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post #8596 of 10492
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Your posts about that footbed awhile back did have me worried for my pair that had yet to arrive.  I checked my #8 lowtops immediately and was relieved that I didn't have the same issue.  I definitely agree that it can't have just been an isolated incident for your two pairs (unless you wronged Josh Gustin many years ago and this was his payback plan).  I think many people didn't notice or check and I'm sure since you brought this issue up to customer service, they have made it a point to fix for all future releases.  I hope they continue to expand their footwear line because I love my sneakers and am hearing solid things about the boots.  It would be cool if Gustin considered a basic oxford style shoe, something I could wear to work (keeping consistent with the unique material and nice price point, otherwise I would have to stick with more traditional companies). 

 

I hope you are correct and Gustin has resolved the sneaker footbed issue because I'm super tempted by the newly posted Blue Gum Sole Low Top.  I love the navy leather and am currently in a blue shoe phase.  Not sure how I feel about the combo with the yellow sole, but then again I'm not sure what would look better.  Black?  White?  Matching shade of blue?  Contrasting lighter or darker shade of blue?  Hmmm.

 

Maybe I'll order a pair and then send an email to Gustin CS asking them to confirm how they have fixed the prior footbed issue.  And if they are not sure they have fixed it yet then I'll ask them to cancel my order.

post #8597 of 10492
If you're trying to be dressy or professional, it's pretty simple - don't wear jeans. Jeans are casual by nature and are not formal, semi formal, business dress, whatever the hell you want to call it.
post #8598 of 10492
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If you're trying to be dressy or professional, it's pretty simple - don't wear jeans. Jeans are casual by nature and are not formal, semi formal, business dress, whatever the hell you want to call it.

 

In a lot of professional jobs these days, a nice pair of jeans can easily pass for business casual when paired with the right items, for example boots and button shirt such as an oxford.  This may have started as a "casual Friday" outfit but its now very common every day in Silicon Valley.

 

Its certainly true that some professional or non professional jobs require more formal clothing but its just as true that many do not.  There are multi-millionaire execs wearing nice jeans to business meetings and waiters wearing tuxedos.

 

I think its perfectly reasonable to use a pair of raw denim such as Gustin in some office environments and still be dressed professionally.  Or they can be dressed up with more formal shirts or a sports coat.  The regular cut are best for most work environments, save the skinnys for a night out.  Also they will be more dressy when new and become more casual as they fade or show wear.

 

If you have a few jeans in your rotation, wear them 10 times between washes, wash inside out cold gentle and hang dry, it will take a long time before they fade or show abrasions.

post #8599 of 10492

I call on many North American/Global retailers.  Some of the big ones.    Pretty much all of which are inherently more casual in day to day office settings now.    Chinos and a tucked in shirt is "well dressed".   Jeans are worn all the time.  Now I would never show up in jeans, but they are wearing them 50% of the time....  

 

 

In my office we wear jeans, unless we have visitors/clients scheduled. 

 

 

If you want more "professional" looking jeans, go with an indigo/indigo, or an indigo with less white weft show through.  Ingido/Black is also good.  You want to avoid fades and washes, obviously rips, duh...   Darker is better. 

 

No sense is getting raw, unless you really like Gustins fit.   And don't cuff them, hem appropriately and make sure the fit is flattering. 

 

 

 

That's my 2 cents..   And please realize you have asked this on a forum that complains about odd trousers, orphaned jackets, and spread collars without a tie and jacket...  Not likely you will get a warm response to "professional jeans".  

post #8600 of 10492
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In a lot of professional jobs these days, a nice pair of jeans can easily pass for business casual when paired with the right items, for example boots and button shirt such as an oxford.  This may have started as a "casual Friday" outfit but its now very common every day in Silicon Valley.

 

You wrote business casual. It literally has casual in the name. That means by definition it isn't dressy.

 

Also, just because something is common doesn't mean it is right or correct.

post #8601 of 10492
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You wrote business casual. It literally has casual in the name. That means by definition it isn't dressy.

 

Also, just because something is common doesn't mean it is right or correct.

 

Yes, agreed.  Mainly I don't think its accurate to say wearing jeans to work is not being professionally dressed, in a world where many millions of people clearly in professional jobs are doing so daily.  Whether one likes this trend or not, it cannot be denied.

 

I would still put jeans in the category of "business casual" even when dressed up using more dressy jeans, shirt, shoes.  But soon I may fall behind the times.

 

A denim business suit?  That's clearly "business formal"!  :)

 

 

post #8602 of 10492
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

 

 

A denim business suit?  That's clearly "business formal"!  :)

 

 

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post #8604 of 10492
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You wrote business casual. It literally has casual in the name. That means by definition it isn't dressy.

 

Also, just because something is common doesn't mean it is right or correct.


Regardless of the correct vernacular, the workforce today is different than it was in the 60's.  In many professions, jeans are absolutely appropriate and anyone who tells you different is out of touch or speaking from personal experience that shouldn't be applied universally.  What's right and appropriate for someone will depend on a number of things including your career, position in the company, peers, accepted standards, and much more.  I work on the management side for a construction company and jeans are common throughout the office from entry level kids out of college to our 50 year old execs.  I have worn the same 5 pairs of Gustins for multiple years to the job and they have always been fine.  On one pair the fades became pretty pronounced after a year or so and now I use those as a beater pair that I wear on trips to the jobsites.  I wear my newer pairs of raws to work and have gotten close to 2 years out of many of them and I transition them to casual wear or jobsite wear as needed. 

 

Another thing to remember is that while this site is helpful for a number of things, styleforum does not create fashion laws, as much as they'd like too.  Some of the outfits I see people post on here I find absurd and wouldn't be caught dead wearing, and those are almost always coming from the more established users.  Also, people seem to think it's cool to be ridiculously over-dressed for the occasion on here.  There is nothing wrong with dressing appropriately for the situation and not crying for attention with a ridiculous gettup reminiscent of Johnny Depp character.  A button down with nice denim and good shoes will put you ahead of many often times and have you ready for the day.  No Denim to work?  Is this Mad Men?

 

 

post #8605 of 10492
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I work on the management side for a construction company=

 

Did you really think I was talking about construction jobs? Or were you just trying to have as facetious an argument as possible?

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Regardless of the correct vernacular, 

 

What do you mean regardless of vernacular? Thats exactly what we were talking about. You just threw the whole conversation out the window and went off on your own tangent.

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Some of the outfits I see people post on here I find absurd and wouldn't be caught dead wearing, and those are almost always coming from the more established users.  

This has nothing to do with anything that we were saying.

post #8606 of 10492
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Did you really think I was talking about construction jobs? Or were you just trying to have as facetious an argument as possible?

What do you mean regardless of vernacular? Thats exactly what we were talking about. You just threw the whole conversation out the window and went off on your own tangent.

This has nothing to do with anything that we were saying.


1.  Just offering an example for the difference the word professional can have in different job settings.  The office of a national construction company in the financial district of a big city can be a fashionable place, rending your blanket statement, "construction jobs," incorrect and misguided.  I was going for the maximum amount of facetiousness thought, nice call. 

 

2.  The original poster didn't mention professional or business casual or any of that.  He mentioned wanting to wear a nice pair of jeans to work.  So in reality, I was trying to save you from your own tangent. 

 

3.  Lastly, the bit which you claimed has nothing to do with anything, was meant to reassure the poster that he doesn't need to be weary after reading posts from people with green ribbons by their name.  People often chime in on topics and give their opinion as fact, and then post a picture in which they look like a cartoon character.  So when they hear something of that nature, they don't need to necessarily heed it.  The guy wanted a pair of jeans he could wear to work and had some questions about fading etc.  You gave him a sermon on the nature or jeans and how they shouldn't be considered.  Congrats. 

post #8607 of 10492
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Originally Posted by Medoc View Post
 

 


1. exception that proves the rule.

2. I referred to common work related dress codes - no tangent.

3. You're speaking purely in terms of generalities here "people with green ribbons" "people often chime in"  - you can say anything with such statements. I'm sure some people with high post counts dress well, and some dress poorly, but neither proves your point.  I'm sure the OP can figure out on his own who to listen to.

 

if you want to continue, you can PM me, I'd rather not clog up this thread.

post #8608 of 10492
My workplace official dress code went to 100% casual this year and the things which people deem to be appropriate to wear to work disgusts me. A nice pair of jeans with a button up would be a massive step up for the majority of people. Certainly the notion that every person should be fashion forward or sartorially correct is beyond imagination at this point. All I personally would like is for people to have sense of self respect in regards to their wardrobe.

Having said that, I think a number of the fabrics which Gustin offers would look very good in a casual work environment. The earlier recommendations for dark weft I think particularly help to "dress up" denim. I also find their chinos to be very well constructed and perfectly casual for my tastes.
post #8609 of 10492
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Another thing to remember is that while this site is helpful for a number of things, styleforum does not create fashion laws, as much as they'd like too.  Some of the outfits I see people post on here I find absurd and wouldn't be caught dead wearing, and those are almost always coming from the more established users.  Also, people seem to think it's cool to be ridiculously over-dressed for the occasion on here.  There is nothing wrong with dressing appropriately for the situation and not crying for attention with a ridiculous gettup reminiscent of Johnny Depp character.  A button down with nice denim and good shoes will put you ahead of many often times and have you ready for the day.  No Denim to work?  Is this Mad Men?

 

 

 

I agree with you on this point. But this is styleforum after all, place where people playing dress up, taking pictures for the internet, expressing their alter ego or whatsoever. I remember some said they can't wait to get out of work to be able to wear 'real' clothes. Does that mean their work clothes are fake? 

post #8610 of 10492
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post
 

 

I hope you are correct and Gustin has resolved the sneaker footbed issue because I'm super tempted by the newly posted Blue Gum Sole Low Top.  I love the navy leather and am currently in a blue shoe phase.  Not sure how I feel about the combo with the yellow sole, but then again I'm not sure what would look better.  Black?  White?  Matching shade of blue?  Contrasting lighter or darker shade of blue?  Hmmm.

 

Maybe I'll order a pair and then send an email to Gustin CS asking them to confirm how they have fixed the prior footbed issue.  And if they are not sure they have fixed it yet then I'll ask them to cancel my order.

 

The first photo is a Common Projects, Men's Original Achilles Low Top, Navy.

The second photo is the currently posted Gustin, Blue Gum Sole Low Top.

 

What do people think of the comparison between these shoes?

 

Of course the Gustin is less than half the price so if cost is considered then the Gustin is a compelling value.

 

But excluding cost, what about style?

 

The upper leather color looks to be nearly identical.

 

The interior on the CP is dark (matching navy or black) while the Gustin is tan.  I think I like the Gustin tan interior better but its not a major factor due to being mostly hidden.

 

The major difference is the color of the sole.  I think I may prefer the more subtle blue matching sole on the CP.  But I've been going back and forth and would like to hear other opinions.

 

 

 

 

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