Man I wish they had a tapered fit. I would be all over that 21oz.... or even the zimb loomies. EIther is a good deal (the 21oz is a killer one) but I just don't need any more jeans and have really come to prefer a higher rise/tapered fit
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Gustin - Official Affiliate Thread - Page 489post #7322 of 1021711/14/15 at 9:58ampost #7323 of 1021711/14/15 at 10:07ampost #7324 of 1021711/14/15 at 10:22ampost #7325 of 1021711/14/15 at 10:58am
With regard to stretch, completely depends on the denim regardless of weight. My IH 21's, raw 19's, etc. stretched an inch in waste (or more). That being said, my Gustin heavier weights are much more stubborn as they appear to be a much tighter weave (e.g., japan 17s, zim 18's, etc.). Those 21's being offered is a no brainer. Pretty sweet deal.post #7326 of 1021711/14/15 at 11:03amQuote:So would you recommend sizing up for 21 that are being offered at the moment.Originally Posted by Jdub6
With regard to stretch, completely depends on the denim regardless of weight. My IH 21's, raw 19's, etc. stretched an inch in waste (or more). That being said, my Gustin heavier weights are much more stubborn as they appear to be a much tighter weave (e.g., japan 17s, zim 18's, etc.). Those 21's being offered is a no brainer. Pretty sweet deal.post #7327 of 1021711/14/15 at 11:17amQuote:
Well:), it also depends on what you want in fit. While the stretch is more stubborn such as with the zim 18's slim, I did eventually get an 1" stretch in the waste (34 slims from 34.5" to 35.5"-they luckily measured on point and not small). These don't appear to be like their "Beast" offering which appeared to be wise to go true to size in waste as stretch was minimal and no rec. to size up (as the ZIM 18s also). I would for what it's worth would get waste size expecting at most an inch stretch in waste. Can be a crap shoot though as I've returned my share of Gs as they measured too small:) Hope this helps.post #7328 of 1021711/14/15 at 11:21amQuote:Thank you, well I took the size the guide recommended after measuring my other jeans. And hope fully they stretch & it works out.Originally Posted by Jdub6
Well:), it also depends on what you want in fit. While the stretch is more stubborn such as with the zim 18's slim, I did eventually get an 1" stretch in the waste (34 slims from 34.5" to 35.5"-they luckily measured on point and not small). These don't appear to be like their "Beast" offering which appeared to be wise to go true to size in waste as stretch was minimal and no rec. to size up (as the ZIM 18s also). I would for what it's worth would get waste size expecting at most an inch stretch in waste. Can be a crap shoot though as I've returned my share of Gs as they measured too small:) Hope this helps.post #7329 of 1021711/14/15 at 12:06pmpost #7330 of 1021711/14/15 at 12:09pmpost #7331 of 1021711/14/15 at 5:30pm
Have a couple of really heavy Ralph Lauren Rugby flannels that I love and had been looking at some of the recent Heavier Gustin flannels but didn't see any I was willing to bite the bullet on until I saw the grey/black flannelpost #7332 of 1021711/14/15 at 10:21pm
Even when properly within spec, Gustin jeans have a +/- 0.5" tolerance around the fit guide. So if the guide says waist of my 33 jeans is 33.5, it can vary between 33 and 34 and still be correctly sized. I definitely notice this variation of 1" across my (many) Gustin jeans, and I know they are within those limits because I measure each before wearing. The ones that are at 33" and less stretchy can be so tight I can barely button them the first wear. One time I even popped the button off a 33 slim when I took a breath! That's tight. Those really tight ones eventually stretch to perfection but it takes a few days (weeks?) of suffering. The ones that are 34 feel perfect on the first wear and then stretch to being a bit more lose than ideal and do better with a belt (or after a few big meals).
If I sized down to 32 then the variation would force me to return half the pants because I couldn't even get them buttoned. I guess I could return half the 33's even though they are within spec just because they are not tight enough, but I don't feel comfortable returning them when they are within spec. And I usually love the fabric and can't be parted from it.
I look at this fit variation as just part of the Gustin experience. In a store I often grab a few of the same model and select the one that fits most perfectly which essentially achieves fit down to < 0.5" even though the mainstream brands have just as much variation as Gustin. Being able to try in the store and cherry pick the perfect variation has its advantages.
My recommendation is to find the right Gustin size that is centered so you can live with the +/- 0.5" and I've found their consistency and quality control to be good enough that you won't need to return them.
I've never done this yet as I machine wash my Gustins on delicate cold and then hang dry, but if I really needed to shrink 0.5" because it stretched more than I liked, I bet I could hit it in the dryer for 15 minutes, measuring the waist every 5 minutes to make sure I didn't overachieve.
There isn't anything practical that can be done if they sew up small and you've biased your size selection toward the tight end other than return them, which sucks after waiting 3+ months. I saw one guy posting photos of a waist stretcher! hahaha
I think its better to shoot for the center of your wearable range and have a high acceptance rate expecting realistic variation.
So I will now put my money where my mouth is and go order a 33 in the Japan 21 oz. But I think I'll go with the regular rather than the slim cut. Not sure I could survive breaking in that monster in slim. I enjoy having a few Gustin's in slim for when I'm feeling trendy but my more collectable denim that I want to wear for 10 years due to ultra awesome fabric or nice aging I order in regular cut. I suspect the Gustin slim cut is a bit too slim in the knees/calfs and a bit too low rise to stay fashionable for 5+ years so I don't want my beloved irreplaceable pairs of jeans to suffer a premature fate. Time will tell.post #7333 of 1021711/14/15 at 11:13pm
Ordered my Japan 21 oz and the % funded didn't even go up by 1%. I guess that means there are >100 available. That explains why this attractive deal has not yet fully funded. Unusually large batch size planned.
Does anyone own and have comments on #118 The Heavyweight? Its Japanese 23 oz so even more heavy than this #265 Japan 21. I've been wanting to try an ultra heavy denim and almost backed the 23 oz last time it posted but then chickened out. Also the price was steep at $197 vs. $115 for the 21 oz.post #7334 of 1021711/15/15 at 7:09amWifey threw a pair of my N&F never washed prior 13oz in the dryer for the full 40 mins with a bunch if kids stuff.
Took up a Half inch in the waist. Although an accident it worked out get and now fits better. I'm sure it will stretch out again.
But I will treat these like beaters and wash/dry them if the fit stays the course.
I also have dried Gustin heavy chinos with shink success. They sewed up within spec but were a hair large. Now perfect.post #7335 of 1021711/15/15 at 10:39am
My fiance surprised me w/ a pair of the Japan Olive Selvedge Chinos. Look, feel and fit great.
Fit: went w/ a 33 straight and these fit just right. I have a 32 straight in the Italy Indigo Cashmere denim and these fit my athletic frame (5'10", 175 lbs) a bit snugly, particularly in the thighs. I'm much happier w/ the fit of the 33 straight chinos. I don't care much for the uber-slim fit that seems en vogue these days. A pair of pants that I can move in and not feel like I'm wearing compression garments is much more to my liking.
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