They both still have a fold-down collar, but the side pockets, chest pockets, and cuffs are definitely different enough for me to not compare them. I both like and dislike the herringbone lining on G's...conceptually, I really love it. I just feel like it's...lacking. Honestly, TS' lining is a bit lacking too. Not in the same way though. I don't know what I wish they were, but it's something else I guess...

 

I prefer the more simple, clean, streamlined design of the Gustin compared to the GB+TS.  I like how the Gustin has only one chest pocket and without a zipper.  And I like that the Gustin doesn't have all the extra arm gusseting.

EDIT: I added photos of the back of the GB+TS and Gustin.  Note the multiple vertical seams and extra leather folds associated with the gussets on the GB+TS.  Also note the horizontal waist height seam.  I don't think any of these seams on the GB+TS back area are ideal.  The one type of back seam I think could be a style positive, and might help avoid the back looking so large or unshaped, are the diagonal seams that mimic the shape of the shoulder blades and potentially allow 3D tapering to the back shape.  I added a photo below of the Aero Highwayman as an example of back seams that look good.  I think the Gustin back is superior in this side-by-side against the GB+TS but I'm unsure whether the Gustin or Aero back is superior.

 

Also for CA or other warm climates its critical to NOT have extra lining or insulation in a jacket.  I have a few leather jackets with insulation or nice quilted interiors and I basically can't ever wear them in CA.  They have sat unused in my closet for years.  This is almost equally true for warm fuzzy linings such as heavy flannels that when combined with leather are too much for a warm climate.  Leather is so warm and wind resistant by itself that its best if just lined with a simple thin non-clingy liner fabric to avoid conflict with typical under layers, and feel comfortable with both long and short sleeve shirts.  Gustin is an SF, CA company and I think their selection of the uninsulated herringbone fabric is perfectly aligned with our needs in CA.  You can always add a thicker long sleeve shirt or sweater but you can't remove a quilted sewn in liner!  At least not very easily or reversibly.  :)

 

I have mixed emotions about the zip vs. buttoned cuff.  I like the look of the button better for a jacket that isn't designed to be a moto jacket.  But if I find myself needing to open/close the button very often then I'll probably find it difficult.  If the sleeves are correct length and width then I'll never screw with the button in which case its better.

 

The leather on the GB+TS is nice and under normal circumstances I'd find it to be awesome.  But the Horween Gustin options are just so awesome that in this case I favor them over the GB+TS.

 

Despite having way too many leather coats and being risk adverse to ordering a first jacket build from a new jacket player, I'm seriously tempted to order.  Not sure which one I would get though.  I love the Horween natural and #8 and they are the top contenders.  The German brown and black are too much like other jackets I own.  The Dublin Tan is amazing but maybe a bit too risky without in-person inspection.

 

I wish Gustin would post photos from various angles including the back with the jackets zipped and arms simply at the sides ie not distorting the shape.  I think I'll email them a request to do so.  I hope this will prove that the fit is nice, slim, and not baggy in the back.

 

Taylor Stitch + Golden Bear:

 

Gustin:

 

Aero Highwayman:

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Edited by mountainman3520 - 3/9/16 at 8:07pm
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