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What you guys think of a burgundy tie (garbadine) with a navy suit and brown oxfords? My company color is burgundy/red and kind of want to dress for the occasion. Otherwise, was considering a steel blue tie with black cap toe. Shirt in both cases would be light blues of sorts
Assuming you mean grenadine , I'd go with the first combo of navy suit, burgundy tie, brown shoes. Pretty foolproof and conservative, yet can still look really, really nice with the right components.
I got curious to see what sort of consensus developed about the Five Essential Ties. To date, nine folks have listed their top fives. Awarding a point per vote, the ties sorted out as follows:
(the colors listed are for solids unless otherwise noted. Almost all listed solids were for knits/grenadine)
Navy 8 votes
Gray or B/W micro/patterned/PoW/Shepard’s check 5
Navy pin dot 4
Silver/gray (solid) 3
Ancient madder 1
Bow tie 1
Mid blue ½
Some also mentioned extras to round out a top 10, including navy ground neat/small pattern, burgundy pin dots, pink diamond weave, lite blue, and shantungs.
This was a few month back, but Drake's burgundy grenadine tie
Looks a little long, but I tied it too low I think? Length is 58" and I am approx. 5'9 to 5'10 =S
Curious what you guys thought about the new grenadine offering at The Knottery; would picking up the navy, black, and silver be too much i.e. should I try varying the offerings by different makers instead, or go with the basics at a great price from a great shop? $40 to cover the basics is not too bad is what I am thinking...
What I already own:
(also have this same knit tie in purple/eggplant, green is suppose to be forest green--lightning making it appear brighter with blue hue. Both from Tie Bar)
Neats print tie by The Knottery
and the photoed Drake's above
Photo courtesy of the Knottery
Edited by gettoasty - 2/12/14 at 11:42pm
Are the friendly with shipping to the US i.e. customs?
Appreciate the comments, maybe I pickup 1 or 2 as staples before venturing out to other makers.
OTO hand, people who have chosen the much faster (and more expensive) airmail option (DHL I think) say that sometimes they are charged customs fees and sometimes aren't.
As a newbie I took the following approach.
1. Tried to figure out the color scheme that worked well for my complexion and contrast.
I have light brown skin (and warm toned). So most of my shirts are a shade of blue and I prefer the oxford cloth due to it's texture instead of plain broad cloth.
I have one white oxford shirt and one ecru/offwhite shirt.
I have a midnight-navy-blue suit and a black suit and the latter I only wear for funerals.
2. Taking the above into account and the fact that my eyes are dark brown with a deep blue outline around it,
I went for,
Midnight blue navy, navy blue with white pin dots, navy blue with white stripes, burgandy (and a black tie mostly for funerals).
3. Bought them from tiebar.com .. so in case I made a mistake it's not an expensive one:)
Once I figure out exactly what works for me, I will invest in some good ties from Sam Hober.
4. I prefer solids or a very small pattern as I'm on the thin side and use 3 inch ties.
I want to try brown and a grey and will again experiment with tiebar.com ties and see how it goes.
Following Will's advice from A Suitable Wardrobe, and the guys at Put This On, here is my "two dozen" tie wardrobe:
21 ties shown here, not pictured are three I am selling. 20 of the ties have been purchased in the last year.
Knits, Woolens, and Grenadines from left to right:
- Navy silk and linen from Nordstrom (lone holdout from previous ties, will eventually sell and replace), $15
- Kent Wang 3" Green Grenadine, $75 (Suit only tie)
- Kent Wang 3" Burgundy Grenadine, $75 (Suit only tie)
- Land's End 2.5" Red Silk Knit, Ebay $7.32 including shipping
- Nordstrom 2.5" Black Silk Knit, MSRP $80, paid $15 at the Rack, will be go to funeral/memorial service tie along with still-to-be purchased black grenadine
- Nordstrom 2.5" Navy Silk Knit, MSRP $80, paid $15 at the Rack, was going to go with KW for $65, but this will do for now
- Unknown Brand, made in USA, 2.5" Dark Brown Virgin Wool Knit, $11 Ebay including shipping
- Christopher Bernard (?) 3" Wool Woven, $6.99 Ebay including shipping
Suit only ties (grenadines should be here):
- Kent Wang 3" Black and white shepherd's check, $85 (Worn once, reserved for attending and officiating weddings)
- Kent Wang 3" Navy pindot, $85
- Berman-Bach 3.25" Navy with red pindot, $3.58 Ebay including shipping
- Marshall Fields 3.25" Navy, red and white foulard, $6.49 Ebay including shipping
- Brooks Brothers 3.125" Brown, blue, and cream foulard, $16 Ebay including shipping
- E. Marinella 3.25" Navy, light blue, and orange macclesfield (foulard, difference between?), Ebay new $74 including shipping
- Andrews Ties, 2.75" Orange and beige flower pattern, Ebay $6.99 including shipping
Repp/Regimental Ties, will likely only wear with a blazer as I don't like how they look with suits
- Nordstrom 1901 (i.e. cheap and aimed at young men) 2.75" Bright Green, navy and white, $11 at the Rack, originally $40ish. Not a quality tie, but needed at least one bright \
- Nobbson 3.25" Green, navy, red, and yellow, $11 Ebay including shipping
- Brooks Brothers 3.25" Red, light blue, and white, $9.99 Ebay including shipping
- Robert Todd 3.375" (my only tie over 3.25", Burgundy, Navy, and cream, Ebay $0.00
- Chaps Ralph Lauren (made in USA so older) 3.25" Navy, Bergundy, and cream $11.99 Ebay including shipping
- Brooks Brothers 3.25" Navy, Goldenrod, and red, $16.50 Ebay including shipping.
I am looking into getting a few more woolens, though the season is almost over, and a few more silk knits in blue, pink, or dark purple. I had ordered a 3" Navy grenadine from Kent Wang that I ended up returning as I wanted a darker navy, but not quite midnight, along the lines of what Sam Hober offers. Down the road I may add a few cotton and linen ties, but as these are only wearable in the summer, they are not as useful. I have realized that knits are the most versatile as they can be work with suits, blazers, and odd jackets including tweed. The grenadines are my favorite ties, but limited in use and somewhat fragile as they snag quite easily. I have also realized that 3.25" is the widest I want to go at 6"2 and 164 lbs., and 30 years old. At the beginning of rebuilding this "two dozen" tie wardrobe, I only bought higher quality ties, but then realized that the cheaper ties have a purpose at this stage in my overall larger wardrobe building, as I have had to start over completely after getting down to this weight after being as overweight as 225 lbs., and at this limited budget stage as a doctoral student. Ebay ties are a cheaper way to add color and variety to my limited wardrobe, than for example, getting a second suit (first is a KW navy custom) or additional odd jackets.
I also like the two dozen number, and am unlikely to go over three dozen in the future. Cheaper ties will eventually be replaced by better quality ones after the other wardrobe needs have been met, including beefing up my very basic (five) pocket square collection, and the necessity of getting custom shirts because of my build and height. Lastly, I like the idea of more sober ties with a busier pocket square that has a non-repeating pattern a-la many of KW's. Thoughts, criticisms, your "two dozen"?
Nice collection. Obviously put together with thought and with a good eye for bargains.
However, I would respectfully disagree with the notion that grenadines are for "suits only." I particularly find the solids work well with patterns found in many sport coats and the shirts with which some are paired.