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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

I have one, my only Speedmaster in fact. The case shape is perhaps a bit dated, but still rather cool. The original bracelet is a flimsy affair, an Omega mesh is however perfect both for looks and comfort.

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Yes! NonServiam! That's a great shot....love the fade on those hour markers.
post #23102 of 33554
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Here was the state of my collection a good couple years ago, and it has... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
grown since then. I have at least one shoe from each brand represented that I would care to own, and to be honest, with as much as I have moved around lately... lugging around 30 shoes in their boxes has grown OLD. During my last move, I did a shoe trip in my car. That is embarrassing. I barely wear each pair more than a dozen times a year. Most of them I wear less. The beautiful thing about watches is that even if you own 5, 6, 7, whatever, you can rotate them much easier. After I reached 30 some odd pairs of shoes, rotating them is just a hassle. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And that Reverso really is spectacular! I am glad we are on board together on this one.
And I am with you on the Montblanc. I love that model.
Also, I am kind of surprised that people are disavowing MB as a watch manufacture. I understand that they make pens. But with the purchase of Minerva, they have some pretty serious horological street cred. Plus, they have enough of a financial backing that I would not be too concerned with parts availability. They seem to be pumping out great watches with interesting complications at incredibly reasonably prices.

very awesome shoes. my shoe collection stands at about 12, and im happy there.

i have no beef with MB as a watch maker, but im not exactly enamored by them either. i just love that NR model cuz it beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Some years ago, I saw several articles about a watch that winds itself as a result of changes in temperature. There's some temperature sensitive metal spring inside that coils and uncoils as a result of very small changes in temperature.
At the time, folks seemed very excited about this technology, and it was the next big thing.
Anyone ever seen a watch that incorporates these principles?

as mentioned, the only thing close i know of are the JLC atmos clocks, which are friggin awesome.
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Originally Posted by HorseHide View Post

I know you've all been anxiously waiting for an update on my search for a dual time zone watch. Well, I believe that the JLC Master Geographic will be my next watch. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
For me it has proven to be the easiest to read and it provides a very simple mechanism to adjust time zones (although the mechanical memory Breguet for $78k was pretty sweet icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif). And like all JLCs that I've seen, the design and craftsmanship are impeccable.

I did look at a number of other pieces, several of which were intriguing (Frederique Constant seemed to be a great value; the AP Dual Time was impressive but I can't justify the price). The modern pieces that several members suggested were "interesting" but not for me. And several pieces (the JLC Hometime for instance) just didn't work for me - I still ended up "calculating" the time in the "other place" instead of just reading it (JLC's reverse 24 hour GMT dial - the "reference time indicator" - which is on the Hometime and the Reverso might as well have been in sanskrit). My wife and kids remind me periodically about my cognitive limitations - I don't need to spend big money for a watch which confirms what they say!

One [unsolicited] observation about the whole watch buying "process" - it really sucks. I am new to the "watch thing" and my prior purchases have been limited to a few Rolex models where I really knew what I wanted. This was different, I was looking for help and it oftentimes wasn't available. Tourneau/Chicago was the worst - it seems as if the salespeople believe that they can make up for their lack of knowledge with an unpleasant, condescending attitude. For the life of me, I can't understand how they sell anything. Oh well, I guess that's why there's vanilla and chocolate.

Next step is figuring out what to do with a two month old Explorer II....

Thanks to everyone for their input/suggestions. This thread is wonderful - extremely informative without drama or BS.

congrats!!!!! awesome.

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have some watches i am getting ready for sale, hope to share some nice pr0n later today. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

edit - NS, that omega looks great.
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Originally Posted by HorseHide View Post

I know you've all been anxiously waiting for an update on my search for a dual time zone watch. Well, I believe that the JLC Master Geographic will be my next watch. For me it has proven to be the easiest to read and it provides a very simple mechanism to adjust time zones (although the mechanical memory Breguet for $78k was pretty sweet icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif). And like all JLCs that I've seen, the design and craftsmanship are impeccable.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I did look at a number of other pieces, several of which were intriguing (Frederique Constant seemed to be a great value; the AP Dual Time was impressive but I can't justify the price). The modern pieces that several members suggested were "interesting" but not for me. And several pieces (the JLC Hometime for instance) just didn't work for me - I still ended up "calculating" the time in the "other place" instead of just reading it (JLC's reverse 24 hour GMT dial - the "reference time indicator" - which is on the Hometime and the Reverso might as well have been in sanskrit). My wife and kids remind me periodically about my cognitive limitations - I don't need to spend big money for a watch which confirms what they say!

 


One [unsolicited] observation about the whole watch buying "process" - it really sucks. I am new to the "watch thing" and my prior purchases have been limited to a few Rolex models where I really knew what I wanted. This was different, I was looking for help and it oftentimes wasn't available. Tourneau/Chicago was the worst - it seems as if the salespeople believe that they can make up for their lack of knowledge with an unpleasant, condescending attitude. For the life of me, I can't understand how they sell anything. Oh well, I guess that's why there's vanilla and chocolate.

Next step is figuring out what to do with a two month old Explorer II....

Thanks to everyone for their input/suggestions. This thread is wonderful - extremely informative without drama or BS.

Congrats on the Geographic.  Simply a great watch, with superb quality and incredibly easy to adjust and read.  If I did a lot of traveling, I would definitely buy one.  I've tried out several GMT watches and world time watches, and I always come away thinking the Geographic is the simplest to adjust and easiest to read.  I am sure you will be really happy with it.  Congrats and enjoy!

 

I suppose you could always sell the Ex2 if you don't think you will use it or enjoy it.  I have an old previous generation Ex2 that I like and wear often, but I don't have the issues with the GMT function that bother you.

 

As for Tourneau, no matter where they are in the country, its as though when they interview potential sales associates they only pick people that have the least knowledge and least interest in watches, but the biggest attitudes.   Its a place you can go to window shop but that's about it.  There are much better shops and sales associates you can deal with in almost any major area. 

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Master Geo has the 12 and the 9 on it, right? Not just the 9? Must Google.

EDIT: Yes, I like that one.

Prestige has a nice close-up of the dial.

We want pictures when you get it, HorseHide.
Edited by Keith T - 7/17/13 at 12:05pm
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I thought I was going to get to pick up my watch today, but due to a paperwork delay I won't get it until this coming Monday at the earliest, possibly Wednesday or Thursday.

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Boo! That sux.
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Sorry RP - late to the party

I've always thought that particular MB was interesting but like you, would be reticent to buy it new. But from those pics, it looks like the dial is well done, and the overall design is beautiful. If the price was right, you could do far far worse.

R
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

I think their horological credibility comes from designing and crafting a first rate in-house chronograph movement. How long did it take the likes of IWC to offer something better than the pedestrian Valjoux 7750 in their chronograph models? For how many decades now has Zenith been resting on their El Primero Laurels? That said, they are certainly a good way from achieving widesread acceptance among enthusiast circles where, let's face it, branding plays a huge role in purchase choices.That is something I only see improving for MB as time progresses. And the upside is that the prices for their better timepieces take a real dive on secondary market. At least, that's an upside if you are shopping the secondary market like I am.In fairness, I did ask to be talked out of it, and understand many of the reservations expressed by others even if I don't share them all.
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Boo! That sux.

it so does. frown.gif

but some of these i am getting ready to sell/put up for sale, might cheer us up!

Solid 18k Sub




Chopard Milli Miglia (no box or papers here frown.gif )




Omega Seamaster with the Calibre 8500








And for you bling lovers, a giant 48.4mm Diamond Bezel Super Avenger











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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

Sorry RP - late to the party

I've always thought that particular MB was interesting but like you, would be reticent to buy it new. But from those pics, it looks like the dial is well done, and the overall design is beautiful. If the price was right, you could do far far worse.

R

 

Thanks my man - always happy to have your input. At anywhere close to retail this would be no deal. My local retailer put it succintly when I asked him how many of these he has sold: "$10k watch buyers aren't shopping Montblanc". I wouldn't do this deal unles the price were VERY right, but based on initial conversations with the seller, I suspect we would arrive at a very comfortable number. The dial layout is polarizing, but it is a fairly interesting take on the first and original chronograph invented by Riuessec - which was not a watch, but a table box, with two adjacet rotating disks to measure time. Like or loathe the look, there is at least some horological authenticity to the design choice. It's actually pretty rare these days that I pay anywhere close to retail for a watch, because I so rarely buy brand new. Too many 3-year-old and younger pieces in mint condition on the secondary market. Stitchy - nice lineup - is that AT 8500 the 38.5mm size? Apologies for the giant block of text - for some reason paragraph breaks are completely ignored.
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Aqua Terra seems like a great all-arounder, or One Watch, for those who might be so inclined.

Sort of like a larger DateJust.

I hear good things about the movement.
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Aqua Terra seems like a great all-arounder, or One Watch, for those who might be so inclined.

Sort of like a larger DateJust.

I hear good things about the movement.

 

Could not agree more. I kinda miss mine. Omegas 8500 and 9300 series movements are top notch, IMO.
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Did you trade in / trade up, RogerP? (If you don't mind my asking) ... just get tired of it, perhaps?
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

 

As for Tourneau, no matter where they are in the country, its as though when they interview potential sales associates they only pick people that have the least knowledge and least interest in watches, but the biggest attitudes.   Its a place you can go to window shop but that's about it.  There are much better shops and sales associates you can deal with in almost any major area. 

 

Strange Tourneau experience yesterday here in NYC too:

 

1.  Tourneau on 57th street: Too much condescension and lack of attention when I walked in inquiring about a ladies Nautilus.  Finally I tire of said treatment and take off my suit jacket.  Had my 3970 in yellow gold on.  Salesperson finally checks me out, doesn't even know what I'm wearing.  Presumably his manager comes by after a minute and gushes over the 3970 and proceeds to fawn over me.  Ick.

 

2.  Walk over to Tiffany to pick up a gift I got for the wife (6th floor customer service).  Cheap purchase, but treated very well.  Go down to the mezzanine level to the Patek salon and had a lovely conversation with the young lady staffing the place that afternoon.  Spoke about current models, pocket watches, etc.  Fairly well informed, great manners.  Loved the experience.

 

Also, she was kind of hot.  Won't rule out that factor in terms of why I enjoyed the experience.

 

3.  Headed to Wempe to say hello - know many of the salespeople there (if I go AD I usually buy at Wempe).  Drinks offered, chatted to folks who weren't busy, President of Wempe stopped by and said hello. Asked about the 5711 he sold me, told him he ain't buying it back from me just yet.  Super nice guy, down to earth.  Loved the experience.

 

And all this from stores who are in direct competition with each other, a few blocks apart.  Friend who used to work for Tourneau and who moved to Wempe basically said everyone who works for Tourneau wishes they could leave... and work for Wempe haha. 

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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Did you trade in / trade up, RogerP? (If you don't mind my asking) ... just get tired of it, perhaps?

 

I sold both the AT and a lovely Grand Seiko GMT to help fund the purchase of an 18k Moser Mayu. I was exceedingly happy with all aspects of both the departed watches.
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Omega Seamaster with the Calibre 8500




 

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