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Can you please link, I got 20 mins to wait for a client, haha.

lol, i dot want to say what i wrote before i hear the opinion of the masses. want to see completely unbiased opinions, nothing reactionary. also, im a bit :shy: to post it here. ill see what happens after i hear some opinions here.

sorry. dont hate me. frown.gif
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Stitchy, I meant to link to your post that was a few pages ago on SF. smile.gif
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Stitchy, I meant to link to your post that was a few pages ago on SF. smile.gif

oops, lol.

it will be easier for me to just post teh pics again.



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Stitchy, I meant to link to your post that was a few pages ago on SF. smile.gif

oops, lol.

it will be easier for me to just post teh pics again.




Personally, not really a big fan of the more contemporary look of bigger lugs and crown guards, it's just not as streamlined as the older models.

50/50 on the larger markers and hands.

The ceramic bezel is nice as it's scratch resistant and true to colour been black in all conditions.

and got to love the glidelock clasp and solid links.
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That does seem to be the general opinion. I think that I do like the larger case size though.

Speaking of Rolex, I am on my way to go pick up my very own. YAY 4 ME!!1!
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I am no Rolex expert, but for me the new Sub is a wholesale improvement in terms of overall aesthetics, particularly the slightly beefier overall look and the addition of the ceramic bezel. It has moved from a watch that I have always respected but never particularly wanted to own, to one that sits very near the top of the likely next purchase list. Oh, and even if I even if I had the coin to drop on an all-gold version as pictured above, I wouldn't do it. Ever. Nothing screams "I have more dollars than sense!" (among other things) than a showy gold dive watch.
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My Longines Boutique called right before COB today to say my special order as arrived, what a pleasant surprise of only one day wait!

Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases comes in 2 sizes, 41 mm and 44 mm, having a smaller wrist, I picked the 41 mm, and luckily the adjusted bracelet fits my wrist very well, since there is no half links. What really struck me is that how thick is the watch case.... 16 mm, is that common with complication watches? I told myself that I will get used it. As approved by SF members on this thread, I got the white barleycorn dial with contrasting blue hands, it just looks lovely.

Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases L2.738.4.71.6





When the Retrogrades were released a couple of years again, they didn't really do it for me back then; however, since joining this wonderful thread with wonder contributors, yes, you guys, got me interested in watches again. When I was buying a watch for my missus last week, the store manager gave me a Watchtime special on Longines for been a good customer over the years and also the fact everyone knows me in the store. I read about the new Saint-Imier Retrograde Moon Phases, which got me thinking, by adding the moon phases and day/night indicators, and keeping the perfect balance of the dial, I might actually want this. However, it's not perfect, I didn't like arabic numbers as markers and the fat hands, and so so on the lug design of Saint-Imier range.

So after I got home, had a look online and found the Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases, roman dial with dauphine hands and smooth lug design, and I am sold!

This is a beautiful moon phase complication watch with four retrograde hands on the dial. There are: retrograde day indicator and day/night indicator at 12 o’clock, moon phase indicator at 6 o'clock, 24-hour GMT 2nd time zone indicator at the left side of the dial and retrograde date indicator at the right side of the dial. It covers all that I would want on a watch, probably because there is no more room for anything else. With all these complications, does this watch qualifies to be a grand complication?





Its movement L707.2 is exclusively created by ETA for Longines, based on the Valjoux 7750. There are 2 pushers on each side of the watch and the crown, each has its own function, making changes on the display very easy.



Two things I didn't know until I got the watch, the pushers on the side need a stylus to push, I actually thought they were buttons that gets released for pushing when I move the crown into position 2 or 3, but any ball point pen will do the job, and ink doesn't go on the metal casing, I guess this stops me from fiddling with the different functions when I am on the train... There are the external pusher versions, no moon phase version though, and they are $2000 more.... don't know why is there such a price difference.



The 2nd thing is when pulling out the crown, all the retrograde hands reset to zero, luckily it is just a position when the crown is pulled, everything goes back to normal after the crown is pushed back.

I always liked the elegance of a push button butterfly clasp on the bracelet, this one is no different, and the overall polish for the casing and bracelet is great.

Seeing so many movements on the dial will bring great enjoyment and fun to its wearer while appreciating mechanical masterpiece hidden inside the watch, which is visible from the sapphire crystal display back. For its price tag rrp 4625 AUD (actual price I got it for is in the low 3000s), Longines really did an excellent job of creating a classic looking watch with multiple complications and good finishing.
Edited by wurger - 7/24/13 at 7:52pm
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Congrats Wurger and Stitchy!  

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That does seem to be the general opinion. I think that I do like the larger case size though.

Speaking of Rolex, I am on my way to go pick up my very own. YAY 4 ME!!1!

Yes!




Wurger: congrats! That one is far more complicated than anything I own.

I really do like the patterned dial....thanks for posting the pics.
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Get it Stitch! Congrats again man. Wear it in the best of health!
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That does seem to be the general opinion. I think that I do like the larger case size though.

Speaking of Rolex, I am on my way to go pick up my very own. YAY 4 ME!!1!

+1000
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I am no Rolex expert, but for me the new Sub is a wholesale improvement in terms of overall aesthetics, particularly the slightly beefier overall look and the addition of the ceramic bezel. It has moved from a watch that I have always respected but never particularly wanted to own, to one that sits very near the top of the likely next purchase list. Oh, and even if I even if I had the coin to drop on an all-gold version as pictured above, I wouldn't do it. Ever. Nothing screams "I have more dollars than sense!" (among other things) than a showy gold dive watch.

Awesome pickup, looks great on you
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My Longines Boutique called right before COB today to say my special order as arrived, what a pleasant surprise of only one day wait!

Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moonphase comes in 2 sizes, 41 mm and 44 mm, having a smaller wrist, I picked the 41 mm, and luckily the adjusted bracelet fits my wrist very well, since there is no half links. What really struck me is that how thick is the watch case.... 16 mm, is that common with complication watches? I told myself that I will get used it. As approved by SF members on this thread, I got the white barleycorn dial with contrasting blue hands, it just looks lovely.





When the Retrogrades were released a couple of years again, they didn't really do it for me back then; however, since joining this wonderful thread with wonder contributors, yes, you guys, got me interested in watches again. When I was buying a watch for my missus last week, the store manager gave me a Watchtime special on Longines for been a good customer over the years and also the fact everyone knows me in the store. I read about the new Saint-Imier Retrograde Moon Phases, which got me thinking, by adding the moon phases and day/night indicators, and keeping the perfect balance of the dial, I might actually want this. However, it's not perfect, I didn't like arabic numbers as markers and the fat hands, and so so on the lug design of Saint-Imier range.

So after I got home, had a look online and found the Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases, roman dial with dauphine hands and smooth lug design, and I am sold!

This is a beautiful moon phase complication watch with four retrograde hands on the dial. There are: retrograde day indicator and day/night indicator at 12 o’clock, moon phase indicator at 6 o'clock, 24-hour GMT 2nd time zone indicator at the left side of the dial and retrograde date indicator at the right side of the dial. It covers all that I would want on a watch, probably because there is no more room for anything else. With all these complications, does this watch qualifies to be a grand complication?





Its movement L707.2 is exclusively created by ETA for Longines, based on the Valjoux 7750. There are 2 pushers on each side of the watch and the crown, each has its own function, making changes on the display very easy.



Two things I didn't know until I got the watch, the pushers on the side need a stylus to push, I actually thought they were buttons that gets released for pushing when I move the crown into position 2 or 3, but any ball point pen will do the job, and ink doesn't go on the metal casing, I guess this stops me from fiddling with the different functions when I am on the train... There are the external pusher versions, no moon phase version though, and they are $2000 more.... don't know why is there such a price difference.



The 2nd thing is when pulling out the crown, all the retrograde hands reset to zero, luckily it is just a position when the crown is pulled, everything goes back to normal after the crown is pushed back.

I always liked the elegance of a push button butterfly clasp on the bracelet, this one is no different, and the overall polish for the casing and bracelet is great.

Seeing so many movements on the dial will bring great enjoyment and fun to its wearer while appreciating mechanical masterpiece hidden inside the watch, which is visible from the sapphire crystal display back. For its price tag rrp 4625 AUD (actual price I got it for is in the low 3000s), Longines really did an excellent job of creating a classic looking watch with multiple complications and good finishing.
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Congrats Wurger and Stitchy!  
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Yes!
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Get it Stitch! Congrats again man. Wear it in the best of health!

thanks, guys! the watch is in my briefcase!!! its a little more worn than i recalled. superb condition, but some light wear marks. not sure if i will leave it as is, or have the high polish areas touched up. ill get pics later.
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thanks for the replies so far on the sub question. nice to see your opinions.

roger - while i generally tend to shy away from all gold watches with bracelets, i have come to quite like it on the sub and the GMT. just seems to work. i know nothing would appear to be about stature more than an all gold rolex, but i dont care what people think, i think those models are hot.

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WUUUUUUUUUUUURGER!!!!!!!! the new watch looks splendid, homeslice. i love retrogrades. love. thanks for the review and the pics. wear it in good health. cheers.gif
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wurger - congrats on that beautiful Longines my man! stitchy - we like what we like and it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
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Hi,

 

In addition to the recommendations that have been made earlier for my case, I have seen the Cartier Tank Solo XL (automatic movement).

I really like the looks of it, and it is much cheaper than say a Reverso for example even though I know the insides are probably not in the same category.

Any thoughts on this model? It seems to have a pretty interesting history at least

 

Thank you

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stitchy - we like what we like and it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.

aint that the truth! fistbump.gif
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 Dino will probably be disappointed but I've held off on getting that double red Sub.  However, I am meeting with my dealer tomorrow as a family member wants me to look at a piece she's interested in getting, and I did ask him to bring that double red Sub/SD again just so I can look at it one more time....... baldy%5B1%5D.gif

Never disappointed my friend.  You have to feel the love when you try a watch on, in order to pull the trigger.  Very cool watch, but if it doesn't do it for you, I get it.  Wishing you luck whatever you decide!  

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Thanks for this information, helps me to keep a cool head while purchasing.

Glad to help!

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Personally, not really a big fan of the more contemporary look of bigger lugs and crown guards, it's just not as streamlined as the older models.

50/50 on the larger markers and hands.

The ceramic bezel is nice as it's scratch resistant and true to colour been black in all conditions.

and got to love the glidelock clasp and solid links.

I have mixed feelings about the new/current Sub in all gold.  I am not a fan of the larger lugs.  Some how they seem less over the top on the steel version, but I feel it adds a certain amount of additional bling when its in all gold (although, I do like that they are brushed rather polished as on GMTs).  I like the larger luminous markings, and the ceramic bezel (when its a black on gold Sub).  I despise the all gold and steel with gold Sub when its a blue dial and blue ceramic bezel....the blue is too smurfy and I find very unattractive.  I think the only colored ceramic bezel I've seen so far that I like is the black & blue of the new GMT2.  The only Subs the bezels and dials were a usually a much darker and richer blue that I found far more attractive when paired with gold.  

 

The glide lock is a welcome improvement.  As for solid links, all gold Submariners have had solid gold links in their bracelets for more than 2 decades, so that isn't new to the current generation of gold Subs.

 

I think there are some nice improvements with the current Sub vs vintage, but my preference as to overall appearance of the gold Subs would be in favor of previous or vintage Subs. 

 

As for Stitchy's blog, you have a product to market and sell, so what you write for customers should be different than what our overall feelings may be about a current gold Sub.  We still Luv ya man!cheers.gif

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Speaking of Rolex, I am on my way to go pick up my very own. YAY 4 ME!!1!

Fantastic!  Congrats!!! Looking forward to seeing some wrist shots soon!

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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

My Longines Boutique called right before COB today to say my special order as arrived, what a pleasant surprise of only one day wait!

Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moonphase comes in 2 sizes, 41 mm and 44 mm, having a smaller wrist, I picked the 41 mm, and luckily the adjusted bracelet fits my wrist very well, since there is no half links. What really struck me is that how thick is the watch case.... 16 mm, is that common with complication watches? I told myself that I will get used it. As approved by SF members on this thread, I got the white barleycorn dial with contrasting blue hands, it just looks lovely.


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When the Retrogrades were released a couple of years again, they didn't really do it for me back then; however, since joining this wonderful thread with wonder contributors, yes, you guys, got me interested in watches again. When I was buying a watch for my missus last week, the store manager gave me a Watchtime special on Longines for been a good customer over the years and also the fact everyone knows me in the store. I read about the new Saint-Imier Retrograde Moon Phases, which got me thinking, by adding the moon phases and day/night indicators, and keeping the perfect balance of the dial, I might actually want this. However, it's not perfect, I didn't like arabic numbers as markers and the fat hands, and so so on the lug design of Saint-Imier range.

So after I got home, had a look online and found the Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases, roman dial with dauphine hands and smooth lug design, and I am sold!

This is a beautiful moon phase complication watch with four retrograde hands on the dial. There are: retrograde day indicator and day/night indicator at 12 o’clock, moon phase indicator at 6 o'clock, 24-hour GMT 2nd time zone indicator at the left side of the dial and retrograde date indicator at the right side of the dial. It covers all that I would want on a watch, probably because there is no more room for anything else.

 

With all these complications, does this watch qualifies to be a grand complication?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 






Its movement L707.2 is exclusively created by ETA for Longines, based on the Valjoux 7750. There are 2 pushers on each side of the watch and the crown, each has its own function, making changes on the display very easy.



Two things I didn't know until I got the watch, the pushers on the side need a stylus to push, I actually thought they were buttons that gets released for pushing when I move the crown into position 2 or 3, but any ball point pen will do the job, and ink doesn't go on the metal casing, I guess this stops me from fiddling with the different functions when I am on the train... There are the external pusher versions, no moon phase version though, and they are $2000 more.... don't know why is there such a price difference.



The 2nd thing is when pulling out the crown, all the retrograde hands reset to zero, luckily it is just a position when the crown is pulled, everything goes back to normal after the crown is pushed back.

I always liked the elegance of a push button butterfly clasp on the bracelet, this one is no different, and the overall polish for the casing and bracelet is great.

Seeing so many movements on the dial will bring great enjoyment and fun to its wearer while appreciating mechanical masterpiece hidden inside the watch, which is visible from the sapphire crystal display back. For its price tag rrp 4625 AUD (actual price I got it for is in the low 3000s), Longines really did an excellent job of creating a classic looking watch with multiple complications and good finishing.

 

 

 

Wurger Congrats!!!  That's a beauty.  Retrogrades are very cool.  I'm sure you will really enjoy it.

 

That is a really thick watch, but often times when there are lots of complications a watch does get quite thick.

 

I don't believe your watch would qualify as a grand complication.  Granted it has several functions, but my understanding was that grand complications are a particular category of watches that combine some very difficult to make complications.  Watches that are grand complications tend to combine Chronograph or Spit Second Chronographs, with Perpetual Calendars, Minute Repeaters, (maybe Equation of Time), and any combination of those functions. If you check wiki, they state it must have at least 1 item from a chart they have with timing complications (chronographs of some sort), astronomical complications ( perpetual calendar, equation of time, moon phase etc), and a striking complication (minute repeater, alarm etc).  So if going by their definition, your watch is missing a chronograph and chiming device of some sort.  I don't know that it necessarily needs a complication from all three categories, however all of the complications on yours fall under 1 category.  In the end you bought a watch you really like, its very handsome and your will enjoy it so that's what really matters.  

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