Thanks guys! Haters and enablers alike
I love getting this kind of feedback, any discussion here in TWAT is taken (semi)seriously, gotta love it!
Regarding the RO Jumbo, new or old: Yeah, gotta love that one. I used to have a 15300, but never took to the bracelet. The Jumbo is much more like my Nautilus, like a cat's tail around my wrist. But then there's that, I have a Nautilus. The PP wins every time, sorry.
With this purchase I was wanting something frivolous, the watch for an evening on the croisette in Cannes with one shirtbutton too many unbuttoned. I have a couple of serious watches, and want something ... fun.
I have to respectfully disagree! I think both the new 41mm ROC and the new 39mm ROC lack the faboulousness of the old dial. But it's just my taste, I can only tell you that I find it more interesting.
Originally Posted by apropos
To paraphrase PG (remember him??) - Exackery.
On a related note, the new 15202 (different colour date window to example above) is IMO superb, and I may have started saving already for it...
Honestly do not think it is a good idea to trade 3 watches, each superb in their own right, for (IMO) the watch equivalent of baconaise, or a hot pink Ferrari.
Think about it - IMO as a "design icon" it fails (a PG version of a luxury steel watch??), as a sports
watch it fails (croc strap), and as a chronograph, well, for $50k MSRP there are plenty
of other options out there. If you are after this sort of "look" the VC Overseas chrono comes to mind.
I have never heard about baconaise, but I think I get the pictures without googling
Yeah, it's a pink Ferrari. I think maybe I want a pink Ferrari. I think a pink Ferrari is perfect for a man with one too many racing green british sportscar in his garage. (Or some other appropriate analogy.)
It is not a design icon, granted. But I never went for the icons on that strength alone. That's probably why my Nautilus is a 5712, and my IWC Fliegeruhr a 3717. They are not the classics, but still the ones I liked the best. Wrists don't lie. (Unfortunately, I have yet to try this particular old dial ROC on my wrist. Major drawback.)
I do like this look, and have certainly tried on the VC Overseas chrono. The VC is cool! (Also a F.Piguet caliber 1185 based movement. I wish the movement was more interesting thought.) But the VC is a 42mm case, much larger on my wrist than the old 39mm AP ROC.
Originally Posted by jbarwick
The AP ROC is nice and I remember watching that episode and noticing the watch! I have not tried on a gold sport watch but think it may catch my eye at some point in life. I enjoy when other TWATers post them as YG tends to be in your face loud and I may not enjoy that once on my wrist.
I have a couple of gold watches already, two nipple dialled Rolexes and a JLC MC Chrono. Gold is cool with me. Not easy to know that until you try.
Originally Posted by Omega Male
Logically, this is unassailable. But precious metal sports watches are by definition an indulgence, a guilty pleasure, the fake tits of the watch world. If you're going to go for it -- go big!
Hm, I am by nature a natural titties kinda guy
Originally Posted by Newcomer
I have got to say, I think that the individual pieces that you have acquired are much more horologically interesting than the ROC. However, I have no doubt that the massive chunk of rose gold that is the AP ROC would be very satisfying to look at.
I cannot argue with the horological interest angle. But there are mitigating circumstances:
Regarding the Heuer, I have three Heuer Autavias, the Siffert, a silver dialled auto and a manual (cal 72) in Siffert colouring (heard it referred to as "No Siffert", awesome!). Somehow I always prefer the three register manual Autavia. It is the one I wear. The Siffert represents the highest monetary value (Man, have they skyrocketed!), without representing the hightest "wrist value". That makes it a candidate for selling in my book.
I have two nipple dialled 18k Rolexes. 16808 and 16758. The GMT is slightly redundant, although cool as hell. The Sub always wins in my book, it was the first precious metal sports watch as far as I know. So ...
The Portuguese is the one that will hurt the most. I do find it incredibly cool, and for a larger watch, it fits me very nicely. But between that and my two JLCs, it does often loose when it comes to dressy. It's also really too big for formal wear, and has fierce competiton for more casual settings. But yeah, I dig that big dial!
Hoping to persuade more enablers, here are more pictures that I've stolen
Seriously guys, we're talking Kate Upton levels of photogenic here. Which I imagine is representative for the experience on the ... wrist ... never mind ... sorry ...