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post #10126 of 10574
I think we all know if you decide to go in on something with Gustin you will get a great product eventually. Unforeseen events and production issues happen. Communication is hard when there's not a lot of staff and they offer a shit ton of products.

I'm not saying it's right but it just seems to be what it is.
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@Medoc I hear you, waiting eight months for a pair of sneakers is totally unacceptable.
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I've been waiting on a pair of black high tops since March.  I think I could have learned the trade and fabricated my own pair during the wait time.  I knew what I was getting into with Gustin but the deliberately misleading and inaccurate updates really frustrate me.  They promise delivery dates that don't occur, they promise to provide updates by a certain date and leave you hanging for a month, blame delay on factory shutdowns that they should have factored into their delivery estimate, etc... I've seen lemonade stands run by third graders with more organization and reliability.  I'm going to rock the hell out of the shoes when they finally do arrive though.  If Gustin delivers by the end of the year to make it an even 9 months, I'll consider it divine intervention. 

Did they refuse your refund request?

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Did they refuse your refund request?


Didn't ask for one.  I like their sneakers a good amount and the width of the shoes has been a real find for me.  My grievances are not enough to warrant that request, considering how much I like the product.  As @justinkapur mentioned, its just kind of something you may need to be prepared for with Gustin.  They still usually put out a nice product when they arrive, and this extended wait has actually been far longer than anything with them before.  Just wanted to mention that I don't think it's right they offer misleading info or leave you hanging on an update when the previous update explicitly mentioned they'd provide one.  I have other shoes at the moment so I'm not walking around barefoot. 

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I was tempted to order the new leather dopp kit in CXL#8.

 

But then I looked at the dimensions.  4"x4"x8" = 128 in^3 is a small bag.  My others are more like 5"x5"x10" = 250 in^3, or larger.  That's about half the normal size.  I don't think I could fit my electric shaver or electric toothbrush in their little travel cases.

 

These toiletry travel bags are a fairly standard size.  I wonder what Gustin was thinking making a miniature version?  Less leather to hit a price point?  That seems silly since many people won't notice the dimensions but may return when they receive a smaller than expected bag.

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Can anyone chime in on this fit question? I am interested in ordering the selvedge twill chinos #16.  I measured a pair of jeans according to the fit guide and got 39".  I always buy 36" waist pants/jeans.  I believe (based on my 39" measurement) that I should order a size 38.  Does that sound right?

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I strongly recommend doing a few washes on Gustin sanfordized denim before hemming.  I'm consistently seeing ~1-2" of length shrinkage even washing on gentle cold and hang drying inside.  It's much more than I would have guessed but it seems to be holding true across numerous pair.  I wear a Gustin 33 and need a 32" inseam for no cuffing, so with the spec length of 34" and maybe an extra inch over spec at delivery, I start out with a double cuff.  After the first wash I only need to single cuff.  After a few washes I'm thinking I might not hem some of these at all and just stack them a bit.

 

If I had hemmed immediately I would have ruined these jeans.

 

 

Crap.  I should have read this 2 days ago.  Just dropped some jeans off at the tailor to get them hemmed.  I'm new to raw jeans and had never worn them before, nor washed them.  I don't like cuffs so I wanted them hemmed.  

 

It seems like there's so much info out there as to what you need to do to these jeans.  Some say just wear them.  Some say soak first.  Some say do full wash first.  I can't find any definitive answer.

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Crap.  I should have read this 2 days ago.  Just dropped some jeans off at the tailor to get them hemmed.  I'm new to raw jeans and had never worn them before, nor washed them.  I don't like cuffs so I wanted them hemmed.  

 

It seems like there's so much info out there as to what you need to do to these jeans.  Some say just wear them.  Some say soak first.  Some say do full wash first.  I can't find any definitive answer.


That's because different people have different preferences on how they want to treat these jeans with regards to fit and fade potential.  I also don't like cuffs.  I think you should have done a hot soak for 45 min - hour, hang dry.  Then have them hemmed about .5" -1" longer than perfect for you.  After one delicate cycle, cold/cold, wash with jeans turned inside out and hang dry, they would have been perfect and length would have remained constant from there. 

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Can anyone chime in on this fit question? I am interested in ordering the selvedge twill chinos #16.  I measured a pair of jeans according to the fit guide and got 39".  I always buy 36" waist pants/jeans.  I believe (based on my 39" measurement) that I should order a size 38.  Does that sound right?


Yes it sounds right.  For Chino's they only offer size 36 and size 38 in your size range.  Gustin uses less vanity sizing than many other known lines so a size 38 in the waist is going to fit similarly to a size 36 from a different store.  You're size 38 straight fit jeans should have right around a 39" waist measurement according to the fit guide, making 38 the clear choice for you. 

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Yes it sounds right.  For Chino's they only offer size 36 and size 38 in your size range.  Gustin uses less vanity sizing than many other known lines so a size 38 in the waist is going to fit similarly to a size 36 from a different store.  You're size 38 straight fit jeans should have right around a 39" waist measurement according to the fit guide, making 38 the clear choice for you. 

Great, much appreciated.

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That's because different people have different preferences on how they want to treat these jeans with regards to fit and fade potential.  I also don't like cuffs.  I think you should have done a hot soak for 45 min - hour, hang dry.  Then have them hemmed about .5" -1" longer than perfect for you.  After one delicate cycle, cold/cold, wash with jeans turned inside out and hang dry, they would have been perfect and length would have remained constant from there. 

 

 

Thanks, I'll remember that going forwards.  This is probably a dumb question, but when you say hot soak, do you do that with the jeans by themselves or are you wearing them while sitting in a bathtub? 

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Any word on t shirt shrinkage? that slub 3 pack is calling my name... but I don't have any of their t shirts and don't wanna make assumptions about fit if they're just gonna go on and shrink. those Ls would fit me perfectly if they didn't shrink at all, but I don't know about that...

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That's because different people have different preferences on how they want to treat these jeans with regards to fit and fade potential.  I also don't like cuffs.  I think you should have done a hot soak for 45 min - hour, hang dry.  Then have them hemmed about .5" -1" longer than perfect for you.  After one delicate cycle, cold/cold, wash with jeans turned inside out and hang dry, they would have been perfect and length would have remained constant from there. 

 

It sounds like you are seeing a similar amount of length shrinkage as I see after a few cold delicate wash cycles with hang drying.  I think you are right that this sequence would be pretty safe for hemming and avoids having to wear cuffed pants if that conflicts with someone's style.

 

I've been wearing mine raw maybe 10 times before the first wash in the machine on cold delicate.  So I have to wear them cuffed during that period.  And then maybe also cuffed with one roll for another 10 wears until the second wash.  At that point I either continue to wear them with one roll or let them stack.  If they are made to spec on length I don't think I need any rolls eventually but many are a bit over spec on inseam.

 

Given how much these shrink in length maybe Gustin should add 2" to the spec inseam lengths so everyone must hem, otherwise thin people over 6' are hosed.  I think all "one length fits (doesn't fit) all" pants should be at least 34" inseam after all shrinkage.  So the fact that Gustin size 33 has a spec inseam of 34" and then shrinks 2" eventually must be causing problems for people, or at least helping them prepare for the next flood.

 

What's the logic of the pre-wear hot soak instead of just cold or warm washing in the machine before the first wear?  What do you believe the hot soak accomplishes?  Better removal of starch before wearing?  Rapid initial shrinkage to allow immediate tailoring before first wear?  Removing some dye to decrease crocking?

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Thanks, I'll remember that going forwards.  This is probably a dumb question, but when you say hot soak, do you do that with the jeans by themselves or are you wearing them while sitting in a bathtub? 


Not a dumb question at all.  Many of us have ruined multiple pairs of raw denim in figuring out what works for us.  With sanforized denim, you definitely don't need to wear in the bathtub (that always seems so extreme to me).  Those have been pre-treated and shrinkage is supposed to be minimal.  I honestly don't even put them in the bathtub.  I just fill my laundry sink with hot water and submerge the denim, holding them down with unopened juice bottles or something similar. 

 

@mountainman3520 you pretty much hit on my logic for prewear hot soak.  Removal of excess indigo/starch, and mainly to mitigate future shrinkage.  Since the denim will only hit cold water after the initial soak, something about going hot water first sets my mind at ease.  It's like inducing the maximum possible shrinkage without an initial wash cycle.  Raw denim will always fade with wear regardless of how we obsess over treating it so I've been experiencing fine fade results with that method. 

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Looking forward to seeing the Harrington jackets this Wednesday. I'm hoping for a tan/sand colour.

 

On an unrelated note, has anyone got pictures of the camel herringbone CPO from winter 2014? I'd like to see how that turned out, but couldn't find any images.

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