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post #7936 of 10351

While I don't feel quite as strongly as @whiskeyriver about the makeup, I do agree that the two pocket design would have been great for that heavy chambray. I would have no issues backing it with the current design b/c I like that design well enough. The two pocket design would have been a better fit though IMHO

 

Also, @mountainman3520, I agree that there are factors that we accept in exchange for the lower price point but it's important to remember that the idea of "value" is specific to the individual. In other words, one person may accept a $10 discount for a 2-3mo wait time while another may want $50. Similarly, those two fictitious individuals have different thresholds for "quality" - one misplaced stitch may be a non-starter for one and the other may be fine with a 1" thigh variance. All I'm saying is that if all the Gustin made products aren't at at the exact same level as an IH products it wont matter to some people - many wouldn't even notice. Personally, if they are w/in striking distance it's good enough for me.    

post #7937 of 10351
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Originally Posted by avsmusic1 View Post
 

While I don't feel quite as strongly as @whiskeyriver about the makeup, I do agree that the two pocket design would have been great for that heavy chambray. I would have no issues backing it with the current design b/c I like that design well enough. The two pocket design would have been a better fit though IMHO

 

Also, @mountainman3520, I agree that there are factors that we accept in exchange for the lower price point but it's important to remember that the idea of "value" is specific to the individual. In other words, one person may accept a $10 discount for a 2-3mo wait time while another may want $50. Similarly, those two fictitious individuals have different thresholds for "quality" - one misplaced stitch may be a non-starter for one and the other may be fine with a 1" thigh variance. All I'm saying is that if all the Gustin made products aren't at at the exact same level as an IH products it wont matter to some people - many wouldn't even notice. Personally, if they are w/in striking distance it's good enough for me.    

 

Yes, I agree.  We each attach different value and priorities to different things.  My point is we shouldn't forget that the Gustin model includes inherent disadvantages that should be considered alongside the advantages such as lower price.  People can scale these based on their priorities but should not forget them.  If buying a Gustin left handed smoke shifter, a version from Gustin needs to cost maybe 33% less than an exactly equal retail version.  A slightly inferior Gustin version might need to be 50% less.  A superior Gustin version might be equal in cost to the retail version and still be good value.  Its worthwhile for all of us to consciously think about our own personal value prop calculation before backing an item.

post #7938 of 10351
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Originally Posted by exophobe View Post

sold out in less than 30 minutes.

God damn. I was literally in an MRI when that bad boy was up and selling. Been waiting for that for a while, too.

Curses.
post #7939 of 10351
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God damn. I was literally in an MRI when that bad boy was up and selling. Been waiting for that for a while, too.

Curses.

Maybe send them an email on the off=chance someone changes their mind and cancels it before sizing locks. I don't know if they can do that, but it might be worth a shot.

post #7940 of 10351
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God damn. I was literally in an MRI when that bad boy was up and selling. Been waiting for that for a while, too.

Curses.

 

Josh is probably beating the bushes in search of more oxblood fabric at this very minute.  I'll bet they return soon and with enough available quantity to satiate the pent up demand.

 

Perhaps I'll start breaking in the pair of unworn oxbloods i obtained a few months ago!  And feel all the more special because they are such a rare and special item.  :)

post #7941 of 10351
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Originally Posted by exophobe View Post

Maybe send them an email on the off=chance someone changes their mind and cancels it before sizing locks. I don't know if they can do that, but it might be worth a shot.

Meh, it's ok. Fair is fair. There will be a next time.
post #7942 of 10351
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


Meh, it's ok. Fair is fair. There will be a next time.

 

Part of the fun is the glory of the hunt.  :)

post #7943 of 10351
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

Its true that the Iron Heart example is double the price, but we shouldn't count the price difference twice when evaluating overall value.  The lower price of Gustin compared to competitors offsets the downsides of pre-ordering/pre-paying for the item 3 months before receipt, not being able to try the item on before purchase, not being able to touch and feel the fabric and colors, returns for store credit only, paying for shipping potentially both ways, waiting months for desired items to appear and then rushing to back before they sell out (hello oxbloods from this AM), etc.  There are clear downsides to buying from Gustin that are offset by them offering a low price for high/equivalent quality items.  Their marketing is consistent with this idea, ie they say on each posted item "vs typical $xxx prices for similar item from competitors".  Gustin must keep these relative comparisons credible by not falling behind in quality compared to those items they are using as price comparisons.  I think they need to be priced at 50% to max 66% of a credible comparison item to offset their downsides.  Anyone want to buy via the Gustin model for a 10% discount off a similar item on a store shelf?  No thanks.

So we shouldn't also accept lower quality products from a material, construction, style, etc. perspective and attribute that acceptance to the price being 50%.  Gustin has got to be top notch quality for them to maintain a positive overall value proposition.

(note that I'm not saying anything specific about this particular item or its value and style.  This is a general comment about not making quality compromises due to the Gustin price.  Only buy Gustin items that meet your quality standards if you were paying the typical higher retail price because you are effectively paying the price delta in other ways.)
Hey I agree with what you said & never thought about it like that but it makes sense. I am new to gustin & don't know much about other retailers but from my own research & talking to people they do produce solid jeans, shirts etc. I can't speak for other brand but do see your point of view.
post #7944 of 10351

From last week:

I don't think I posted it here.

For you Oxblood 2 lovers.

post #7945 of 10351

Was stoked to see a heavy chambray then saw it was in the original button down style.  Major facepalm.  I've been rocking the two pocket twill shirt from them and it is awesome.  Why they don't release it anymore is truly mind boggling.

 

Oh well.  Off to back the chambray shirts from Taylor Stitch.

post #7946 of 10351
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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post
 

From last week:

I don't think I posted it here.

For you Oxblood 2 lovers.

 

 

Maybe I should follow up with some more oxblood 2 x blue 'berg love:

 

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Maybe I should follow up with some more oxblood 2 x blue 'berg love:

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

I see your 'bergs and I raise you another blue pair.

 

 

post #7948 of 10351

Anyone having any issues with foot sliding or rising in the low tops?  Shoes appear to fit everywhere including width and toe box, with no excess room.  I have to tie these shoes extremely tight to avoid foot sliding/rising.  This seems like it may just have to do with the shoe design and me getting used to a new fit.  Issue is not enough to warrant a return and I'm still very pleased with the purchase overall.  Just curious to see if anyone else has experienced something similar. 

post #7949 of 10351
Very jealous of you gents with your Oxblood jeans but I finally got a chance to back mine today. You gents enjoy those jeans in good health.
post #7950 of 10351
exceptional oxblood and blue boot pairings gents
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