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Modest contribution:

Beauty.

Lately I've had a hankerin' for a Rolex w/ Jubilee bracelet. Something along the lines of this...

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Cyc, a friend of mine just got one.  I've never liked the fluted bezel, never liked the gold and steel two tone thing, and never liked the Jubilee bracelet.  Yet all together...somehow the way it was meant to be.

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Here we are! The new 5270 perpetual calendar chronograph design from Patek... Available in blue and white dials (soon). What do you guys think!

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For comparison here is my old model 3970 in a white metal too:

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Okay I guess the angles and rendering offers an unfair comparison. But oh that melting tachymeter at 6.... (Barf!)



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Not a fan of the tach, but man do I like that blue dial with the moonphase.
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Five very different things, around the five grand mark, all of which I happen to love.  In roughly descending order of price:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Want.

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Five very different things, around the five grand mark, all of which I happen to love.  In roughly descending order of price:














OK...now we are talking...that Omega just made the list.
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Nice pics, NS, frilly and cyc. I hope everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
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CTL: there are many versions of that too; that's the smaller (42mm) version with the blue moonphase that I prefer, the moonphase on the newer one is black, and the latest version comes in a monster 45mm-ish case.  There's also one like that shown with "broad arrow" blue hands on a white dial, that I suspect you will like.  And they are well under your $5k budget.

 

Roger: me too, and it's only $3k-ish.

 

Frilly: I'm confused, as the one shown on the Hodinkee review doesn't seem to be melting.  And it looks nice.  But I can't help ask whether 41mm is unnecessarily big considering the 36mm size of your 3970p.  39mm would have been perfect!

 

 

But yours is platinum and therefore bestest.  The end.

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Not a fan of the tach, but man do I like that blue dial with the moonphase.

 

I am sure that blue dial will be stunning in person.  I'm not sure if I can get over the melting tach aesthetic... especially given its (expected) price tag of around $178,000 (maybe more).

 

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Nice pics, NS, frilly and cyc. I hope everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

 

Same with you, Stitchy!

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

Frilly: I'm confused, as the one shown on the Hodinkee review doesn't seem to be melting.  And it looks nice.  But I can't help ask whether 41mm is unnecessarily big considering the 36mm size of your 3970p.  39mm would have been perfect!

 

 

But yours is platinum and therefore bestest.  The end.

 

Ah, this is the original 5270G ("G" is Patek's indicator for "white gold").  It is a lovely piece in person, although I have my quibbles about it from an aesthetic point of view (I don't personally like how they moved the day/night indicator and the leap year indicator down to between 7 and 8 and 4 and 5, respectively; look at how those two subdials are a wee bit below the equator/midpoint, blah blah)... combined with the MSRP of close to USD178,000, well... there is no room for little aesthetic quibbles haha.

 

The two pics I posted above are literally additions to Patek's website as of yesterday.  Only the latest and greatest for TWATters!

 

http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5270G_013.html

 

http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5270G_014.html

 

Word came out about this revised design for the 5270G about two months ago, and the rumor was that it was for a limited run.  Since Patek put it on their website yesterday folks are now wondering whether it really is going to be for a standard run.  

 

The original 5270 was never an incredibly popular piece, for a variety of reasons.  It was severely discounted, often going for 25 to 30% off MSRP even from ADs.  Now that the original 5270 has been discontinued, there has been an uptick in demand (usual pattern for most - but not all - discontinued Patek pieces).  I am not sure how popular this new design will be.

 

A more detailed discussion here at PSP from the moderator Oliver Weindl, with accompanying pics:

 

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-11/pi-6150598/ti-899138/s-0/t-patek-philippe-pp-5270g-001-pp-5270g-015-pp-5270g-013-and-pp-5270g-014/

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How strange to change the actual design so markedly, while keeping the same reference.  I actually like those little indicators, although I suppose if one doesn't count well, the leap year indicator subdial on the 3970 is more effective!  But overall you're right: the 3970 is just so much neater and better-proportioned.  And yours is platinum. Which means bestest.  Did I already say that?

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How strange to change the actual design so markedly, while keeping the same reference.  I actually like those little indicators, although I suppose if one doesn't count well, the leap year indicator subdial on the 3970 is more effective!  But overall you're right: the 3970 is just so much neater and better-proportioned.  And yours is platinum. Which means bestest.  Did I already say that?


My own inclination is to keep the "symmetry" across subdials. Two hands in the main dial for hours and minutes, two hands in each subdial on 3 and 9. Just like the 3970 and 5970. Yellow gold 3970 pictured here:

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Although to be fair, some people prefer the 5270's "cleaner" look (a function of the larger case size and the assignment of the other functions to the "pimple windows" on the lower two quadrants).

A matter of preference to be sure, but it always boils down to relative pricing for me. Can't have any quibbles at that price point!



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My main issue with the new 5270 (and to some extend the old version) is that it's too unbalanced. With the subdials below the equator, and the melty tachy, it's just so bottom-heavy, which leaves the top half empty. The 3970 was way better balanced. 

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Apropos of nothing, I thought I'd just share a comment that my beloved made to me last night: "Do you remember, about a year ago, when I commented that you have an expensive shoe habit?  You said "well at least I don't have that dangerous obsession with watches".  And where are we now?"

 

Hmm.

Such a dangerous progression...but one can reminder her watches can last a lifetime, hold their value better, and some on occasion can appreciate (Mrs. Dino likes the last factor)...shoes if taken care of can last a lifetime,...but they don't hold any value once you've worn them.  Not that everything is a value issue...simply helps if you want rationalize ;) 

 

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Happy Thanksgiving, American TWATters.

 

Happy Hannukah, Jewish TWATters.* 

 

(*special greeting from peace-loving Muslim folk)

Thanks Bro!

 

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Would it be crazy to buy a Romain Gauthier Logical One over a Patek 3970? My search for a Dufour has been pretty unlikely and while I realize that the Logical One and a 3970 are completely different watches (as far as such things go), I am attracted to both.

I find the name of the RG funny...Logical One...especially in such an emotionally driven hobby.  That being said, they are so different I don't know how you could compare them other than price and the merits of traditional from big name vs. modern design from an indy.  I suppose if going by emotions try them both on and see which speaks to you.  If going by logic, then the answer is easy 3970 everyday and twice on Sundays. ;)

 

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Going down a similar path myself. My bonus check was unfortunately deposited in our joint checking account. Unfortunate because now I can't hold back a third towards a new watch. My bonuses come every quarter so I may make a direct deposit change for next time. (If my wife is reading this it was a joke...if she is not...it was not.)

:rotflmao:  Hope your wife has a good sense of humor if she reads your posts!

 

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Happy Thanksgiving TWATters - and all such permutations of greetings for today's celebrations!

3940 in platinum today on killer navy strap.

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Close up of the perfect dial.

Special shout out to mimo and his expensive shoe habit. What is all this talk about regal TWAT status? There is only one that we worship here:

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:inlove:Yummy on all counts!  3940 looks awesome on the blue strap...I love how it pulls a bit of color from the moonphase.

 

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If that is Your Majesty's wish, then may she soon be your queen.  Or concubine, if that's less awkward administratively-speaking.  Ask Henry VIII.

 

I'm waiting for Dino to back you up on Akatsuki's question, with his cautionary tales on dealing with independents.  From a practical point of view, the 3970 is just so perfect.  But...having looked it up, the RG is insanely special.  I guess the question in response is "just how crazy are you?".

 

Ah, Mimo you already know my thoughts on independents, so I won't go through the details.  I'll simply say, when it comes to service and parts, the something from the big name brands is always easier to deal with.  PP, AP, and VC will always service or make parts for any watch they've ever produced no matter how old.  Sure its costly, but IMHO there is something to be said for having PP parts in a Patek, AP parts in an AP etc.  That being said, from what I have heard AP will restore its own watches, or the watch of another company, if AP deems it a significant/special enough watch to warrant their attention.  Not sure what the criteria is for that.  Still I would be concerned about having to find someone to make parts if a Logical One has a serious problem should RG fold up in 10 + years.

 

Also resale value is more of a known factor with a big name company...with an indy, good luck if you tire of it.  I don't recall if Akatsuki is the person who said resale value is only a consideration for those that can't truly afford a watch...so I won't bother discussing resale in case he is that guy.  Good luck with whatever you decide Akatsuki.

 

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I am pretty crazy, but the long-term maintenance definitely concerns me. Especially since I will probably actually wear the watch a fair amount. Patek will be around for sure, but independents like Dufour, Journe, etc.? I am sure you can find someone to repair them if things go wrong, but it will be another independent and just an iffy and expensive proposition.

I think the main issue would be parts.  Sure someone could make a more common part and get a watch working again if an indy closes.  However, on something like a Logical One, that might be easier said than done on an unusual movement.  Even the best might find it technically challenging to make very specialized parts for a rare watch.  I would think it would be incredibly difficult to get something repaired/replaced to exact specs and tolerances from an outside source on a very special movement...and that says nothing for how its value could be impacted by having essentially aftermarket parts.  Again, wishing you luck on your adventure.

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Thank you for sharing this transparent bit of spam.

 

If I have a dollar spare, I'll cut out the middle man and buy a piece of shit quartz fashion watch from the petrol station.

 

Happy Thanksgiving. :)

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