Originally Posted by no frills
But seriously, Stitchy, that's insane.
Originally Posted by Newcomer
You know, funny enough, the quality of fakes is just going to push more and more people into brand boutiques.
That is just crazy.
I would have to agree. Or at least to ADs and sellers that are truly trusted. I think for a lot of people it will really cut down on online purchasing (which will suck for me as a seller) and buying second hand frm smaller operations.
Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy
Wow, that is an incredibly good fake.
Stitch, what was it that told you it was a fake?
Best fake I have handled to date. There was a Rolex that was a close second, but the date wheel did not spin quite right and there was no box or papers.
Well, for starters, DerekS told me that the cannon pin (the one that goes through the stack of hands in the middle of the watch) should be a hump at the top of the pile, and on this watch, you can see that that pin is inverted, and sits below the top hand. A quick image search showed that the real ones indeed have a hump.
On top of that, I found a very handy post on a Malaysian watch forum that detailed exactly how the case, serial, and movement, numbers, match up and are referenced one to the other between the various papers and cards and the watch back, and these were off a little. The movement number from the COSC paper was not referenced anywhere else, and the serial number was not shown on the stickers, they only had the caseback number and barcode.
The last thing was that I called the AD on the card, and they are no longer a Panerai AD. Could be nothing, as he could have bought the watch when they were ADs, as they were ADs as of the date on the warranty card, but it didnt feel right.
Its all very nuanced, and had I not been on the lookout and had the customer himself not given me pause, I easily could have been fooled.
One thing I do is to always ask an outside source first, in this case, Derek. When you have the customer and the watch in front of you, its easy to get blinded by the romance of the watch and ignore red flags. You need to have another set of eyes to keep you on the ball, imho.
Originally Posted by Dino944
Spot on my man!!!