^ My concern with this is the quality of the leather and whether anybody knowledgeable will be able to inspect what goes to C&J and determine that it is of suitable quality. I'd also be concerned that C&J will disclaim responsibility for any defects having to do with quality of the leather. Sorry, this is the lawyer in me worrying out loud.
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Crockett & Jones MTO Central - Page 65post #962 of 61992/14/14 at 1:59pmThread Starterpost #963 of 61992/14/14 at 2:01pmQuote:Originally Posted by DpprDr
I guess there is a shell, but not zug shortage. Although I have lots of love for Horween, I am also concerned about the shipping costs to get it across the pond. Leather quality is something I have no real experience with (besides, "oh, that's nice") and hopefully someone can provide information about weight and thickness.
A & A Crack zug is Horween. Are we checking with Horween directly in case buying direct from Horween and shipping to C&J is cheaper than buying from down the street at A & A Crack and paying whatever markup they have?post #964 of 61992/14/14 at 2:05pmQuote:
I think it makes sense to compare and since we don't know if either has limited quantity of zug, it would be good to have multiple options.post #965 of 61992/14/14 at 2:09pmQuote:
That makes sense. Could be Horween has additional colors as well?
I wonder if Horween sells individual pieces of zug and other leather. I've always wanted to do a personal project.post #966 of 61992/14/14 at 3:16pmQuote:
Judging from the price quoted by the local merchants, I'd be very surprised if having it sent from the States would work out cheaper.
As for concerns over the quality of the leather, it's an embossed, thick, waxy leather designed to take an absolute shoeing (with apologies!) and it's not going to be fine leather in any stretch of the imagination. I know the fella who manages C&J's MTO programme takes a lot of pride in what he does and I'm sure he would refuse to work with sub-standard materials because the end product would reflect badly on him...post #967 of 61992/14/14 at 3:57pmpost #968 of 61992/14/14 at 3:59pmpost #969 of 61992/14/14 at 5:29pmpost #970 of 61992/14/14 at 5:40pmpost #971 of 61992/14/14 at 11:42pm
Eagerly following the development here, especially since EG has decided not to work with other leathers than those that have been tested by their quality department.
Anyway, my two cents on the A. A. Crack vs. Horweens supply: To Horweens prices there's shipping to add, and maybe even taxes. A. A. Crack are located in Northampton, so they might save a bit on the shipping and just walk across the road with the zug (OK, having never been to Northampton I don't know how big the city is, but still…)
Good luck with it all!post #972 of 61992/15/14 at 3:56ampost #973 of 61992/16/14 at 12:13pm
Off the record, I have a feeling that it will be an uphill battle to get any kinda variation in the boot specs past the higher echelons of the company, but watch this space as I'm positioning it as being of massive PR value to the company...
To keep this thread going, below are two pairs of WW2 Lotus veldtschoen boots (the forerunner of the Snowdon and EG's Galway model) in zug leather that's in pretty good condition after 70ish years...this is the old Martin's zug, from the tannery with whom C&J did business back in the day.
Indestructible stuff. Forget shell, this is what you need for boots that are to really stand the test of time.
Note the full bellows tongue to make the boots capable of holding out water at a greater depth than a half-bellows tongue as now used instead.
The top pair are the boots I reach for first when conditions are truly atrocious. They're still on the original soles and were originally worn by a Czech officer fighting with the British Empire forces in WW2.post #974 of 61992/16/14 at 12:19pmpost #975 of 61992/16/14 at 12:26pmReturn Home
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