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Crockett & Jones MTO Central - Page 219post #3271 of 709611/18/15 at 10:16amI'm still not sure why zug is such a *thing* when there is no longer any standard for what zug actually is. it was explained to me upthread, but basically it I understood to mean it's just scotch grain that's (claimed to be) waterproof but...feels like folks make a big fuss when it's unclear what they are actually getting (feels like various tanneries could just call something zug?). or has anyone actually tested how waterproof it is relative to other leathers? or is the appearance that much different than a regular scotch grain?post #3272 of 709611/18/15 at 10:52amQuote:Originally Posted by laufer
I am going to play a contrarian here, I really do not think you should do Conistron in zug leather. I think the boot model is not appropriate for zug leather. Snowdon for example is the whoelcut boot while Coniston has stitched cap toe. In addition Coniston also has stitched leather cutting across the bottom part of the boot. These stitchings make boot less waterproof than whole-cut boot model.
However to each its own, if you guys can muster 12 interested parties for this by all means go for it.Quote:Originally Posted by makewayhomer
I'm still not sure why zug is such a *thing* when there is no longer any standard for what zug actually is. it was explained to me upthread, but basically it I understood to mean it's just scotch grain that's (claimed to be) waterproof but...feels like folks make a big fuss when it's unclear what they are actually getting (feels like various tanneries could just call something zug?). or has anyone actually tested how waterproof it is relative to other leathers? or is the appearance that much different than a regular scotch grain?
I think is case of personal choice.
For me, it is a case if I want boot to be completely waterproof and wear in rivers , fields etc all day I wear a pair of Dubarry Wellington boots.
For me I chose to wear these boots for general wear, smart wear and look upon it as these boots will be as water resistant , if not more so, than regular Conistons, of which I have never in over two years of wearing experienced any water getting in.
For me I think the Brown Zug looks fantastic , is maybe even more durable that country grain on regular tan Conistons, and for £30 additional cost to standard Tan Conistons I think is good price !!!!
I'll add interested parties so far to listpost #3273 of 709611/18/15 at 11:23pmpost #3274 of 709611/19/15 at 4:39ampost #3275 of 709611/19/15 at 12:10pmpost #3276 of 709611/19/15 at 1:05pmQuote:
I haven't tried this yet. I get conflicting information about the indigo bleeding onto shoes.post #3277 of 709611/19/15 at 1:06pmpost #3278 of 709611/19/15 at 1:13pmpost #3279 of 709611/19/15 at 1:15pmpost #3280 of 709611/19/15 at 2:37pmpost #3281 of 709611/19/15 at 2:54pmpost #3282 of 709611/19/15 at 11:39pmpost #3283 of 709611/20/15 at 4:55ampost #3284 of 709611/20/15 at 8:15ampost #3285 of 709611/22/15 at 4:44amQuote:Originally Posted by Skyfell
Have heard back from Lauren with further details:
Make up would be as standard Coniston , 325 last, Storm Welt, Black Dainite Studded Rubber Sole, heel tab, 4 blind eyelets and 4 speed hooks.
The difference would be this beautiful Dark Brown Zug Leather:
From email of the Dark Brown Zug leather sent by Lauren:
This is the same leather used in the recent Snowden MTO, pics courtesy of Nigeljh:
I think the finished boot would look a little like this .....but in Zug
Price would be £383.36 excluding VAT or £460 including VAT.
Lauren is currently enquiring about possibility of leather heel tab or bellows tongue but still not sure if this would be available from factory and would be small price increase for these features if were available.
Lauren feels a run would be possible mid December when next batch of Zug is in, with more Zug being available Feb / March.
Takers so far:
Possibly also Bespoken ? ( see below regarding Feb)
If have forgotten someone or any more takers please let me know, we need 12 to make this happen !
Have received further email from Lauren after speaking to factory, bellows tongue not possible but leather heel tabs as below (on Islays) are. Will incur additional cost which Lauren will inform me of next week;
Please can all takers so far PM me their thoughts on whether want leather heel tab or not?
As nearing Xmas am also thinking might be better to submit this order in February, they will have the Zug leather ready at this time and price will be same before price increases. Again, please can takers so far post or PM their thoughts on this?Return Home
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