if they would just stagger the dial cut by the date window, or put a damn metal frame around it, it would be a grail watch for me, but that lifeless date window makes me mad.
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I was hoping that you would chime in Dino. It is always great to hear your perspective.
I definitely plan on trying the 15202 on before taking the plunge, although finding one is definitely another problem. I called my AD (I like to do so in advance), and it sounds like there is quite a wait on these. I have tried the 5711, and I found it immensely comfortable. I did find the bracelet a bit light, but not so light that I found it flimsy. So it really depends on how the RO wears on the wrist.
One thing with the 5711 and the 5712 that I cannot ignore is the price. I feel like everyone has a line when it comes to pricing. For me... there comes a point in time when I cannot justify spending so much for a steel watch. These two watches are almost impossible to criticize, they both have so many virtues. So I hate that price comes into the picture for me, but $5,000 is still $5,000. And like you said, there are other Pateks that I would like.
Each are great watches. I've always bit a bit more in love with the RO's design, but that's subjective. I thought the bracelet on the Nautilus was very comfortable, not flimsy, but far too thin. I wanted a watch I could wear everyday without worrying how the bracelet would hold up. I haven't ruled out a Nautilus for myself at some point. For me its a watch I could own in addition to a RO Jumbo, but not instead of one.
As for pricing, both are a quite pricey for a steel watch. Price is often a consideration with any good watch purchase, and it definitely wouldn't be fun to buy something and be stressed because its beyond your comfort level. That being said, if you don't love the RO then I'd say don't buy it simply because its slightly less expensive. Perhaps a LNIB Nautilus will work for you if that's the watch you truly want. These watches are too expensive to not get the one you really want. You don't want to buy a watch that's your second choice for that amount, and then always wishing you purchased something else.
The case and movement are beautiful...but I've never been a fan of the dial. The date window annoys me, the applied Roman markers with lum look a bit clumsy for a Patek, and even the hands bother me (reminding me a bit of thinner Corum Bubble watch hands). I can appreciate that one gets a nicely complicated watch for a lot less than a true perpetual, but for me it doesn't make the grade. Oh well, Mrs. Dino is always thankful when there is a watch that's not on my "Must haves list."
Yes, I will have to see them side by side to really get a good feel on it. And I am definitely not siding with either... I think that they are both just superb choices. It is like choosing between a Sub and a GMT and a Daytona. Is there really a right answer? I guess I will wait to see what makes my heart go aflutter.
BTW, not sure if anyone noticed, but my Reverso engraving made it into the Oct issue of The Rake magazine!! Can post a capture if anyone is interested.
Frilly - congrats to your cousin. :)
Greg had on the PanoMaticLunar on Saturday. I love that watch, and I am positive I love it because I've heard Dino's opinion of it a few times now and still come out loving it!
Stiches, since I had to leave early Sunday and didn't have a chance to chat, I think we should organize a twat event in the near future. Maybe do a tire kicking event in honor of Mimo.
I saw it during my original "tyre-kicking" frenzy, and I love it too.
Were you hungry when you wrote this?
My two penn'rth on your original question: The RO Jumbo is the AP you ultimately want. The Nautilus isn't the PP you ultimately want. If the BLNR is your favourite Rolex, then I'd be tempted to say get it because it's much cheaper, and so what if you've already got a "sporty" watch? You've a chrono, which is different I don't see that they should be mutually exclusive. Nor even that the Rolex is unwearable with a suit - there are plenty of Subs that live in offices, if not most of them, and certainly plenty of GMTs and Explorer IIs.
So simple question: if the BLNR is absolutely your favourite Rolex, get that because it's cheaper and it's cool. If you're not sure and maybe a Daytona or a gold Sub or whatever is really your ultimate Rolex, then take a deep breath, sell a kidney and get the Jumbo. It's the only one about which you were completely unequivocal: it's your perfect AP, so get it. The perfect PP can come next year.
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Haha, I will edit my post to reflect that the dial is tapisserie, I guess I juxtaposed the t and the p . Maybe it was getting close to lunch time though! Gosh Mimo, excellent words of advice, I have to say you make a very convincing argument. I think that the BLNR is one that I want the most out of the current Rolex models, but I would like to see if they ever go back to a Pepsi bezel. Also, I doubt that the BLNR is going anywhere anytime soon.
From what I have heard, the 15202 is realllllly hard to get your hands on. Which makes me wants it more.
Really cool engraving.
When I was getting my Reverso I loved the idea of being able to get some engraving on the flip side of the case, but in the end I couldn't pass up the idea of basically getting two watches in one. Went with the duo, which as it happens, I have on today: