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post #8701 of 10357

I have the same problem with the back, how could they design a jacket that looks slim and sleek from the front, and yet a big blob from the back. reminds me of a shower curtain.  and this coming from a big Gustin fan, have tons of their jeans and shirt.

post #8702 of 10357

Can the length of the sleeves be altered on a leather jacket?

post #8703 of 10357
Not without the previous stitching area showing. Or the previous wear (or non wear) being visible
post #8704 of 10357

Pulled the trigger on some white trainers.  Thanks to all those that have posted impressions over the past couple months as I lurked.

 

I'm a pretty regular RC buyer for sweatshirts.  I recently grabbed a sweatshirt as well and would be more than happy to post my impressions as to how they compare.

post #8705 of 10357
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Originally Posted by silverprelude View Post
 

I have the same problem with the back, how could they design a jacket that looks slim and sleek from the front, and yet a big blob from the back. reminds me of a shower curtain.  and this coming from a big Gustin fan, have tons of their jeans and shirt.

 

The jacket looks like a bag, period. Few shots of them zipped up. Most have the hands in either the coat pockets pulling on them, making the jacket look tighter, or hangs in jeans pocket with fingers pressed on coat to make it look tighter.


Pics from back are straightforward, its a loose jacket.

 

I have a trucker and it was changed into a leather jacket it wouldn't fit that well. That's essentially what they did, size charts look the same, so fit must be similar.

 

Gustin is a jean company, or was, just a short time ago. I like the innovative spirit but not blown away by the results.

post #8706 of 10357
Have to say I'm not sure I understand the markup on items in the stock store. I guess there are cost involved with warehousing them and all that, but marking up the price seems odd to me.

Maybe it's just the price for impatience...
post #8707 of 10357
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Have to say I'm not sure I understand the markup on items in the stock store. I guess there are cost involved with warehousing them and all that, but marking up the price seems odd to me.

Maybe it's just the price for impatience...

 

2 reasons:

 

1.  Because theres moral hazard in their business model if they sell stock items for the same price.  People are more likely to wait and see if something comes in stock rather than back it to begin with.

 

2.  Because people will pay it.  As you said, impatience

post #8708 of 10357
I agree with both of those points. But I would add that it seems like it would benefit them to get the stock items off the shelf and not taking up warehouse space. Which brings up another question I've wondered about. Do they fill campaign orders from stock items? For instance, the brown duck chinos are funding right now, and there is at least one pair in the stock store. When the campaign closes, will the immediately fill orders from the campaign if they have that size/fit in stock? Seems like they would, in an effort to keep their inventory low as possible. I can understand keeping some around for exchanges and stuff. Just curious. Love the fit of their chinos and am slowly replacing most of my core pairs with theirs.
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I agree with both of those points. But I would add that it seems like it would benefit them to get the stock items off the shelf and not taking up warehouse space. Which brings up another question I've wondered about. Do they fill campaign orders from stock items? For instance, the brown duck chinos are funding right now, and there is at least one pair in the stock store. When the campaign closes, will the immediately fill orders from the campaign if they have that size/fit in stock? Seems like they would, in an effort to keep their inventory low as possible. I can understand keeping some around for exchanges and stuff. Just curious. Love the fit of their chinos and am slowly replacing most of my core pairs with theirs.

 

Typically, you're correct.  But the $ value of their stock items is not that significant, and they collect all other payments upfront, so I doubt working capital is difficult to come by.  They must believe they can sell stock items plenty quickly at a price premium, and having monitored the fluctuations myself, they seem to have been right so far.

 

I would doubt they use stock items for campaign orders but obviously I don't have any insider knowledge to prove that.

 

Keep in mind they benefit from having some inventory.  People are inherently impatient, so offering a new customer one item they can order immediately might be the difference in a lifetime customer, and a customer who never orders a thing from Gustin.  Put in those terms, the carrying cost of the inventory is cents on the dollar compared to what major fashion labels pay for customer acquisition costs.

post #8710 of 10357
Probably kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the pictures of the jacket from the back show it while the jacket is zipped or unzipped? I agree that it looks weirdly shapeless compared to how slim and contoured it appears from the front, but all jackets are going to look like that if they're not zipped.

FWIW, at one point I backed a campaign and was pretty much immediately sent the item, which leads me to believe that it was a return or an extra stock item.
post #8711 of 10357
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Originally Posted by notwithit View Post

Probably kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the pictures of the jacket from the back show it while the jacket is zipped or unzipped? I agree that it looks weirdly shapeless compared to how slim and contoured it appears from the front, but all jackets are going to look like that if they're not zipped.

FWIW, at one point I backed a campaign and was pretty much immediately sent the item, which leads me to believe that it was a return or an extra stock item.


Looks unzipped to me.  I'm not necessarily a fan of how the back looks, but I think people are blowing it way out of proportion.  As you mentioned, an unzipped jacket is going to have some slack in the back.  And if there is any stiffness to the leather, it will balloon out until softens up.  That being said, I am curious along with others why the Horween is more stiff than the steerhide.

 

It may depend on the item too.  I know there is currently (or was a day or two ago) a couple brown CXL boots in stock.  They have run like 50 campaigns of those over the past few months - one would think if they were planning to use it for campaign fulfillment, they would have done it by now.

post #8712 of 10357

I have no stake in this or Gustin, but just looking at the size chart the chest:shoulder ratio on the XS looks off (43.5cm shoulder, ~48.5 chest). Coming from someone small-shouldered attempting to be unbiased (true 36, 40-41cm shoulders), the shoulders seem on the large side of average. I don't know if it's a grading problem or deliberate, but most jackets I've seen in that size usually measure 40-42cm, and imo that's the most important part of a jacket to get the fit right on.

 

That said, the leather looks awesome, so if the fit's right and you're into the style I'd say go for it.

post #8713 of 10357
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FWIW, at one point I backed a campaign and was pretty much immediately sent the item, which leads me to believe that it was a return or an extra stock item.
I think this would be their biggest issue with fulfilling campaigns with already existing stock. It's clear to the customer that this was done if you received it way before everyone else received theirs. In the end though if there is no issue with the old stock item, then you and Gustin both win, you get your item sooner and they clear the shelf of that item.
post #8714 of 10357
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Originally Posted by notwithit View Post

Probably kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the pictures of the jacket from the back show it while the jacket is zipped or unzipped? I agree that it looks weirdly shapeless compared to how slim and contoured it appears from the front, but all jackets are going to look like that if they're not zipped.

FWIW, at one point I backed a campaign and was pretty much immediately sent the item, which leads me to believe that it was a return or an extra stock item.

 

I've definitely had this happen as well, where an Item I just backed shipped to me within a few days of backing.  So clearly it was an extra from the prior batch or a return.  I had mixed emotions about it because I wasn't excited about receiving someone's return.  I would rather wait for a new item.  In my opinion, returned items should be sold as such with the customer knowing that they are getting a return.  In a normal business model the seller generally has to offer a modest discount to encourage people to select the returned item but in the Gustin model they can probably charge the same (or apparently more) due to the impatience incentive.

post #8715 of 10357
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Looks unzipped to me.  I'm not necessarily a fan of how the back looks, but I think people are blowing it way out of proportion.  As you mentioned, an unzipped jacket is going to have some slack in the back.  And if there is any stiffness to the leather, it will balloon out until softens up.  That being said, I am curious along with others why the Horween is more stiff than the steerhide.

 

It may depend on the item too.  I know there is currently (or was a day or two ago) a couple brown CXL boots in stock.  They have run like 50 campaigns of those over the past few months - one would think if they were planning to use it for campaign fulfillment, they would have done it by now.

 

I've been thinking the same thing.  Hopefully Gustin will post some more photos with the jackets zipped.  I think they will show that this is a slim cut and couldn't reasonably be made more fitted.  I know the photo below isn't a true "zipped and hanging untouched" photo, but still it shows how slim the jacket is.  The other photos from the back are with the front unzipped and the leather new, so its hanging out a bit, which is normal.

 

The leathers are certainly beautiful.  I love all three Horween versions.  Not sure anything could be done in the shoulders or body cut to cause the back to hang differently when unzipped.  This could be mainly an illusion of being more straight in back due to not having the more common divided back panel where a pattern of seams create the appearance of more contours.

 

I think the fit should be right when zipped and if there isn't extra fabric causing bagginess when zipped then the fit is good.  But in CA my jackets are unzipped 99% of the time so its important that it hangs nicely in that state.  Most of my current leather jackets that are not broken in hang a bit stiff too and it causes them to be less shaped when unzipped.  Its the nature of the beast.

 

 


Edited by mountainman3520 - 3/8/16 at 9:16am
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