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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

Of course I have taken a small interest in Omega and Ive seen a few Omega commercials. Awesome.

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also, i have never heard of leaving a chrono running for no reason. fascinating.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post


Yes, a three register chronograph is desinged to time event that are up to 12 hours in duration. However in reality, that does not necessarily mean its was intended to run 24/7 365 days per year.

Of course its not going to blow up or wear the gears down to nothing. However, it will over time experience more wear & tear than one that has used the chrono function as needed, or as wanted rather than 24/7. A watch with average use probably will simply get cleaned and lubricated. A watch with the chrono running 24/7 may need some parts replaced. Not the biggest deal in the world, but its more than cleaning & lubrication and adds to the bill. Remember that although the gears are not gnashing, no matter how well engineered and lubricated there is some small amount of friction. It just can't be helped.

I think you may be taking the car analogy a bit literally. His point was unnecessary wear & tear. However, since you brought it up, your explanation of car analogy being like a watch on a winder isn't really acurate or the same. Cars are not intended to idle for 12 hours (its actually bad for cars. You'd see low mileage cars sustaining more significant wear on pistons, rings and valves, carbon deposits gumming up valves, premature replacing of catalytic converters and exhaust systems). While a watch is intended to tell time all day, everyday for several years.

It's one thing to replace rings, valves, exhaust if you've actually driven 250,000 miles... But it would seem like a waste of money & effort to do that at 20,000 miles from letting a car idle over night, every night for 5 years.

I've followed the watchmaker's advice and my chronographs have never had any problems or required any parts be replaced (just cleaned and lubricated). However, the OP can certainly do whatever he likes its his watch.

 

I don't recall anyone suggesting the chronograph should run 24/7/365 - I understood the question to embrace leaving the chronograph running while the watch is worn. I don't advocate leaving any watch running 24/7/365 - hence my disinterest in winders. Using a chronograph as it was designed to be used - i.e. - letting it run for up to 12 hours at a time - is not doing it any harm. Heck, letting it run longer is perfectly fine - it's not as if evil things suddenly start to happen in hour 12 or 13. I think the car analogy is not particularly apt for many reasons, but I wasn't the one who raised it. There are a gret many reasosn why you wouldn't leave your car running all the time that have no bearing upon the chronograph question. Surely you can think of a few. I hesitate to play the "my watchmaker said" game, but I have received different advice.
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Crap. I just turned off my chrono, and stopped all my winders after reading these last few posts.. Wait no I turned them on again.. wait..biggrin.gif

In all seriousness, I've often wondered the same thing about winders/chronographs.

I do love to watch that center hand go around on the Speedy though. It's a sickness.

Basic logic would make me think that running a chronograph would entail requiring more 'work' as defined by physics, and therefore more 'energy' from the movement, which means in my simplistic understanding, that it would have to come from the power reserve. Whether that results in a perceivable drop in that power reserve is the true question. From what I read on other 'forums', it does not.

great points RogerP and Dino in the end, I think both of you are correct.



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I don't recall anyone suggesting the chronograph should run 24/7/365 - I understood the question to embrace leaving the chronograph running while the watch is worn. I don't advocate leaving any watch running 24/7/365 - hence my disinterest in winders. Using a chronograph as it was designed to be used - i.e. - letting it run for up to 12 hours at a time - is not doing it any harm. Heck, letting it run longer is perfectly fine - it's not as if evil things suddenly start to happen in hour 12 or 13.I think the car analogy is not particularly apt for many reasons, but I wasn't the one who raised it. There are a gret many reasosn why you wouldn't leave your car running all the time that have no bearing upon the chronograph question. Surely you can think of a few.I hesitate to play the "my watchmaker said" game, but I have received different advice.
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

 

I don't recall anyone suggesting the chronograph should run 24/7/365 - I understood the question to embrace leaving the chronograph running while the watch is worn. I don't advocate leaving any watch running 24/7/365 - hence my disinterest in winders. Using a chronograph as it was designed to be used - i.e. - letting it run for up to 12 hours at a time - is not doing it any harm. Heck, letting it run longer is perfectly fine - it's not as if evil things suddenly start to happen in hour 12 or 13.I think the car analogy is not particularly apt for many reasons, but I wasn't the one who raised it. There are a gret many reasosn why you wouldn't leave your car running all the time that have no bearing upon the chronograph question. Surely you can think of a few.I hesitate to play the "my watchmaker said" game, but I have received different advice.

Hi Roger, the question the OP posted was, "People with chronos, such as Daytonas, do you leave the chrono running at all times?"  To me, that means leaving it on all the time (particularly if its a daily wearer).  It doesn't say, just when the person wears it.  

 

People should not be afraid to use the chronograph function.  I never said any harm comes to a watch wearing it with the chronograph engaged as it was designed to be used, be it for 12 hours or 14 hours.  Any additional wear and tear would probably take a few years of continuous use with chrono engaged before it would be noticeable.  I was merely sharing my experience and what a watch maker said to me about it.  In the end we are all adults and can choose to do what we want with our watches.  I don't leave my chronograph running all the time, but if other owners take joy in doing so that's great. 

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I have read an article where someone mentioned running the chrono on at all times, but in that instance the chrono was used to track a second time zone.  Sort of like a make shift chrono GMT...

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Sea Dweller today.

 

Mah brother! Wearing one on this chilly Southern Hemisphere winter evening too. It makes me happy.

 

 

 

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I have read an article where someone mentioned running the chrono on at all times, but in that instance the chrono was used to track a second time zone.  Sort of like a make shift chrono GMT...

Its possible, but a true GMT or world time watch would be a lot easier than using a chronograph as a make shift GMT, especially if one has to do that for an extended period. If I were out of the country for a long time with a significant time change I would probably prefer something with a day night indicator.   

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Breathing a sigh of relief for you, Newcomer. Always nice when the prodigal returns.

Thanks man! You aren't kidding, it was all packed up nice and tight when it arrived. My TWAT friends have been so much happier for me than my real life friends...
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Glad to see it made the trip back home so quickly.  Hoping that everything with it is now perfect.  Enjoy it!

Thanks Dino! The power reserve problem is definitely fixed. The only problem I see now is that it is running a bit slow. It lost 16 seconds in the last day... We will see if it settles down though. No use worrying yet.
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mazal tov!!!

dat travel case. man that thing is so damn cool.

Completely worth the free service smile.gif. Thanks man!
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Thanks man! You aren't kidding, it was all packed up nice and tight when it arrived. My TWAT friends have been so much happier for me than my real life friends...


Late to the game here but crazy busy at work.  Glad you got your beloved back so quickly, Nuke!

 

Great discussion about the merits of activating the chrono function.  I tend to switch on the chrono for a few minutes every few weeks or so, but I do agree about liking to see that "sweeping seconds hand."  Not enough for me to get a Patek 5960 (annual calendar chrono with a sweeping seconds hand), and not enough for me to think that the classic 3940 with no sweeping or small seconds hand feels somehow "incomplete"... but the pieces I have that do have a sweeping seconds hand does offer its own charm.

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Thanks man! You aren't kidding, it was all packed up nice and tight when it arrived. My TWAT friends have been so much happier for me than my real life friends...

i find that is almost always the case with my watch goings on as well, lol.
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Completely worth the free service smile.gif. Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post


Late to the game here but crazy busy at work.  Glad you got your beloved back so quickly, Nuke!

Thanks Frilly!!
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i find that is almost always the case with my watch goings on as well, lol.
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Haha amazing how that works, huh? Just found out that one of my IRL friends is a bit of a watch nut, so that is nice.

And in regards to the chrono conversation, I find it kind of funny that people do not really use their chronograph very frequently. Whenever I wear my speedmaster, I use mine VERY frequently. I use it for billing clients (great for taking breaks), I use it to time pasta (of course), for cooking in general, to time how long it takes for my girlfriend to get ready, etc. Probably not the best for the movement, especially since it is a CAM chrono with a horizontal clutch, but if you can use your watch as a tool... you might as well!
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^^ lucky you! i have very few IRL friends, outside of work connections, that share my watch passions. ^^

i dont have a chrono, but i do have OCD, and unless i really NEEDED to time something, id prefer all the hands pointing up and in order. shog[1].gif
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Great discussion about the merits of activating the chrono function.  I tend to switch on the chrono for a few minutes every few weeks or so, but I do agree about liking to see that "sweeping seconds hand."  Not enough for me to get a Patek 5960 (annual calendar chrono with a sweeping seconds hand), and not enough for me to think that the classic 3940 with no sweeping or small seconds hand feels somehow "incomplete"... but the pieces I have that do have a sweeping seconds hand does offer its own charm.

There are watches that need a sweep seconds hand, and ones that don't.  Something sporty like a Rolex, IWC, or Breitling generally needs a sweep second hand, as they are more tool watches.  I can't really picture a Sub without a second hand.  Something kind of in between can look good either way (the early Nautilus Jumbos look good without it, the current 5711 looks good with one). Funny thing, the shape of the sweep seconds hand kind of bothers me on the 15400 and 15300...hence I negated that issue going with the Jumbo which has no second hand.  

 

However, sometimes, I prefer the clean look of just 2 hands and hour markers and nothing else to clutter the design, particularly on a dress watch.  To me a sweep hand would detract from the clean lines of say the VC 1972, and it might distract one from noticing the way the Romans/hour markers are on a slant and  the bottoms continue to mirror the shape of the case.  Adding a second hand might be the equivalent of helping out a famous artist by adding a few extra brush strokes to an otherwise perfect painting.  They came up with a beautiful design and stopped. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

And in regards to the chrono conversation, I find it kind of funny that people do not really use their chronograph very frequently. Whenever I wear my speedmaster, I use mine VERY frequently. I use it for billing clients (great for taking breaks), I use it to time pasta (of course), for cooking in general, to time how long it takes for my girlfriend to get ready, etc. Probably not the best for the movement, especially since it is a CAM chrono with a horizontal clutch, but if you can use your watch as a tool... you might as well!

I used to use the chronograph function of my Daytonas more frequently years ago, particularly for keeping track of billable hours, travel time, parking meters etc.  Now I use it occasionally, but not that often.  I have a friend with a Speedy Pro, a Zenith El Primero, a Breitling Chronograph (I can recall if its a Blackbird), and he never uses the chronograph function at all.  He just likes the sporty appearance of a chronograph.  

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I use my chrono to time my rest between sets at the gym.
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Dino, that VC is stunning. Those funky asymmetrical cases really strike my fancy. For some reason or another, I am drawn to watches with a little bit of quirkiness. The MUT Moon being something of an exception. I feel like I only bond with watches that have that certain element that distinguishes them from the rest of the pack. The MUT Moon has the recessed date wheel which I think really completes the watch. The Speedmaster has the hesalite crystal. I loved the overly thick bezel on the Master Control. Maybe I am just kind of odd like that.

And Stitchy--I have to admit, when you looking down at a running chronograph and every hand is going a different direction, I too have something of a minor freak out. But there is something cool about knowing all that is going into the function, and being able to watch it in motion. Something strangely romantic about being able to literally watch the time move.
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