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post #5596 of 6054
I would at least consider brown dainite. I'd definitely want to avoid the ultra light color welt stitching, but I think the welt and edging on the Warlow are otherwise perfect.
post #5597 of 6054

Props to C&J for their willingness to do rare shell makeups without any hassle. Making Alden and others look bad.

 

Why spend $700-800 on a pair of aldens after waiting for 2 years when you can get something from C&J for less without all the hype and hassle? Really impressive.

 

Just a personal preference but I think the Sky 3 is a better template than the Lindrick if you guys are going for a wingtip boot.

post #5598 of 6054

Pull-tabs/No tabs?

 

If wheeling is possible with storm + dainite, would anyone not want it?

 

http://imgur.com/a/coNIR

 

That Lindrick GMTO is from earlier this year and has a storm welt + double leather sole and definitely has wheeling so it must have been doable at some point.

post #5599 of 6054
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Originally Posted by Manav Kapoor View Post
 

Pull-tabs/No tabs?

 

If wheeling is possible with storm + dainite, would anyone not want it?

 

http://imgur.com/a/coNIR

 

That Lindrick GMTO is from earlier this year and has a storm welt + double leather sole and definitely has wheeling so it must have been doable at some point.


Lauren told me quite confidently that the no wheeling with storm welt policy is set in stone by their factory director due to the fact that the wheeling machine is too big for storm welts and can damage the upper. I'm guessing this is a recent decision based on shoes getting ruined during production by wheeling a storm welt. If you look at pictures of recent and older boots from C&J's mainline that used to be storm welted with wheeling, they do not come that way any longer.

post #5600 of 6054
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Originally Posted by mdubya View Post
 


Lauren told me quite confidently that the no wheeling with storm welt policy is set in stone by their factory director due to the fact that the wheeling machine is too big for storm welts and can damage the upper. I'm guessing this is a recent decision based on shoes getting ruined during production by wheeling a storm welt. If you look at pictures of recent and older boots from C&J's mainline that used to be storm welted with wheeling, they do not come that way any longer.

 

That's logical  Looking at the older pictures, its evident that the imprints made are less substantial on wheeled + storm welt vs. wheeled + no storm welt.

 

Compare this:

 

 

with this:

 

post #5601 of 6054
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Originally Posted by mdubya View Post

Props to C&J for their willingness to do rare shell makeups without any hassle. Making Alden and others look bad.

Why spend $700-800 on a pair of aldens after waiting for 2 years when you can get something from C&J for less without all the hype and hassle? Really impressive.

Just a personal preference but I think the Sky 3 is a better template than the Lindrick if you guys are going for a wingtip boot.

Maybe Skye on the 325?
post #5602 of 6054
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Originally Posted by ennui View Post

I think a storm welt is the way to go on this boot. And I don't like the white stitching, so let's just nix that now please.

Nobody has an opinion on the eyelets?

EDIT: just saw Mr Clemson's response. OK, all eyelets works for me. I assume non-contrast?

What's the C&J name for the Lindrick, in case Lauren asks?

I actually would prefer a flat welt on this boot personally. I know it's a country boot but I wouldn't mind it being a bit sleeker and doubt the storm welt would serve much functional purpose since I have plenty of foul weather boots. I'll probably lose this battle and a storm welt isn't a deal breaker but a flat welt would be sweet.

Brown dainite is a good call and would look really nice. Please no white stitching.
post #5603 of 6054
What's the difference between Skye, Skye 2, and Skye 3? I can't tell the difference based on looking at pictures. Actually, now that I look at it, I think I prefer the Skye over the Lindrick. Everyone OK with changing this to one of the Skye variants?

I think a flat welt would look a bit off - but I want to make this happen so I'm actually OK either way.

What is "wheeling"?

And can I assume that non-contrast all-eyelets is fine, vs. e.g. blind eyelets or speed hooks or contrast eyelets?
post #5604 of 6054
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Originally Posted by ennui View Post

What's the difference between Skye, Skye 2, and Skye 3? I can't tell the difference based on looking at pictures. Actually, now that I look at it, I think I prefer the Skye over the Lindrick. Everyone OK with changing this to one of the Skye variants?

I think a flat welt would look a bit off - but I want to make this happen so I'm actually OK either way.

What is "wheeling"?

And can I assume that non-contrast all-eyelets is fine, vs. e.g. blind eyelets or speed hooks or contrast eyelets?

I think the only differences are the types of leather used (calf vs shell) on the various Skyes.

Wheeling is the "ridges" along the top of the welt.

I prefer a storm welt. Doubly so if we go with Dainite sole.

I prefer the aesthetics of the 325 last to the 335 (which the Skye is on). If we could get it on the 325 and everybody was OK with that, I would definitely prefer that.
post #5605 of 6054
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Originally Posted by ennui View Post

What's the difference between Skye, Skye 2, and Skye 3? I can't tell the difference based on looking at pictures. Actually, now that I look at it, I think I prefer the Skye over the Lindrick. Everyone OK with changing this to one of the Skye variants?

I think a flat welt would look a bit off - but I want to make this happen so I'm actually OK either way.

What is "wheeling"?

And can I assume that non-contrast all-eyelets is fine, vs. e.g. blind eyelets or speed hooks or contrast eyelets?

 

I am down with the Skye 3, but prefer if we stuck to the 325 last.

 

No preference on welt/wheeling.  Both options have their own appeal so I will side with the majority.  

 

What kind of options would we consider for contrast eyelets?  ATM I will side with the majority on this as well.

 

I would prefer no pull-tabs on a shell boot but it is by no means a deal-breaker.

 

 

 

This is wheeling:

 

 

It is the ridging atop the welt.

post #5606 of 6054
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Originally Posted by ennui View Post

Regarding a whiskey Lindrick: I'm also interested and have already contacted Lauren about this. She said the earliest they will have whiskey again is early December, so figure 16 weeks or so after that for delivery. She recommends that we get 12 folks's contact and payment info to her starting right now since it takes a while to get everything lined up. I agree, since this thread has ample evidence to back up her claim.

I asked her how much this is going to be, and am waiting to hear back from her. I don't mind organizing this one via a Google spreadsheet and PMs. I'll post the Google spreadsheet and price and details once I hear back from Lauren (hopefully by this time tomorrow).

Here are the folks who have expressed concrete interest so far:

@ennui
@makewayhomer
@TommyB
@BackInTheJox
@chipshot
@JayDotz
@shunted22
@Booter
@Mr Clemson

Obviously this may change once we know the price and other details. The Google spreadsheet will be the "official" record. Be prepared to pay up front now, and not have the order start until early December as noted earlier. I will send PMs to confirm with folks and will limit edit access to the spreadsheet to make sure that we don't get any spurious edits.

What other details about the makeup might be up for debate? I'm a relative noob to C&J and just like the way the Lindrick looks, but I don't know much about the types of welt, last, etc.


Sorry what is the price for this make up.  I could be interested, since this is a boot. 

post #5607 of 6054
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Originally Posted by ennui View Post

Regarding a whiskey Lindrick: I'm also interested and have already contacted Lauren about this. She said the earliest they will have whiskey again is early December, so figure 16 weeks or so after that for delivery. She recommends that we get 12 folks's contact and payment info to her starting right now since it takes a while to get everything lined up. I agree, since this thread has ample evidence to back up her claim.

I asked her how much this is going to be, and am waiting to hear back from her. I don't mind organizing this one via a Google spreadsheet and PMs. I'll post the Google spreadsheet and price and details once I hear back from Lauren (hopefully by this time tomorrow).

Here are the folks who have expressed concrete interest so far:

@ennui
@makewayhomer
@TommyB
@BackInTheJox
@chipshot
@JayDotz
@shunted22
@Booter
@Mr Clemson

Obviously this may change once we know the price and other details. The Google spreadsheet will be the "official" record. Be prepared to pay up front now, and not have the order start until early December as noted earlier. I will send PMs to confirm with folks and will limit edit access to the spreadsheet to make sure that we don't get any spurious edits.

What other details about the makeup might be up for debate? I'm a relative noob to C&J and just like the way the Lindrick looks, but I don't know much about the types of welt, last, etc.


color me interested on a whindrick

post #5608 of 6054
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post


color me interested on a whindrick

Seems like there was a shift earlier this evening and in may be a whiskye now.
post #5609 of 6054
im in for whiskey lindrick
post #5610 of 6054
Yeah, here's the current specs:

* Whiskey shell Skye
* 325 last - not sure what the difference is between 325 and 335, but seems like more folks want this
* storm welt (no wheeling) - again seems like more folks want this
* antique edge
* all eyelets, non-contrast (I'm guessing their antique brass color)
* brown Dainite sole

I don't think there are any other details I'm missing - if I am, let me know.

I am waiting for Lauren to send me a price. Since we switched to Skye from Lindrick, wait for my official spreadsheet post (probably tomorrow) and re-confirm with me once I have the exact specs.

Note that Lauren suggests we pay now so we can hit the ground running when the shell becomes available in early December. Then 16 weeks after that is the approximate date when they are finished. So I'd expect these in early April-ish, even though you would be paying now. Don't sign up if you are not OK with paying now and waiting that long.
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