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Sample shoe - the creative process

 

Here it is. This shoe is an Adelaide, albeit with extra punching, the idea being to test the water and see what would appeal to customers. As mentioned above we are producing an Adelaide on the 337 last as part of our mainline but wanted to push the boat out a little for our Heritage Collection shoe. The sample is in burgundy and we will make the next one in brown (say) with punching to match the Thomas model, together with a bevel waist and all the quality details of our Heritage shoes. What do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am inclined to agree with that! It seems to take 'black shoe' into a whole new category in itself. I have to imagine myself wearing one first though....

I haven't seen an example of a new pair with fading on the entire shoes yet. The Fawley (way back in the thread) has no fading on the vamp, was there a reason to it?

I think an all over faded shoe would look a bit odd. The ones I posted earlier with fading on the toe and other part of the shoe as well I wear with a grey chalk stripe suit I have not tried them with a blue suit yet. I have also not tried them with a black and white hounds tooth suit as I think one extravagant item per ensemble is enough.
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I am inclined to agree with that! It seems to take 'black shoe' into a whole new category in itself. I have to imagine myself wearing one first though....

I haven't seen an example of a new pair with fading on the entire shoes yet. The Fawley (way back in the thread) has no fading on the vamp, was there a reason to it?

 

nutcracker,

 

They're remarkably easy to wear and work in situations that call for either black or brown shoes, particularly if the vamp is faded too. The lack of fading on the vamp of the Fawley was entirely my fault (they're my shoes). I wanted something that would be very subtle, conveying just a hint of age, and the fading I asked for does just that for me. We can fade the vamp no problem.

 

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nutcracker,

They're remarkably easy to wear and work in situations that call for either black or brown shoes, particularly if the vamp is faded too. The lack of fading on the vamp of the Fawley was entirely my fault (they're my shoes). I wanted something that would be very subtle, conveying just a hint of age, and the fading I asked for does just that for me. We can fade the vamp no problem.

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Thanks.
The greyish~tobacco color is certainly distinct and quite lovely.
So much possibilities (subtle vs heavily aged etc...)
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I think an all over faded shoe would look a bit odd. The ones I posted earlier with fading on the toe and other part of the shoe as well I wear with a grey chalk stripe suit I have not tried them with a blue suit yet. I have also not tried them with a black and white hounds tooth suit as I think one extravagant item per ensemble is enough.

 

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Thanks.
The greyish~tobacco color is certainly distinct and quite lovely.
So much possibilities (subtle vs heavily aged etc...)

 

Quite some choices with the fading. My preference is that less is more but plenty of people seem to be able to rock the heavily faded look.

 

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Sample shoe - the creative process

Here it is. This shoe is an Adelaide, albeit with extra punching, the idea being to test the water and see what would appeal to customers. As mentioned above we are producing an Adelaide on the 337 last as part of our mainline but wanted to push the boat out a little for our Heritage Collection shoe. The sample is in burgundy and we will make the next one in brown (say) with punching to match the Thomas model, together with a bevel waist and all the quality details of our Heritage shoes. What do you think?

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An RTW shoe that will inherit the 'Thomas model's DNA deserves nothing less smile.gif
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An RTW shoe that will inherit the 'Thomas model's DNA deserves nothing less smile.gif

 

Absolutely!

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Sample shoe - the creative process

Here it is. This shoe is an Adelaide, albeit with extra punching, the idea being to test the water and see what would appeal to customers. As mentioned above we are producing an Adelaide on the 337 last as part of our mainline but wanted to push the boat out a little for our Heritage Collection shoe. The sample is in burgundy and we will make the next one in brown (say) with punching to match the Thomas model, together with a bevel waist and all the quality details of our Heritage shoes. What do you think?
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Just my opinion, obviously, but the things that I think make Eustace Tilly's version better are:

  • The way that the broguing around the laces curves at the topline and then swoops down around the rear quarter.
  • No heel counter.
  • The squarer toe.
  • The larger punched holes in the broguing around the laces and topline.
  • No pinking. I think it looks cleaner.

These are the pictures that stood out to me as showing the contrast:







In terms of color, I think this would look great in something between burgundy and oxblood, like the G&G vintage rioja.
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Just my opinion, obviously, but the things that I think make Eustace Tilly's version better are:
 
  • The way that the broguing around the laces curves at the topline and then swoops down around the rear quarter.
  • No heel counter.
  • The squarer toe.
  • The larger punched holes in the broguing around the laces and topline.
  • No pinking. I think it looks cleaner.

These are the pictures that stood out to me as showing the contrast:







In terms of color, I think this would look great in something between burgundy and oxblood, like the G&G vintage rioja.

 

Mr.Six,

 

Many thanks for he input it really helps with the creative process. We will look at the brogueing and the toe shape in particular. 

 

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I second the toe shape and color suggestion above.

 

It also looks like the heel is a bit taller in Eustace Tilley's version.  I own several C&J and conservative heels has always been a complaint of mine.

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Just had a look at the photos above and they're awful, so I've taken some in natural light and they're marginally better.




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I think these look great.

I don't know if I prefer just the toe cap fading or the shoe previously posted with the heel counters and facing also faded. At this point, it all looks good to me!

However, I would have classed these as adelaides not thomas brogues. Clearly you're the experts here, but I was (perhaps incorrectly) expecting the facing seam to sweep lower towards the back of the heel as per Eustace's bespoke pair.
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I think these look great.

I don't know if I prefer just the toe cap fading or the shoe previously posted with the heel counters and facing also faded. At this point, it all looks good to me!

However, I would have classed these as adelaides not thomas brogues. Clearly you're the experts here, but I was (perhaps incorrectly) expecting the facing seam to sweep lower towards the back of the heel as per Eustace's bespoke pair.

 

jji5000,

 

You're right, Eustace's shoes do have a lower sweep, we'll look at what we can do with this and come back to you. I'm the lucky owner of both pairs and like the fading on each for different reasons. One of the great things about the fading process is you can have more or less, it's your call. Many thanks for the input.

 

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I second the toe shape and color suggestion above.

 

It also looks like the heel is a bit taller in Eustace Tilley's version.  I own several C&J and conservative heels has always been a complaint of mine.

jssdc,

 

I can't say for sure but I suspect the heel is not as tall as it looks, the way the waist is bevelled sometimes accentuates the heel height. Take your point entirely about heels though and will factor this in.

 

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I second the toe shape and color suggestion above.

It also looks like the heel is a bit taller in Eustace Tilley's version.  I own several C&J and conservative heels has always been a complaint of mine.

I like both toe shapes as it goes but I'm finding it nigh on impossible to critique any aspect of design, proportion or execution as regards Eustace's bespoke creation. The colour is also quite beautiful but in black calf with fading worship2.gif

Agree re C&J heel height...far too low.
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I like both toe shapes as it goes but I'm finding it nigh on impossible to critique any aspect of design, proportion or execution as regards Eustace's bespoke creation. The colour is also quite beautiful but in black calf with fading worship2.gif

Agree re C&J heel height...far too low.

 

jjl5000,

 

Hard to argue with.

 

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Photo mega post - Part 1, Henry Maxwell country shoes and boots

 

We thought it would be a good time to consolidate the Foster & Son/Henry Maxwell thread by introducing all our models to you over two or three posts. Foster & Son and Henry Maxwell are sister companies with Maxwell, founded in 1750, being the older by 90 years. The Maxwell tradition is in riding boots and general country footwear and we supplied not only the great and the good but also many, many officers in the British army during both world wars. The emphasis is on traditional English country boots and shoes.

 

Our Henry Maxwell range of country shoes and boots all perform superbly in winter, with Dainite soles available on every model. We’ve even included our Wentworth golf shoe, available in red, white and blue or black and white - we dare you to ask us to make the red, white and blue for you!

 

Oakley Chelsea Boot, in Mahogany Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole, F fitting, 6184 last, £385 incl. VAT

 

 

 

Ranger, in Mahogany Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole or Double Leather Sole, F fitting, 6184 last, £365 incl. VAT

 

 

 

Scout, in Mahogany Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole, F fitting, 6184 last, £365 incl. VAT

 

 

 

Hurlingham Chukka, in Mahogany Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole, F fitting, 6184 last, £385 incl. VAT

 

 

Radley, in Mahogany Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole, F fitting, 6184 last, £385 incl. VAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crendon, in Walnut Grain Country Calf, Dainite Sole, G fitting, 6184 last, £485 incl. VAT

 

 

 

Wentworth, Black and White, F fitting, 6184 last, £510 incl. VAT

 

 

Wentworth, Red White and Blue, F fitting, 6184 last, £££ ask, we dare you!

 

 

 

 

Please PM us if you need any more information.

 

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