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post #3376 of 6050
Well to be hones I would be interested in chukka in Whiskey Shell Cordovan too.

For example Chepstow in Whiskey Shell Cordovan would work for me.

post #3377 of 6050
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How about you guys, dare I convince you to go with Coniston instead of Harlech. shog[1].gif

Personally I'm not interested in the Coniston. The last doesn't favor me and aesthetically I find it too pointy for my liking. I'm an Alden guy at heart...the Harlech is as close to an Alden last as I can get.
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Originally Posted by SuitedDx View Post

As we're expected the zug Snowdon in a handful of months, I am wondering if we can get a running list of individuals who may be interested in a second run. What I'm thinking of is below:

Boot: Snowdon
Leather: Zug
Veldt construction
Full bellow tongue
Speed hooks
Sole: Ridgeway
Faux cap toe (similar to the EG's Galway)

Anyone interested? If so, I can assist in coordination and inquiry if the materials are available.

Interested.
post #3378 of 6050
When is the first run due again?
post #3379 of 6050
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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

Coniston is indeed cap toe but on the different last, 325 last, deets are still in work in progress.

@S K M didn't you do brogue boot on 325 last in whiskey shell cordovan?

No, ended up doing the Lindrick but in dark brown cordovan.
post #3380 of 6050
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Personally I'm not interested in the Coniston. The last doesn't favor me and aesthetically I find it too pointy for my liking. I'm an Alden guy at heart...the Harlech is as close to an Alden last as I can get.
Interested.


Interesting statement.  The only Alden last the even comes close to 341 is the Plaza.

 

And, the Plaza is the most unusual Alden last ever.  Meaning, Plaza is the only last from Alden that could be considered sleek IMO.

 

Aberdeen is much pointier than 325.  Aberdeen is an old school last.

 

IDK if there was ever 2 makers that had last that were more diametrically opposed than Alden and C&J.

 

The only CJ last I have ever encountered that is; "Aldenesque" is maybe 335.  240???  But even then its not a comparison.

 

I appreciate my Alden's for what they are...Alden's, and my CJ's are what they are....CJ's....

 

I have stopped trying to get one maker to be another, but rather appreciating them for what they are, acknowledging the strengths and weaknesses of them both. 

 

Thanks.

post #3381 of 6050

Hope this info is helpful for us:

 

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post #3382 of 6050
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Originally Posted by MrVenneri View Post

Personally I'm not interested in the Coniston. The last doesn't favor me and aesthetically I find it too pointy for my liking. I'm an Alden guy at heart...the Harlech is as close to an Alden last as I can get.
Interested.

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Originally Posted by Watchman1 View Post


Interesting statement.  The only Alden last the even comes close to 341 is the Plaza.

And, the Plaza is the most unusual Alden last ever.  Meaning, Plaza is the only last from Alden that could be considered sleek IMO.

Aberdeen is much pointier than 325.  Aberdeen is an old school last.

IDK if there was ever 2 makers that had last that were more diametrically opposed than Alden and C&J.

The only CJ last I have ever encountered that is; "Aldenesque" is maybe 335.  240???  But even then its not a comparison.

I appreciate my Alden's for what they are...Alden's, and my CJ's are what they are....CJ's....

I have stopped trying to get one maker to be another, but rather appreciating them for what they are, acknowledging the strengths and weaknesses of them both. 

Thanks.

I was going to say the same thing. We are far away from any whiskey shell GMTO at this point and I do not want to pressure anybody to change their mind but in interests for full disclosure it is the other way around. 325 last is more while 341 last is more pointy and dressier in my opinion.
post #3383 of 6050

Here are some more helpful comparisons:

 

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post #3384 of 6050

Here is Alden:

 

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I will say this, those big fat Alden lasts are so comfy once you nail your size.

post #3385 of 6050

I think the greatest difference between Alden and CJ is NOT the toe itself, although that is evident as well.  The greatest difference is from the ball to toe tip.  That is where you can really tell.

post #3386 of 6050
Agree that the 341 appears to be longer and pointier than the 325. My 325 lasted Conistons are probably my most comfortable pair of boots, which is what has me so interested in a whiskey version.
post #3387 of 6050
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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

Coniston in Whiskey Shell Cordovan roll call

@Mutombo
@kczsilence
@chipshot
@Threeputt

anybody else?

I am flexible on soles I can do leather, double leather or dainite.
post #3388 of 6050
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Originally Posted by Watchman1 View Post
 

I think the greatest difference between Alden and CJ is NOT the toe itself, although that is evident as well.  The greatest difference is from the ball to toe tip.  That is where you can really tell.

 

For me, the other big difference is in the heel.  Not so much in the width of the heel, but the heel counters (and shapes) that C&J creates compared to what Alden creates.  And for that matter, Viberg (another favorite brand of mine).  I love my C&J's and my one and only EG, but both those UK brands have "flimsy" heel counters.  I know Alden and particularly Viberg, are more "work boot" oriented, but still. I prefer the more supportive heel counters and heel shapes of Alden and Viberg.

post #3389 of 6050
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

For me, the other big difference is in the heel.  Not so much in the width of the heel, but the heel counters (and shapes) that C&J creates compared to what Alden creates.  And for that matter, Viberg (another favorite brand of mine).  I love my C&J's and my one and only EG, but both those UK brands have "flimsy" heel counters.  I know Alden and particularly Viberg, are more "work boot" oriented, but still. I prefer the more supportive heel counters and heel shapes of Alden and Viberg.

Sure. Once you get through the initial Alden sizing crisis we all have had to endure, it's usually a pleasurable experience.

Unfortunately, I had to go through 3 different Barrie sizes before the right one. Thankfully, Aldens hold their resale value...

Alden has a lot of strong points. One thing to consider, we are Americans with American feet. That is why so many have trouble with the Euro lasts...simply not designed for us...

Alden has been making shoes for Americans for a very long time. Once you get a feel for their lasts...it's usually a life long affinity.

I would wear Alden exclusively, but they do not manufacture enough boots and shoes in the style/size combo I want.

I will say this, I favor the lasts of CJ though. In general they are very aesthetically pleasing.

Thanks.
post #3390 of 6050

UPDATE - 1/13

 

Today marks the day that the ball really starts rolling. I've been working with C&J trying to iron out the details, confirm production materials, confirm customization options and pricing. I'm happy to report today...that we've been greenlit for a 12 pair run of Whiskey Harlech boots!

 

Customization Options

 

Sole: Leather or Dainite

Eyelets: Hidden or Exposed

                If Exposed - Speed Hooks or Full Lace

                If Exposed - Eyelet Color

Stitching Color:

Welt:

Edge Color:

 

 

Pricing

 

EU Customers (VAT) - £750

USA Customers - £624.95

*Shipping to USA - £30

**Shipping will vary to other parts of the world.

 

(For most of us in the USA, we're looking at $944.83 shipped)

 

Democratic Decision Process

 

I don't know how well this is going to play out but I thought it would be the fairest way of deciding on the boot's specifics. Everyone who is genuinely interested and has no reservations paying when the time comes to collect is more than welcome to submit your own option ballot. Once any option combination receives 6 or more legitimate backs from other members of the GMTO, we'll move forward with said options of the majority. To avoid chaos and convolution...If you see an option ballot that you like, simply quote it and begin a list starting with the OP's callsign.

 

**Additionally this decision process is subject to change should we face unforeseen issues or stymied progression.

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