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Japan Union color changed? Interesting
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Originally Posted by TtownMD View Post

First thank you for providing very good info. So I ordered Japan 21 jeans & followed the direction they provide on there website for sizing. Would you recommend sticking to that or size up one size. I did Slim fit for what it's worth.

I'd say it depends on how tight you wear your jeans. I like to be able to fully button a new pair and be able to wear them comfortably. I just measure a good fitting pair I already own and go by the Gustin size chart. Now that I have a few pairs, I know my sizing. On the Japan 21 jeans, I went 31 Regular. I can wear a 31 Regular or a 31 Slim, but I generally wear these heavier denims with boots, and the Slim cut has too small of a cuff to fit over engineer or harness boots. My pair of the 26oz is the slim cut, and I kind of wish I had went regular, but they fit fine.
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post

I'd say it depends on how tight you wear your jeans. I like to be able to fully button a new pair and be able to wear them comfortably. I just measure a good fitting pair I already own and go by the Gustin size chart. Now that I have a few pairs, I know my sizing. On the Japan 21 jeans, I went 31 Regular. I can wear a 31 Regular or a 31 Slim, but I generally wear these heavier denims with boots, and the Slim cut has too small of a cuff to fit over engineer or harness boots. My pair of the 26oz is the slim cut, and I kind of wish I had went regular, but they fit fine.
Good to know thank you for your input. Will stay to my normal size then biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post

Thanks Andy, very informative.

My first pair of Gustin's were #27 The Heavy American, 16.25 oz cone.   These were the most heavy and stiff pants I'd over owned and I was intimidated at first (you know that OMG feeling when you first slide them and start to button) but they have now broken in nicely and I love the way they feel.  I think they stretched around 1" similar to your #82 American Sixteener, 16.5oz cone.  These two jeans sounds very similar.  Gustin describes them as having a difference in shade with the #82 being more saturated, but the #27 seem about as dark indigo as anything so that's hard for me to imagine.

I also ordered the #26 Super Heavy Slubs, 18 oz Japan, a few months ago and recently received them, but I've not started wearing yet.  Looking forward to that, maybe they are next in the break-in rotation.  Winter season now so its time for all of us to break in those heavy 14+ oz denims before spring!

Over the last two months I've been greatly enjoying break-in of my #1 The Heavy (straight) and #7 The Regular (slim).

How often do you wear your 26 oz beasts?  Do you recommend them if they ever show up again?  Or are they more of a curiosity than an enjoyable piece of clothing?

I'm going to my Gustin pending break-in stack right now to pull out the #26 super heavy slubs!  Thanks for reminding me about them.

I know exactly what you mean about pulling on a pair of 16oz+ denim when you're used to 12oz Levis. Haha! Now, anything under 16oz feels like dress pants. I do own some lighter weight denim (I have the Grey H-bones in 10.5 oz), but I don't wear them very often.

I wore the 26oz Beasts for 50 days last winter. They feel like really dense sweatpants now. Very soft, but not flimsy. They will still almost stand up by themselves. I enjoy wearing them, and it's almost time to put them back in the rotation. Honestly, I would definitely go for them if Gustin would ever do another run, but I highly doubt they will. The pair I own has a lot of stitching imperfections due to the thickness of the denim. I don't think Gustin wants to deal with the hassle of that heavy of denim again.
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post


I know exactly what you mean about pulling on a pair of 16oz+ denim when you're used to 12oz Levis. Haha! Now, anything under 16oz feels like dress pants. I do own some lighter weight denim (I have the Grey H-bones in 10.5 oz), but I don't wear them very often.

I wore the 26oz Beasts for 50 days last winter. They feel like really dense sweatpants now. Very soft, but not flimsy. They will still almost stand up by themselves. I enjoy wearing them, and it's almost time to put them back in the rotation. Honestly, I would definitely go for them if Gustin would ever do another run, but I highly doubt they will. The pair I own has a lot of stitching imperfections due to the thickness of the denim. I don't think Gustin wants to deal with the hassle of that heavy of denim again.

 

Those beasts sound awesome!  Josh may be tempted to run them again if we ask for them enough on this forum and maybe question his passion and seriousness about denim?  :)

 

I'm a bit bummed I missed the 23 oz but I'll likely get another chance at those if this recent build went okay.

 

Today I wore the most heavy denim I've worn for the first time.  Day 1 for the 18oz Japanese #26 Super Heavy Slub.

 

Measurements prior to first wear, compared to the Gustin fit guide specs:

 

Cut Model Tagged Size Waist Front Rise Thigh (2" down) Knee (15" down) Cuff Inseam
Slim Fit Guide 33 33.5 10 22.9 16 15 34
Straight Fit Guide 33 33.5 11 23.5 18 18 34
Straight #26 Super Heavy Slub 33 32.5 11 23.25 17.5 16.5 34.75

 

The rise, thigh, and knee were on spec within half an inch.  Inseam was a bit longer than spec which I've noticed before and may be a trend.  The cuffs are pretty far off spec to the narrow side, which i'm glad about.  I've been noticing this trend and wonder if Gustin is quietly responding to feedback by shifting the straight pattern to be slightly more tapered and narrow in the cuff?  Hope so.

The combination of the 18oz and the waist being a bit under spec made for a tight day!  But I managed to button them so they are going to be a great long-term fit.  Maybe the under spec waist is due to what multiple people have mentioned about heavy denim tending to sew up small.

 

I loved the fabric all day, even on day 1, and these are really great jeans.  I highly recommend the #26 Super Heavy Slub to everyone when it posts again.


Edited by mountainman3520 - 11/16/15 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post
 

 

Those beasts sound awesome!  Josh may be tempted to run them again if we ask for them enough on this forum and maybe question his passion and seriousness about denim?  :)

 

I'm a bit bummed I missed the 23 oz but I'll likely get another chance at those if this recent build went okay.

 

Today I wore the most heavy denim I've worn for the first time.  Day 1 for the 18oz Japanese #26 Super Heavy Slub.

 

Measurements prior to first wear, compared to the Gustin fit guide specs:

 

Cut Model Tagged Size Waist Front Rise Thigh (2" down) Knee (15" down) Cuff Inseam
Slim Fit Guide 33 33.5 10 22.9 16 15 34
Straight Fit Guide 33 33.5 11 23.5 18 18 34
Straight #26 Super Heavy Slub 33 32.5 11 23.25 17.5 16.5 34.75

 

The rise, thigh, and knee were on spec within half an inch.  Inseam was a bit longer than spec which I've noticed before and may be a trend.  The cuffs are pretty far off spec to the narrow side, which i'm glad about.  I've been noticing this trend and wonder if Gustin is quietly responding to feedback by shifting the straight pattern to be slightly more tapered and narrow in the cuff?  Hope so.

The combination of the 18oz and the waist being a bit under spec made for a tight day!  But I managed to button them so they are going to be a great long-term fit.  Maybe the under spec waist is due to what multiple people have mentioned about heavy denim tending to sew up small.

 

I loved the fabric all day, even on day 1, and these are really great jeans.  I highly recommend the #26 Super Heavy Slub to everyone when it posts again.

Gustin has adjusted their fit guide a bit, straight 33s now should measure  17.5" Knee and Cuff.

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When you guys talk about jeans stretching back to the original size, do you actually stretch them, if so how, by hand or using another method?
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Originally Posted by andermt View Post

When you guys talk about jeans stretching back to the original size, do you actually stretch them, if so how, by hand or using another method?

The fabric will simply stretch under the pressure of your body. It's not something that you have to try and do with your hands, it just happens. So, if after you soak/wash the waist shrinks a little and it's fitting more snugly, it will naturally stretch back out after a few wears.

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Originally Posted by cyclonus View Post

Gustin has adjusted their fit guide a bit, straight 33s now should measure  17.5" @ Knee and Cuff.
Good info! I wish I'd known this a week or two ago before they locked size on the 33 slim American Fourteeners I ordered. A 33 straight, with that slimmer knee and cuff, would be better.
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Good info! I wish I'd known this a week or two ago before they locked size on the 33 slim American Fourteeners I ordered. A 33 straight, with that slimmer knee and cuff, would be better.

I hear ya, I'd still like to see the cuff around 16" but every little bit counts! 

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Man what was the point of introducing the two-pocket/no-button-collar shirt design if they're just going to keep releasing all these good flannels the old (crappy) way?

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Originally Posted by cyclonus View Post
 

Gustin has adjusted their fit guide a bit, straight 33s now should measure  17.5" @ Knee and Cuff.

 

That's very interesting.  I hadn't noticed they changed the fit guide.

 

That modest reduction of 0.5" on the knee and cuff does not quite match with what I have measured across 10+ pairs of Gustin straight jeans.  Many of them have the cuff at 16.5 or 17 and zero of them have the cuff above the fit guide so I'd say they are actually centering around 17" +/- 0.5" rather than 17.5 +/- 0.5".

 

This is good.  I think they have the straight cut waist, rise, and thigh just right on the fit guide.  And I think the knee is good at 17,5 but with the cuff at 16.5, tapered slightly by 1" from the knee.  I guess maybe its not technically correct to have any taper from knee to cuff on a "straight" but I do prefer that look.

 

[edit: these numbers and my observations about the fit guide apply for the 33.  I have no idea if they have the proportions right or how the actual delivered products are holding to spec across the full size range]


Edited by mountainman3520 - 11/17/15 at 10:25am
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I prefer the traditional left-pocket OCBD design

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Originally Posted by andermt View Post

When you guys talk about jeans stretching back to the original size, do you actually stretch them, if so how, by hand or using another method?

Usually a pair of Raw denim will stretch as much as an inch+. It sometimes can take up to 30 + wears to get the full stretch. Gustin offers so many different denims so each one will act differently.
But you should be able to button the top and wear but if the fit is tight give it time.
Washing (I only hand wash and hang dry) may tighten them up again but they should stretch out quickly once Broken in.
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Originally Posted by Medoc View Post
but I've seen thinner men who most likely were in drama class in high school with the slim pants and they look very appropriate. 

Uh, what? Can we stop with the not-so-subtle-homophobia?

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