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Originally Posted by Butler View Post

Simonnet Goddard chambray bespoke tunic shirts with detachable collars by Sean O'Flynn of Sackville St.


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That's a nice looking shirt, alliswell.

 

Butler, wow, detachable collars. That's some crazy stuff. I didn't think anyone still made those.

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Any custom shirtmaker can make them. I had one made, and don't recommend them - don't look that great and the novelty wears off quickly.
 

 

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Sorry you dont like them - perhaps you dont realize that they need to be washed/starched/polished by a special laundry of which only a handfull excists to-day - there is certainly no novelty aspect involved!

Even the best shirtmakers (including mine; Turnbull & Asser/ Sean O'Flynn) will (hard pressed) admit, that there is no way they can produce an attached collar that looks as good as for instance this!

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Your collar looks quite nice Butler. I am aware of their requirements, and did send them to a special laundry. However, I personally never found them to look that great and reverted back to my trusty attached collars.

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Sounds like you just don't like the look of a heavily startched collar. That's fine, but Butler is right that you can't achieve that level of stiffness from an attached collar.

Personally, I think that white shirts beg for clean/stiff collars, and soft white collars look weak and frumpy. Of course, I'm not going to go through the headache of maintaining detachable collars, so I would rather avoid wearing white shirts to the extent possible.
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Originally Posted by Sterling Gillette View Post

Butler, nice work on those tunic shirts! I had some made some time ago and like them a lot, though I would not go through the trouble of maintaining an entire wardrobe of them.

Tell me more about this detachable collar concept.


Have them too, but only use them with dinner suits (incl. soft detachable turndown collars), but may get made some for daytime wear too.
But then I'm a psycholosgically flexible perv, I like the stuffy crisp look of stiff detachables but also ultra soft collars with unfused r even no inlays...
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i can make an attached collar that is as stiff as a removable collar.
i did this for a broadway shows that did not want to deal with the removable collars
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i can make an attached collar that is as stiff as a removable collar.
i did this for a broadway shows that did not want to deal with the removable collars

With respect Sir, This is simply not possible!

First of all; how do you starch the attached collar and not the shirt - if you tried to it would be flat out impossible to put the shirt on!

Secondly, as mentioned above; the collars are not only heavely starched (in my case "Toastmaster Special Service" at Barkers in England), but also polished on age old gas fired equipment!

Thirdly, it is not only a question of the treatment of the collar, but also the way it "sits" on the neck, that makes the difference!

As a side note to you mentioning show business; my esteemed collegue, world famous Las Vegas magician Lance Burton, once told me that he got so fed up finding a special laundry for his stiff evening suit collars, that he cut one out of a plastic milk carton. He used that one for many years at his show at the Monte Carlo!!!!bigstar[1].gif (it looks like it too:nodding:

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i can achieve the stiffness.
i can not polish and get the high gloss
so no, it will not be the same as yours,
but you are a rare person who wants to go to the trouble of replicating a look that was popular 80-90 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Shirtmaven View Post

i can achieve the stiffness.
i can not polish and get the high gloss
so no, it will not be the same as yours,
but you are a rare person who wants to go to the trouble of replicating a look that was popular 80-90 years ago.

Ok, I think we are in agreement although I may not be as rare as you think: It is estimated that the world market is somewhere in the region of 65,000 - 80,000 new collars sold every year, and I'm not responsible for all of them!bigstar[1].gif !!

Here's a pic of the polishing equipment:


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As to buying separate collars, here is my experience.

I tried them. I got it of my system.

Unless you have the collar highly starched and polished, a soft detachable collar will look no different from a regular one. The old world look can only be accomplished with the starch and polishing.

I found the collars uncomfortable with the collar pins poking me in the throat and back of the neck. I also had one shirt where the collar did not align perfectly with the shirt band.
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Unfolded, unironed, wrinkly linen

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Very nice, Kaplan.
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I actually blame you for this one.



(Thanks for the inspiration biggrin.gif )
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Same fabric as mine?

If it is: I thought ironing it would be nearly impossible, but it's actually quite easy.
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Edited by Louis XIV - 10/12/11 at 12:01pm
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Thanks Louis.

NOBD, I don't know who made the linen (it's a Sartorio Napoli OTR) and so far I've only worn it unironed, like here. Maybe I'll iron it one day...

Btw, I'm guessing you'll enjoy the two books I recently posted in 'Recently Purchased'. I suspect you have at least one of them.
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Btw, I'm guessing you'll enjoy the two books I recently posted in 'Recently Purchased'. I suspect you have at least one of them.

Neither, actually, but they caught my attention. I remember a Claxton book on Chet Baker which I really liked.
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Interesting thing about the other book, it's not about iconic people but about iconic pieces of men's wear - their origins etc.

Sorry for the derail, hopefully someone has a nice folded shirt to bring us back on track smile.gif
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Interesting thing about the other book, it's not about iconic people but about iconic pieces of men's wear - their origins etc.

Sorry for the derail, hopefully someone has a nice folded shirt to bring us back on track smile.gif

Yes me too.

I need that book.
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