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post #3271 of 6022
I'm still not sure why zug is such a *thing* when there is no longer any standard for what zug actually is. it was explained to me upthread, but basically it I understood to mean it's just scotch grain that's (claimed to be) waterproof but...feels like folks make a big fuss when it's unclear what they are actually getting (feels like various tanneries could just call something zug?). or has anyone actually tested how waterproof it is relative to other leathers? or is the appearance that much different than a regular scotch grain?
post #3272 of 6022
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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

I am going to play a contrarian here, I really do not think you should do Conistron in zug leather. I think the boot model is not appropriate for zug leather. Snowdon for example is the whoelcut boot while Coniston has stitched cap toe. In addition Coniston also has stitched leather cutting across the bottom part of the boot. These stitchings make boot less waterproof than whole-cut boot model.
However to each its own, if you guys can muster 12 interested parties for this by all means go for it.

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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

I'm still not sure why zug is such a *thing* when there is no longer any standard for what zug actually is. it was explained to me upthread, but basically it I understood to mean it's just scotch grain that's (claimed to be) waterproof but...feels like folks make a big fuss when it's unclear what they are actually getting (feels like various tanneries could just call something zug?). or has anyone actually tested how waterproof it is relative to other leathers? or is the appearance that much different than a regular scotch grain?

I think is case of personal choice.

For me, it is a case if I want boot to be completely waterproof and wear in rivers , fields etc all day I wear a pair of Dubarry Wellington boots.

For me I chose to wear these boots for general wear, smart wear and look upon it as these boots will be as water resistant , if not more so, than regular Conistons, of which I have never in over two years of wearing experienced any water getting in.

For me I think the Brown Zug looks fantastic , is maybe even more durable that country grain on regular tan Conistons, and for £30 additional cost to standard Tan Conistons I think is good price !!!!

I'll add interested parties so far to list biggrin.gif
post #3273 of 6022
I'm mostly in it for the full bellows. You need full bellows in situations like these. But it's nice to have a material that is as close to the traditional stuff as possible.

This was my regular Snowdons' first ever trip.


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post #3274 of 6022
Nobodu does boot photos better tham crat well done sir nod[1].gif
post #3275 of 6022
Interested in those coniston as well!
post #3276 of 6022
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Originally Posted by TommyB View Post

The Whiskey Harlechs arrived yesterday and they look pretty darn fantastic, I think. Personally, I don't mind the storm welt, one reason being that 90 percent of the time when I wear boots I wear them with raw denim, the other 10 percent with chinos.

 

I haven't tried this yet. I get conflicting information about the indigo bleeding onto shoes. 

post #3277 of 6022
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I haven't tried this yet. I get conflicting information about the indigo bleeding onto shoes. 

Unsanforized WILL bleed, along with a most raw denim 

post #3278 of 6022
Storm Welt will be much appreciated when the Heavens open. Awesome GRAIL Boot. Enjoy, maybe the best purchase of your life...
post #3279 of 6022
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post

Really like this combo, may I ask what pants you're wearing?
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Originally Posted by teaegg View Post

I haven't tried this yet. I get conflicting information about the indigo bleeding onto shoes. 
No problem with my #8 Alden shell boots (cuff the denim once for shoes, twice for boots). Suede is a different matter, though.
post #3280 of 6022
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Really like this combo, may I ask what pants you're wearing?
No problem with my #8 Alden shell boots (cuff the denim once for shoes, twice for boots). Suede is a different matter, though.

Epaulet's Olive drab army twill rivet

post #3281 of 6022
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post

Unsanforized WILL bleed, along with a most raw denim 
Indeed. So will sanforized. Some denim just bleeds more than other denim.
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post #3282 of 6022
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Epaulet's Olive drab army twill rivet
Thanks. Need to figure out my EP rivet size.
post #3283 of 6022
No pun intended but is there a point where the bleeding stops?
post #3284 of 6022
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

No pun intended but is there a point where the bleeding stops?

I've seen minimum on non-raw denim, pre washed brands. But I've read that some raw denim after a couple of years of use and wash almost goes away, almost

post #3285 of 6022
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Originally Posted by Skyfell View Post

Have heard back from Lauren with further details:

Make up would be as standard Coniston , 325 last, Storm Welt, Black Dainite Studded Rubber Sole, heel tab, 4 blind eyelets and 4 speed hooks.

The difference would be this beautiful Dark Brown Zug Leather:

From email of the Dark Brown Zug leather sent by Lauren:



This is the same leather used in the recent Snowden MTO, pics courtesy of Nigeljh:




I think the finished boot would look a little like this .....but in Zug icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif





Price would be £383.36 excluding VAT or £460 including VAT.

Lauren is currently enquiring about possibility of leather heel tab or bellows tongue but still not sure if this would be available from factory and would be small price increase for these features if were available.

Lauren feels a run would be possible mid December when next batch of Zug is in, with more Zug being available Feb / March.

Any takers?

Best Regards

Sky smile.gif


Update:

Takers so far:

Stevefok
KPDarb
Fayia
Skyfell

Possibly also Bespoken ? ( see below regarding Feb)

If have forgotten someone or any more takers please let me know, we need 12 to make this happen ! biggrin.gif

Have received further email from Lauren after speaking to factory, bellows tongue not possible but leather heel tabs as below (on Islays) are. Will incur additional cost which Lauren will inform me of next week;


Please can all takers so far PM me their thoughts on whether want leather heel tab or not?

As nearing Xmas am also thinking might be better to submit this order in February, they will have the Zug leather ready at this time and price will be same before price increases. Again, please can takers so far post or PM their thoughts on this?
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