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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post
 

 

My response did not suggest that it had been proposed that anyone live beyond their means or break their budget.  I said I would not necessarily recommend a new collector buy the most expensive watch they could possibly afford. By quoting my post and leading with that point you were either attributing that claim to me or creating a straw man.  Because I did not advance that proposition, nobody else advanced that proposition, and I doubt it is one which any remotely reasonable participant in this thread would advance.

 

My apologies if my brand comment threw you off, though I reject your characterization of my position on brand significance as "ranting".  Tell me Frills, were the others advancing a contrary position ranting as well?  It may well be that no-one believed my comments about branding - but when did they appoint you as their spokesperson?

 

In any event.  My point was that buying the most expensive watch one possibly can IS generally good advice for someone for whom branding is the most important thing.  I think we can both agree that such buyers exist within the broad realm of luxury products.  For such a buyer, purchasing the most expensive watch he could possibly afford would achieve the goal of getting the most brand for his dollar.

 

Roger, I never said that anyone appointed me as a spokesperson.  However, let it stand for the record that I am the only one - with the exception of Dino's post above - who directly told you that a number of us via private messages find some of your past posts logically inconsistent, rather relativistic, at times somewhat ridiculous and at some point a bit loony.  Maybe it's better to have done it via private messaging.  But perhaps - think about this - I'm the only one who cared to call you out like this versus just ignoring you or writing you off when you, well, go off on some (and let me phrase this carefully) "extended diatribe that might be perceived by others as, well, ranting." 

 

I am trying my best to get this across as constructive feedback, but it is your decision as to how to interpret it.  You can write off what I write completely and simply assume that you are always, always in the right in terms of what you say and how you say it, no matter which community member you might offend or put off.  Or perhaps acknowledge that there is a small grain of truth in what  I'm writing here.  You don't even have to acknowledge it in public; just think about the possibility that I might actually have a point, that I am not attacking you, that I actually care about what you share, about what you have to say, and with how others respect you in our little TWAT-ty community.  

 

That's your choice.  This is the last time I'll call you out on anything I perceive to be, well, ranting. 

 

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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Good points here, technically my watch budget could be $10k but at my age I think it's a waste of money when I could be earning the standard 20% or so I am getting in trading now. I am already wasting too much on shoes and should really not buy any but self control is weak when you see simply wholecuts in front of you that is customized to your feet. If I hold off on watches now for a few years I could then buy an A. Lange & Sohne or Patek which is what I really want. Which would be the smarter choice as nothing really has stood out to me. I wanted a Hamilton a few years ago out of high school but never bought it as I didn't really see the use. Been looking at watches the past few months online but again nothing really stood out. Guess it's probably better to wait until I know what I want, though I'm not sure I can figure that out without having a watch to wear daily

 

stevent, best wishes on the decision.  My two cents?  If your real desire is for a Patek or ALS then I fear that the current choices you laid out won't give you lasting satisfaction.  But as you noted, perhaps you may want to invest in a cheaper piece to help you figure out what you want.  Let us know how it goes!

 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

everyone should buy a rolex. even if you hate them. why do i say this? to stir sh*t up.

 

I am a thoughtless, intellectually unsophisticated brand whore who likes spending tons of cash on blingy watches because I crave the attention of other people!

 

Boom!

 

 

And more importantly - BOOM!

 

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Do you buy what you love? Or love what you buy?

That is the real question.
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Originally Posted by AriGold View Post

Do you buy what you love? Or love what you buy?

That is the real question.

 

If your question pertains in any way to Kate Upton, then the question is moot.  For she is the TWAT Princess we love, and yet she is priceless.

 

 

Here is the Mirror's take on Kate's calendar (yes, calendar), from an article published yesterday:

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/exclusive-first-look-kate-uptons-2365319

 

Also, here is a picture of a Rolex:

 

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post




stevent, best wishes on the decision.  My two cents?  If your real desire is for a Patek or ALS then I fear that the current choices you laid out won't give you lasting satisfaction.  But as you noted, perhaps you may want to invest in a cheaper piece to help you figure out what you want.  Let us know how it goes!

No frills, which watches did you start your impressive collection with?

And in general a white / cream or black face is most versatile correct?
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Originally Posted by AriGold View Post

Do you buy what you love? Or love what you buy?

That is the real question.

In my opinion there's no point in buying it if you don't love it.

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Originally Posted by stevent View Post


No frills, which watches did you start your impressive collection with?

And in general a white / cream or black face is most versatile correct?

 

A Patek Calatrava believe it or not - a 5119 in rose gold.  I really thought I followed the whole "buy the one piece I wanted the most, given what I could afford" advice.  

 

In a few months I convinced myself that I could afford more.  Lost some money on the 5119R because I bought it close to retail and sold it so quickly, but instead of going for an "interim" annual calendar I pushed myself to get the one I really wanted: a perpetual calendar, the 3940 in platinum.  I have never traded out another piece again (well, I traded out a 3919 shortly after I traded out the 5119, but I made money from that). 
 

Personally, I feel like a white face is most versatile - and legible.  Black dials are versatile too but depending on the light or time of day (or the state of your eyesight) it might not be as legible, especially if you go for a busier dial.  

 

With that said, I have a blue/green/gray dial Nautilus and I feel like I could wear that with anything too.  

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

A Patek Calatrava believe it or not - a 5119 in rose gold.  I really thought I followed the whole "buy the one piece I wanted the most, given what I could afford" advice.  

In a few months I convinced myself that I could afford more.  Lost some money on the 5119R because I bought it close to retail and sold it so quickly, but instead of going for an "interim" annual calendar I pushed myself to get the one I really wanted: a perpetual calendar, the 3940 in platinum.  I have never traded out another piece again (well, I traded out a 3919 shortly after I traded out the 5119, but I made money from that). 

 
Personally, I feel like a white face is most versatile - and legible.  Black dials are versatile too but depending on the light or time of day (or the state of your eyesight) it might not be as legible, especially if you go for a busier dial.  

With that said, I have a blue/green/gray dial Nautilus and I feel like I could wear that with anything too.  

Nice, maybe that is the better route to go, I'm not in a rush so maybe I can keep an eye out for a used Patek to start with. And thanks for the tip with white faces, I think I prefer them as well as the Nomos really caught my attention when browsing
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Originally Posted by AriGold View Post

Do you buy what you love? Or love what you buy?
That is the real question.

both.
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post

In my opinion there's no point in buying it if you don't love it.


this.
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I guess it is time for me to weigh in on the issue. I think that everyone has brought up some great points. The only thing I will caution is this--the first watch that you buy will rarely, if ever, be the watch that you end up really wanting. When I first started this hobby, I thought that my grail watch would be the 5119--the same as Frilly. I can comfortably say now that I have absolutely no desire to own the 5119! Lovely watch, but just not really my style. I would not buy a watch thinking it will be your last, and I think there is value in working your way up. Personally, I did not know what I wanted until I had it on my wrist for six months, a year, maybe longer. There are tons of excellent watches in your price range. Some excellent dress watches, some excellent sports watches, etc. It really is just funny how you never know what you want with this hobby. Chances are, you probably will not settle on one watch.


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Actually I think there are many ways in which one can take this journey. Yes it would be best not to waste too much money, but it's even more important to have a good time and enjoy yourself.

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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post

Actually I think there are many ways in which one can take this journey. Yes it would be best not to waste too much money, but it's even more important to have a good time and enjoy yourself.

This is definitely excellent advice! This is such an interesting hobby, with really no correct direction. The only important direction is the one that you take.
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Even if the BLNR were not purchased for me as a gift, I think it would be on my radar as something I would want to own.  It is a very attractive watch and lets be honest....I only got it because John Mayer mentioned it was an awesome watch on Hodinkee ;).  My fiancee has said if I take the watch off she gets to wear it.  She also has a soft spot for the Cartier Tank after seeing another woman wear one while out shopping. 

 

But the watch that got me interested in finer time pieces was a IWC Big Pilot 5002.  It is just so simple and while usually I do not enjoy power reserves, the BP pulls it off nicely.  The sad news is that after trying one on, my wrists get dwarfed by its presence.

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Edited by Geruvah - 10/14/13 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by AriGold View Post

Do you buy what you love? Or love what you buy?

That is the real question.

Renting what you love also works, you know, in a pinch.
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Truly a special moment!

So glad you shared this with us, Nuke!!!
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

MAZAL TOV!!! great news, newC!!
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Congrats!!! I'm so happy for you. I'm sure you are thrilled and your parents must be very proud. Well done my friend!
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Nuke, that's brilliant news.  Hearty congratulations, TWAT-bro.  This is a thread of superior intellect as well as manners, nobody doubted you I'm sure. smile.gif

By the way, thank you all for your kind words. I was out of town at a wedding this weekend, so I was unable to properly reply! Cheers, amigos.
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