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really like the sinn and damasko watches

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In that price range, I also like to recommend Stowa and Nomos, although the latter is a bit more expensive. If you want tool watches, you may want to look at Sinn and Damasko.

 

My thought exactly: $1000 + "aviator" = Stowa.  My choice would be the Marine Original.  But there is plenty to choose in that range, and the "Flieger" comes in rather cheaper.

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My thought exactly: $1000 + "aviator" = Stowa.  My choice would be the Marine Original.  But there is plenty to choose in that range, and the "Flieger" comes in rather cheaper.

I'd get an Archer at the price.
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Forgive my ignorance, I hadn't heard of them until now, and just looked them up: I like them.  But as they're the same style, the same price and the same movement, I think I'd still go for the one from one of the four original makers of this type of watch - and at that price, only Stowa qualifies.

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I'd get an Archer at the price.

 



I understand the choice of a more established brand like Stowa, but knowing the watchmaker in question personally, I would likewise select an Archer offering. The dude really knows what he is doing and puts a lot of effort into the regulation and adjustment of his movements - the very opposite of just slapping a movement into a case and calling it a day.

He made a one-off piece for me using an old Hamilton cal. 917 pocket watch movement that I have enjoyed for a few years now.

Not knocking Stowa at all - I have owned two of their pieces in the past., including a MOLE. Very solid value for money there
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I hadn't heard of Archer until now either. The examples posted on their blog of service work they've done is pretty impressive.
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I still think I like Stowa models a bit more, though if the Stratos was smaller, it would certainly interest me. Do you mind posting pics of the watch he made you when you get a chance, I'd be interested in seeing it; pretty cool stuff right there.

 

And just to be clear, are you implying Stowa just slaps their movements in a case and calls it a day, or are you just speaking to the additional work Archer does that may go overlooked? I'm assuming the latter, but just wanted to clarify.

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My thought exactly: $1000 + "aviator" = Stowa.  My choice would be the Marine Original.  But there is plenty to choose in that range, and the "Flieger" comes in rather cheaper.

I am still siding with the Stowa, although Archer looks very interesting!

Personally, I also would not write off Damasko and Sinn. What they lack in movement finishing, they make up with in additions to the movement, case construction, etc. I had a Damasko for about a half a year before flipping (plan on acquiring another), and the ice hardened steel was pretty darn amazing. I whacked it against door frames, desks, etc., and it never showed even a sign of a scratch. Pretty cool technology.

Some pics of the departed:



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I still think I like Stowa models a bit more, though if the Stratos was smaller, it would certainly interest me. Do you mind posting pics of the watch he made you when you get a chance, I'd be interested in seeing it; pretty cool stuff right there.



 



And just to be clear, are you implying Stowa just slaps their movements in a case and calls it a day, or are you just speaking to the additional work Archer does that may go overlooked? I'm assuming the latter, but just wanted to clarify.


 



Yes, definitely the latter. As I said - I'm not knocking Stowa - I've owned two of their pieces and feel they deliver solid value.

Here is an old pic of the Archer (it has since had a stylized 'A' laser etched onto the previously black escutcheon, but I can't seem to find a pic of it). I will say that the lovely Hamilton 917 is quite an aesthetic upgrade over the ubiquitous ETA / Unitas 6497/8:

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I also second Newcomers comments on the appeal of the scratch-resistant casework of Damasko and Sinn and the like.

And that F.P. Journe is WAY off the hook. Were I in the enviable positon of having $100k to spend on a watch, they would get my money long before Patek.
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Thanks for the pics. I definitely think the 917 has more visual interest than the ETA/UNITAS.

 

I will add something for Stowa. After a wedding where I imbibed way too much, I dropped my watch off the bathroom counter top in the hotel room and it missed the rug, landing square on the crystal. Not a scratch, and still keeps great time. I was shocked. I just assumed that I was too drunk to notice the damage the night before when I woke up, but it doesn't look or perform any differently than it did before its fall.

post #25767 of 38513
1. for the 1k area i really like stowa

2. newC, my word that is lovely. so lovely i can excuse the two tone going on

3. frilly, that 5070 is the money right there. love.
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The FP Journe tourb looks really cool.  But I kind of want to see the tourb mechanism from the dial and not have to open up the case back.

 

This is why I would never buy a tourb from Patek, because they typically do not display the mechanism from the dial too.

 

JLC's Master Grand Tourbillon would be an interesting pick for me over the Journe as well as any of Patek's offerings.  Plus, since it trades for less than $50K for some models, it's less than half of the MSRP of the Journe.

 

But fortunately for my wallet I have not fallen in love with the tourb as a complication.

 

Must. Not. Look.  More.

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Dug up a pic of my old Stowa MOLE:

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The FP Journe tourb looks really cool.  But I kind of want to see the tourb mechanism from the dial and not have to open up the case back.
This is why I would never buy a tourb from Patek, because they typically do not display the mechanism from the dial too.

bugs me also. for that much dough, i wanna see it at all times. i have a burning desire for a tourb. have had it for as long as i can remember.

i know i read somewhere that PP very intentionally puts the tourb in the back. iirc, it had something to do with sunlight. not sure, but i know it was a mechanical reason, not aesthetic or an attempt to be modest. they have a horological reason for it.
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