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post #9931 of 33990

Don't worry Lonneker, I understood your post completely. It was quite brilliant. I only quoted you to repost the atrocious timepiece...too bad it didn't reappear biggrin.gif

 

My comments were completely directed at ThatGuy, who is quite literally that guy.

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding friend!

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Originally Posted by Lonneker View Post

I think you just did. If someone is mocking a brand, then it's helpful to know where he's coming from. Now you know. Just to be clear: my post was not meant to support his view. That GP is far from an attractive watch.
I think you missed my point; see above.

ya I think I know what you mean... and for the record I don't like the watch he pictured either. But, I do like some of their other offerings in a similar style. More like these from the 1945 Collection ...

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post #9933 of 33990
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

Don't worry Lonneker, I understood your post completely. It was quite brilliant. biggrin.gif

My comments were completely directed at ThatGuy, who is quite literally that guy.

Sorry for the misunderstanding friend!

lol8[1].gif I was thinking that as well... oh the irony! Thx Cylon nod[1].gif
post #9934 of 33990

I wouldn't crap all over GP for the sake of one troll.

GP has some amazing pieces, and those are beautiful watches Kid Nickels................cept for the lugs peepwall[1].gif

post #9935 of 33990
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Originally Posted by Warren G. View Post

He also posted a wrist shot :
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I'll admit I have an a real thing for Reversos, but this JLC RdM is fabulous... I guess I'll need one of each! Wonderful wrist shot Warren fing02[1].gif
post #9936 of 33990
So I went and looked at the Ralph Lauren watch in person today. It really is gorgeous and if it was a bit cheaper I'd probably be wearing it right now. Still tempted but the lack of provenance does bother me.
post #9937 of 33990
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

So I went and looked at the Ralph Lauren watch in person today. It really is gorgeous and if it was a bit cheaper I'd probably be wearing it right now. Still tempted but the lack of provenance does bother me.

exactly... I don't understand this from a product standpoint at all... for the price why would one buy an RL watch?
post #9938 of 33990
Hehe that isn't my wrist shot. I stole that picture from TZ. I always like the RDM, but the first one measuring at 37mm, it was really underwhelming in person. I think 39mm is the perfect size for that watch. I'm also a huge fan of the Reverso. But its a watch everybody should try on before pulling the trigger. As they vary a lot in thickness in addition to the case size which makes them wear differently.


Anyway guys, I just pull the trigger on a Sub-C. I know most people are against the new lugs. But I can live with it... I'm stoked! It should be here on Tuesday. Borrow pic from the seller. Got a few more bucks left over, So I'll have a good start for my next watch....shog[1].gif

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post #9939 of 33990
In my opinion, the new Submariner is the most successful of Rolex's recent redesigns. The wider lugs are in keeping with the rugged, sporty nature of the watch, and the bracelet is a thousand times improved.

I'm glad to see JLC is tweaking the Master Control to have a narrower bezel. Honestly, I have a hard time understanding the few comments earlier in preference for the beefier bezel. The Master Control always had a narrower bezel, up until the most recent redesign four or five years ago. The thicker bezel was anomalous relative to the model's history and clearly not liked very well. In my opinion, the thinner bezel restores a lot of elegance to the watch that was previously lost.

I think IWC has lost it. Well, maybe they're selling a lot more watches, but only at the expense of anything I personally found interesting about the brand. The new Pilot watches are pastiches: designed to be reminiscent of flight instruments (hence the silly date display) rather than function as the real flight instruments they once were. The standard Pilot watch hasn't looked good since the Mark XV.
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Originally Posted by Warren G. View Post

Hehe that isn't my wrist shot. I stole that picture from TZ. I always like the RDM, but the first one measuring at 37mm, it was really underwhelming in person. I think 39mm is the perfect size for that watch. I'm also a huge fan of the Reverso. But its a watch everybody should try on before pulling the trigger. As they vary a lot in thickness in addition to the case size which makes them wear differently.
Anyway guys, I just pull the trigger on a Sub-C. I know most people are against the new lugs. But I can live with it... I'm stoked! It should be here on Tuesday. Borrow pic from the seller. Got a few more bucks left over, So I'll have a good start for my next watch....shog[1].gif
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The only thing I don't like about the Sub is the bubble magnifying thing going on with the date. If Rolex didn't have that I would've went for this Rolex over the Omega Seamaster
post #9941 of 33990
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

In my opinion, the new Submariner is the most successful of Rolex's recent redesigns. The wider lugs are in keeping with the rugged, sporty nature of the watch, and the bracelet is a thousand times improved.

I agree the bracelet is a lot better. long overdue....
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

The only thing I don't like about the Sub is the bubble magnifying thing going on with the date. If Rolex didn't have that I would've went for this Rolex over the Omega Seamaster

I understand.... FWIW, the cyclops is really easy to take off and put back on.
The newer Sub cyclops have an AR coating now. So you can actually read the date now. With the older version, sometime the date is just too blurry or impossible to read from a hand distance (defeat the main purpose, lol I know right)
post #9942 of 33990
I like the cyclops. Iconic to the design, and just quirky enough.
post #9943 of 33990

Another +1 for the cyclops. I love doing the "Rolex salute" to read the date. That and it's instantly recognizable.

post #9944 of 33990
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

In my opinion, the new Submariner is the most successful of Rolex's recent redesigns. The wider lugs are in keeping with the rugged, sporty nature of the watch, and the bracelet is a thousand times improved.
I'm glad to see JLC is tweaking the Master Control to have a narrower bezel. Honestly, I have a hard time understanding the few comments earlier in preference for the beefier bezel. The Master Control always had a narrower bezel, up until the most recent redesign four or five years ago. The thicker bezel was anomalous relative to the model's history and clearly not liked very well. In my opinion, the thinner bezel restores a lot of elegance to the watch that was previously lost.
I think IWC has lost it. Well, maybe they're selling a lot more watches, but only at the expense of anything I personally found interesting about the brand. The new Pilot watches are pastiches: designed to be reminiscent of flight instruments (hence the silly date display) rather than function as the real flight instruments they once were. The standard Pilot watch hasn't looked good since the Mark XV.

Agree with most all of this - well, apart from using 'successful' and 'Rolex's recent redesigns' in the same sentence ;-)

Especially agree with the last part about IWC. There isn't a watch in their current line-up they didn't do better in times past. Checking the site, the vintage Ingenieur and the Portuguese Automatic are pretty much the only appealing ones right now.
post #9945 of 33990
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

In my opinion, the new Submariner is the most successful of Rolex's recent redesigns. The wider lugs are in keeping with the rugged, sporty nature of the watch, and the bracelet is a thousand times improved.
I'm glad to see JLC is tweaking the Master Control to have a narrower bezel. Honestly, I have a hard time understanding the few comments earlier in preference for the beefier bezel. The Master Control always had a narrower bezel, up until the most recent redesign four or five years ago. The thicker bezel was anomalous relative to the model's history and clearly not liked very well. In my opinion, the thinner bezel restores a lot of elegance to the watch that was previously lost.
I think IWC has lost it. Well, maybe they're selling a lot more watches, but only at the expense of anything I personally found interesting about the brand. The new Pilot watches are pastiches: designed to be reminiscent of flight instruments (hence the silly date display) rather than function as the real flight instruments they once were. The standard Pilot watch hasn't looked good since the Mark XV.

Foo--although I agree with you on your observations regarding IWC and Rolex, but I did want to comment on the JLC statement. I was just wondering what you meant by "not understanding the few comments." Do you mean that in regards to not understanding where I am coming from, or do you mean that in not understanding why I would think that way? I guess I have an answer to both. First, I agree with you that the thinner bezel definitely does restore a lot of elegance to the watch, and the changes do bring it more in line with its predecessor, the Master Grande Taille.

I will first address my position, I guess. When the Master Control drew me in, I didn't exactly understand why. In essence, it is just a typical 3-handed watch with a date display. It was only when I saw the new one that I realized why I love the original iteration of the Master Control so much. Really, it all comes down to the Bezel. There is something about the incongruity of the size of bezel in comparison with the numbers that makes me appreciate the Master Control so much. In being a little bit "off," there is a certain charm that comes with the watch. But I would not characterize it as something that is negative, as it has always drawn me in. It is something that effectively causes me give it a double take. I get the same feeling when I see perhaps my favorite JLC, the Reserve de Marche [which I actually prefer in its newer form]. Just looking at the Reserve de Marche, there is something off. The dials are asymmetrical but at the same time so balanced. I feel like this dichotomy of balance and incongruity is very interesting, as well as being very difficult to describe. Here is a simple analogy. You have a co-worker, and you notice that she is a pretty girl. Over time, however, you are drawn in by just one of her features, perhaps her freckles. Objectively speaking, freckles are often not associated with "beauty." However, they add a certain innocence, or some other benefit, that the girl would not have if she did not have freckles. Etc. I am sure you get the point. Sometimes, a design comes together in such a way that it works despite the fact that certain elements are, on paper, less than ideal. I'm a big admirer of unconventional beauty myself, and I do tend succumb quite easily to the charms of the "imperfect." I love the slightly too heavy bezel. I love the ever so slightly too small numerals, and the way their smallness is accentuated by the wide bezel.

Now, why would I like something that is a bit off? I find the Master Control a very versatile watch. Like you said, it is not as elegant as it could have been. Thus, I find myself much more comfortable dressing the watch down. I have worn it with jeans and a polo a few times, as well as with a suit. I love that it has a somewhat casual element that, in my opinion, marries so well into the formal elements. And in regards to it not being liked very well... how do you figure that? From what I have heard, it has sold extremely well.

If I wanted a perfectly proportioned three-hander with date, there is a bona fide bevy to choose from. I like that mine is a little different.
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