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Blast from the past. "Vintage" Revue Thommen Cricket from the late 1980s (before Vulcain took back the "Cricket" moniker). Gift from my dad and my first non-quartz watch. Bit like the JLC Memovox, it's a manually wound analog alarm watch, though not quite as sweet sounding as the Memovox!


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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

dino, well said, as usual. i actually was really interested in the prince models when they brought them back, but when i went to try them on they were tiny. like almost ladies watch size on my wrist. killed all my desire to own one. for the best probably, as my lust list is big enough as it is.

Hi Stitchy, I never tried on any of the new Prince Models.  I initially had hope they would be something elegant, and timeless to compete with say JLC's Reverso or Cartier's Tank.  But Rolex went for sort of a weird, bold modern/theme, that just doesn't work IMHO, and really isn't as elegant as the original Prince models.  I generally find, square and rectangular watches wear larger than round ones, so often they do not need to be very large...however your expectations may be a bit different based on your experience with Panerais and the Reverso Squadra. 

 

I've also gotten to a point where sometimes I'm relieved when a watch doesn't make it onto my "Must haves" list. 

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Originally Posted by ExhibitA View Post
 

Seriously ROLEX ?!?  New Pepsi GMT in white gold only... WTF?  For the price (est. $41K USD), I'd look at the Patek Philippe Nautilus Travel Time Chronograph 5990/1A Watch In Steel.

 

I'd hate to try and read that Patek with 65-year-old eyes. It looks daunting to make out to my eyes now. Plus if you can really afford either, you can afford both.

 

The Pepsi is such an obvious bauble I'm not sure why I'm defending it, but I am.

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At a wedding yesterday

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^^^^ Noice!!

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Lovely Cleav! Looks great!
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So, I finally am getting back to you on this (sorry it took so long), my Mac Book mistakenly had some whisky spilled on it, and it met a rather pleasant death. I have been on an iPad for the time being, and just really am not a big fan of posting anything on my iPad.
As a preliminary matter, lovely pics of your RO. Although I am not the biggest fan of complicated ROs, that one and the chronograph are really, really lovely.

I think that out of your choices, I really prefer the 1815 38.5mm. Or, alternatively, I really love the 1815 aub / auf. The power reserve gives it a little bit more oomph. For me, at least, the Saxonia models fall a little bit flat. They are lovely--there is no doubt about that. But I find them lacking in character. At that price point, I do not merely want something that is perfectly executed. I want something that is perfectly executed with personality. My only real criticism of my MUT Moon is that it can be a little bit too austere--sometimes I find it a bit cold. I think there is no doubt that it is near-perfectly executed, but it does not have the warmth and quirkiness of other watches. I find that I am drawn more and more to quirky watches.

I find that the 1815 range is also more “distinctively Lange.” I am not sure exactly what that means, but I just typically prefer their watches with Arabic numerals and railroad track minutes..

If I was going the Lange direction, I would not go for an automatic movement. Although I do like their micro-rotor movements, in my mind Lange is synonymous with a 3/4 plate and a handwound movement.

All in all, I do not think that you could go wrong with any of the choices you have in front of you. They are all absolutely beautiful watches. Although aesthetically I prefer the VC to the Saxonia, the Saxonia has a feeling on your wrist that is difficult to describe. Lange and FPJ are the only two watches (I have experienced) that felt so reassuring on the wrist. They are so wonderfully balanced. With the VCs I have tried, they did not have that same feeling on the wrist. Of course, this is completely personal. But with the Lange watches I have tried on, they feel wonderful.
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Boom.  1815 is it.

 

Although I'd still love a Langematik Perpetual, which is technically a Saxonia, you're right about the personality: with the simple Langes the 1815 is just so quintessential.  Or a platinum Richard Lange.  For less than a white gold Rolex GMT Pimpepsi...

 

P.S.  It was my birthday recently.  I thought I was getting a watch.  I even had a parcel the same sort of size and weight of a fancy watch box.  It had little handles on the end like the one I thought I might be getting, I could feel them.  And we've been talking about watches.  I even have a little Pinterest board of ones I like.  With some very specific details on the cheapest ones.  I really started to think this was it.  And then it wasn't.  Mustn't be ungrateful - goodies from Drake's and...er...a box...a really nice box...but man I had to show a brave face.  I love that woman and she is truly good to me.  But I think I might have to buy a watch.  :facepalm: 

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Lovely Cleav! Looks great!
So, I finally am getting back to you on this (sorry it took so long), my Mac Book mistakenly had some whisky spilled on it, and it met a rather pleasant death. I have been on an iPad for the time being, and just really am not a big fan of posting anything on my iPad.
As a preliminary matter, lovely pics of your RO. Although I am not the biggest fan of complicated ROs, that one and the chronograph are really, really lovely.

I think that out of your choices, I really prefer the 1815 38.5mm. Or, alternatively, I really love the 1815 aub / auf. The power reserve gives it a little bit more oomph. For me, at least, the Saxonia models fall a little bit flat. They are lovely--there is no doubt about that. But I find them lacking in character. At that price point, I do not merely want something that is perfectly executed. I want something that is perfectly executed with personality. My only real criticism of my MUT Moon is that it can be a little bit too austere--sometimes I find it a bit cold. I think there is no doubt that it is near-perfectly executed, but it does not have the warmth and quirkiness of other watches. I find that I am drawn more and more to quirky watches.

I find that the 1815 range is also more “distinctively Lange.” I am not sure exactly what that means, but I just typically prefer their watches with Arabic numerals and railroad track minutes..

If I was going the Lange direction, I would not go for an automatic movement. Although I do like their micro-rotor movements, in my mind Lange is synonymous with a 3/4 plate and a handwound movement.

All in all, I do not think that you could go wrong with any of the choices you have in front of you. They are all absolutely beautiful watches. Although aesthetically I prefer the VC to the Saxonia, the Saxonia has a feeling on your wrist that is difficult to describe. Lange and FPJ are the only two watches (I have experienced) that felt so reassuring on the wrist. They are so wonderfully balanced. With the VCs I have tried, they did not have that same feeling on the wrist. Of course, this is completely personal. But with the Lange watches I have tried on, they feel wonderful.

I think you encapsulated the essence of the discussion on PuristSPro; the dial design for the 1815 is more characteristically Lange compared to the Saxonia, etc. I suppose the austerity of the Saxonia - particularly the Thin - is in fact what appeals to me. Part of me really wants an austere, minimalist watch. I also take your point regarding hand wound movements for AL&S; again, archetypal Lange. I fully understand what you mean by the feeling of a Lange on your wrist. Also the sensation winding Langes is something many aficionados speak of.
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I think you encapsulated the essence of the discussion on PuristSPro; the dial design for the 1815 is more characteristically Lange compared to the Saxonia, etc. I suppose the austerity of the Saxonia - particularly the Thin - is in fact what appeals to me. Part of me really wants an austere, minimalist watch. I also take your point regarding hand wound movements for AL&S; again, archetypal Lange. I fully understand what you mean by the feeling of a Lange on your wrist. Also the sensation winding Langes is something many aficionados speak of.

They really are very pleasurable to wind. And a watch as austere and pristine and the Saxonia deserves to be wound. I don't really care for automatic movements on pure dress watches, personally. Even practically speaking, it is probably easier to wind it manually than keep it on a winder.

What other watches are in your stable, Academe?

And Mimo, happy belated birthday! Better Drakes than what I have received by former lady friends. But I am certain that you will be receiving a new watch before too long!

Amazing, when you think about it, that the new Pimpepsi is the price of a Lange or Patek. I just don't get it. Put that bad boy in SS, and I am all over it like white on rice.
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For the life of me I can not understand why Patek made the Nautilus Travel Time also have a chrono function. I want to like that watch, but the more I look at it the more I dislike it. Really a bummer given how the 2nd time zone pushers are integrated so well in to the Nautilus design. I suppose it doesn't matter what I think as it will never be in my price range, but still I find it disappointing.
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For the life of me I can not understand why Patek made the Nautilus Travel Time also have a chrono function. I want to like that watch, but the more I look at it the more I dislike it. Really a bummer given how the 2nd time zone pushers are integrated so well in to the Nautilus design. I suppose it doesn't matter what I think as it will never be in my price range, but still I find it disappointing.

I find it really, really unfortunate looking. That is just me.

I quite like the Nautilus variant.
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At a wedding yesterday


Gets me every time, that watch inlove.gif

Soon my love will be sated wink.gif
post #30538 of 35955
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Hi Stitchy, I never tried on any of the new Prince Models.  I initially had hope they would be something elegant, and timeless to compete with say JLC's Reverso or Cartier's Tank.  But Rolex went for sort of a weird, bold modern/theme, that just doesn't work IMHO, and really isn't as elegant as the original Prince models.  I generally find, square and rectangular watches wear larger than round ones, so often they do not need to be very large...however your expectations may be a bit different based on your experience with Panerais and the Reverso Squadra.
I've also gotten to a point where sometimes I'm relieved when a watch doesn't make it onto my "Must haves" list. 


as i recall, as soon as i saw them in pictures they had a very cool and "fashion forward" look, that very much appealed to me at the time. so i went to check em out. it wore really small, i tried on a few. could just be my fat wrists though. in any case, as the designs no longer appeal to me near the way they did then, i too am relieved it did not make the must have list. : )
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Originally Posted by ExhibitA View Post
 

Seriously ROLEX ?!?  New Pepsi GMT in white gold only... WTF?  For the price (est. $41K USD), I'd look at the Patek Philippe Nautilus Travel Time Chronograph 5990/1A Watch In Steel.

Well, we make those choices all the time, is X worthy our hard earned money or is it better spent on item Y?  Sure lots of people are disappointed the new Pepsi is in WG, which will put out out of range for many that wanted a new one.  What is interesting to me is that the pricing just highlights how expensive Pateks have become.  10-15 years ago a basic Nautilus in steel could be had at a steep discount for about the price of a steel Daytona or a tutone Submariner.  Now a 5711 time only Nautilus is about the price of 2 steel Daytonas, or 3 steel Submariners.  The Nautilus is a great watch, and the quality is there, but it does astonish me how much their prices have escalated over the years.  

 

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as i recall, as soon as i saw them in pictures they had a very cool and "fashion forward" look, that very much appealed to me at the time. so i went to check em out. it wore really small, i tried on a few. could just be my fat wrists though. in any case, as the designs no longer appeal to me near the way they did then, i too am relieved it did not make the must have list. : )

I'm sure you will find something else to add to your "Must haves" list since the newer Princes are not on the list ;)

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Seriously ROLEX ?!?  New Pepsi GMT in white gold only... WTF?  For the price (est. $41K USD), I'd look at the Patek Philippe Nautilus Travel Time Chronograph 5990/1A Watch In Steel.


I get the feeling they'll sell (GMT IIC Pepsi White Gold). I think Rolex made the right choice.

 

In the meantime however, I guess I'll just have to wear my poor man Pepsi.

 

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