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post #8686 of 10340

I'm really not a fan of these shirt style jackets with their weird button cuffs.  I'd never shell out $500-$700 on something that looks no better than run of the mill stuff from Macy's. 

 

Also, although I love the Horween leathers, I would avoid them for use in a jacket, Chromexcel in particular.  The dye will rub off onto furniture, and your clothing.  This will happen with any oil tanned leather.  I have the Chromexcel #8 belt from Gustin, and a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile boots.  My jeans have reddish marks in the belt area and inside the cuffs.


Edited by policecar - 3/7/16 at 10:42am
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@crossfi73  I suspect they rolled that jacket up a bit to get those marks.  Right out of the factory highs and lows in the leather are much more minimal.


Edited by policecar - 3/7/16 at 10:52am
post #8688 of 10340
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@crossfi73  I suspect they rolled that jacket up a bit to get those marks.  Right out of the factory highs and lows in the leather are much more minimal.


Maybe so...

 

I'll send them an email asking about it, and I will include the waist question and post it up here for anyone who is curious.

post #8689 of 10340
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Originally Posted by policecar View Post
 

I'm really not a fan of these shirt style jackets with their weird button cuffs.  I'd never shell out $500-$700 on something that looks no better than run of the mill stuff from Macy's. 

 

Also, although I love the Horween leathers, I would avoid them for use in a jacket, Chromexcel in particular.  The dye will rub off onto furniture, and your clothing.  This will happen with any oil tanned leather.  I have the Chromexcel #8 belt from Gustin, and a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile boots.  My jeans have reddish marks in the belt area and inside the cuffs.


1. This is run of the mill Macy's pricing for much more premium leathers and made in the USA.

2. I have little to no experience with chromexcel bleeding onto other materials. I have a Color 8 CXL jacket (albeit horsehide) and multiple belts and shoes in CXL, and not once have I had bleeding. Your belt may be an anomaly because of it holding in body moisture.

post #8690 of 10340

From Gustin:

"There's about a 3" taper from the chest to the waist.

We handled the jackets quite a bit, but didn't do anything specifically to increase the [splotchy] effect. With time, this will definitely become much less pronounced."

post #8691 of 10340

The jackets look nice, but I'd really like to be able to try something on before dropping the cash on it at that price point.  A leather jacket has to fit well, and that is difficult to determine based on a few measurements alone.  

post #8692 of 10340
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

@Gustin - jackets look great. double zippers in the future would be aces though

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post #8693 of 10340
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Originally Posted by jmaudi0 View Post
 

that same pic turned me off from the jackets but not bc of the Natural CXL color but rather bc the back of the jacket has no shape.  just a straight tube....

not a fan of the cut.  

 

i know some people prefer the solid piece of leather...i just wish it had some shape.


I agree, great leather, decent price but that back design and shape is terrible!

post #8694 of 10340
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Originally Posted by crossfi73 View Post
 

From Gustin:

"There's about a 3" taper from the chest to the waist.

We handled the jackets quite a bit, but didn't do anything specifically to increase the [splotchy] effect. With time, this will definitely become much less pronounced."

Cool and thanks. That is, for ease of comparison, slightly more than TOJ/Falcon puts on their jackets (Falcons according to the size chart are, in stock sizes, about a 2-inch drop). It's a bit strange to me that the jacket has that kind of drop (which you can clearly see when it's laid out) and it still looks relatively boxy in the back compared to something like a Falcon. I wonder if it's the sizing, the initial stiffness of the leather, or just something about the particular pattern.

post #8695 of 10340

Gustin,

how is it that the Horween CXL leather is stiff at first vs. that German steer hide?

 

I have several boots by Wolverine in horween CXl and they are super soft and pliable vs. full grain boots from say Red Wing heritage or Danner.   How is it that your horween CXL is not softer than full grain steer hide on the $499 jackets?

 

Thank you,

bigC

post #8696 of 10340
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1. This is run of the mill Macy's pricing for much more premium leathers and made in the USA.

2. I have little to no experience with chromexcel bleeding onto other materials. I have a Color 8 CXL jacket (albeit horsehide) and multiple belts and shoes in CXL, and not once have I had bleeding. Your belt may be an anomaly because of it holding in body moisture.

I agree

 

Also, I would highlight the fact that this is an extremely versatile and common design that's pretty highly regarded. I made reference to Aero's highwayman the other day which is a similar design and that is one of there most commonly sold designs. It's been around for a long time and Aero is using Horween CXL steerhide also. I would have likey G to include the weight of the hide though. It would be a helpful measure for thickness of the leather. 

 

Personally, I like the CXL for jackets. Chrome tanned hides have been used for leather jacekts forever and purely veg tan hides tend to absorb water

post #8697 of 10340
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Also, I would highlight the fact that this is an extremely versatile and common design that's pretty highly regarded.

But isn't it a classic Gustin move to do this and just miss the target?

Of all my Gustin purchases, I've only been happy with the socks so far.
post #8698 of 10340
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But isn't it a classic Gustin move to do this and just miss the target?

Of all my Gustin purchases, I've only been happy with the socks so far.

 

Well, damn.

 

:rotflmao:

post #8699 of 10340
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I agree

 

Also, I would highlight the fact that this is an extremely versatile and common design that's pretty highly regarded. I made reference to Aero's highwayman the other day which is a similar design and that is one of there most commonly sold designs. It's been around for a long time and Aero is using Horween CXL steerhide also. I would have likey G to include the weight of the hide though. It would be a helpful measure for thickness of the leather. 

 

Personally, I like the CXL for jackets. Chrome tanned hides have been used for leather jacekts forever and purely veg tan hides tend to absorb water

 

All the new L1 jackets list the leather as being 3-3.5oz, including the Horween and German.  Also they all state that the leather is "full grain steer hide".

 

I looked on the Aero website but didn't see the thickness of the leather they use listed anywhere to compare.

 

Someone asked the question why the Horween is described as being stiff while the German is described as supple.  This is a bit surprising if they are both the same thickness and both full grain steer hide.  My CXL leather items are all very soft and supple.

 

I like the way the leathers look.  Tempting.  Not sure about the back appearance.  I'm trying to decide if I prefer the solid single piece back vs. segmented back.  I can see why its more expensive to use a single piece back but maybe it makes it more difficult to contour the back shape?

 

Given my closet full of leather jackets I guess I should wait and see how much people love these even though its tough to resist jumping on board.

post #8700 of 10340
I don't say it to hate. Something like Gustin has a lot of potential to be awesome for the basics that almost everyone needs (except the most fashunz folks).

Unfortunately, the only similar businesses I've seen all fall into the same trap of looking like techbro-FUBU (for us by us, for those sleeping under a rock in the 2000's).

Wait, I lied, I like the black duffle too. Basically, things where they didn't need to have a person who had experience with cutting patterns.
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