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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Dopey, it could be a family thing, a cultural thing (a friend from India told me its a big brand for gifts among Indian people), the right price range, or the giver just likes the brand. No matter what the reason for the chosen brand, its very nice of that family member or friend to offer such a gift. I hope you are not implying Kid should ask if he could have a choice of other brands. I think that would be very inappropriate, and possibly insulting to the giver. The fact that your Dad offered to let you choise from a few brands is nice, but not really relevant. Even if a Rado isn't his grail watch it could have special meaning to him because of who gives it to him. While we all tend to be brutally honest here and joke around a lot, I think this is a situation where Kid should pick something in line with the giver's wishes and be thankful.
I was just curious. Obviously, when someone offers you a gift, you say thank you, and I wasn't suggesting he say anything else. It just seemed odd. It also seems odd that Rado would have some significnce as a gift in India. I would love to hear about that. A personal idiosyncratic favorite of the gift giver makes some sense. But that a whole country likes it is bizarre. Maybe Koreans give Hublots and Saudis give Ebels (actually, there is some truth to that -Ebel used to be very popular in the Middle East for a while).
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It also seems odd that Rado would have some significnce as a gift in India. I would love to hear about that. A personal idiosyncratic favorite of the gift giver makes some sense.

Sorry Dopey, I'm not Indian nor have I had lots of friends from India. So I can't really shed much light on why its popular with people from India. What I can tell you is a friend who was Indian and who's family owned a high end watch and jewelry store for 20 years (carried Lange, VC, Rolex, GP, BP, Panerai, Piaget, Breitling, Omega, Tag, Rado etc), told me Rado is really popular among Indians, and it is often a gift for special occasions. That's all I can say about that.

When I was growing up I knew a few kids that got a Rolex for graduating from high school, college, or grad school. It's just what their parents liked and often they owned one themselves.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

dont say that.
you may say that.

dood. that is one of my many many grails. LOVE it. have loved that for a while. especially love the tower shaped tourbillon back situation.

gimme.

Here was the state of my collection a good couple years ago, and it has... grown since then. I have at least one shoe from each brand represented that I would care to own, and to be honest, with as much as I have moved around lately... lugging around 30 shoes in their boxes has grown OLD. During my last move, I did a shoe trip in my car. That is embarrassing. I barely wear each pair more than a dozen times a year. Most of them I wear less. The beautiful thing about watches is that even if you own 5, 6, 7, whatever, you can rotate them much easier. After I reached 30 some odd pairs of shoes, rotating them is just a hassle.

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And that Reverso really is spectacular! I am glad we are on board together on this one.

And I am with you on the Montblanc. I love that model.

Also, I am kind of surprised that people are disavowing MB as a watch manufacture. I understand that they make pens. But with the purchase of Minerva, they have some pretty serious horological street cred. Plus, they have enough of a financial backing that I would not be too concerned with parts availability. They seem to be pumping out great watches with interesting complications at incredibly reasonably prices.
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Some years ago, I saw several articles about a watch that winds itself as a result of changes in temperature. There's some temperature sensitive metal spring inside that coils and uncoils as a result of very small changes in temperature.

At the time, folks seemed very excited about this technology, and it was the next big thing.

Anyone ever seen a watch that incorporates these principles?
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Some years ago, I saw several articles about a watch that winds itself as a result of changes in temperature. There's some temperature sensitive metal spring inside that coils and uncoils as a result of very small changes in temperature.

At the time, folks seemed very excited about this technology, and it was the next big thing.

Anyone ever seen a watch that incorporates these principles?

Not sure - My grandparents bought a JLC for my dad in Switzerland in the 70's and it broke on the plane on the way home. I am pretty sure it was an Atmospheric movement, but I can't find any record of that having existed in a wrist watch either... anyone know this one either?
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Sorry Dopey, I'm not Indian nor have I had lots of friends from India. So I can't really shed much light on why its popular with people from India. What I can tell you is a friend who was Indian and who's family owned a high end watch and jewelry store for 20 years (carried Lange, VC, Rolex, GP, BP, Panerai, Piaget, Breitling, Omega, Tag, Rado etc), told me Rado is really popular among Indians, and it is often a gift for special occasions. That's all I can say about that.

When I was growing up I knew a few kids that got a Rolex for graduating from high school, college, or grad school. It's just what their parents liked and often they owned one themselves.

I got a Rolex from my parents when I reached the ripe old age of 21. Know another girl who got a Rolex after she graduated from college. Have no idea why I felt like sharing all that, but when I think about it now and look back, I led a pretty sheltered life pre-parental emancipation. Hmm... shog[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Omega Male View Post

Uh huh. Yeah. inlove.gif











Great watch. The Cotes de Soliere finishing on the back is great to gawk at in real life. Love how they decided to go all stealth with the tourby, not unlike PP.

For me it's a toss up between that one or the platinum Sun Moon as my one and only platinum Reverso/rectangular watch. Have to admit thought that the price difference ($15k for the SM vs $55k for the tourby) is somewhat biasing me towards the SM...

Unless of course JLC releases a platinum cased Reverso with a white enamel dial and solid caseback... icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Some years ago, I saw several articles about a watch that winds itself as a result of changes in temperature. There's some temperature sensitive metal spring inside that coils and uncoils as a result of very small changes in temperature.

At the time, folks seemed very excited about this technology, and it was the next big thing.

Anyone ever seen a watch that incorporates these principles?

That company was Citizen, that specific watch line was "Eco Drive Thermo", and they discontinued the line some time ago.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

Not sure - My grandparents bought a JLC for my dad in Switzerland in the 70's and it broke on the plane on the way home. I am pretty sure it was an Atmospheric movement, but I can't find any record of that having existed in a wrist watch either... anyone know this one either?

Pretty sure JLC has never made a "Atmos" style watch.

You may be thinking of the "Futurematic" watches in which the selling point was that the watch had no crown - no need to wind the watch!! ZOMG!!! At the time of release nearly all watches were manual winds so it was pretty amazeballs at the time.

(the Futurematic was actually just an automatic bumper movement, heh.)

Also the Atmos movement is pretty finicky to setup in a clock, can't imagine how it will hold up to the greater stresses watches experience. Second the Atmos movements are so energy-poor (well, they do live off air) that the pendulum within it (equivalent to the balance wheel/spring in a watch) only rotates twice a minute and is different from the usual clock pendulums which swing back/forth.
Edited by apropos - 7/16/13 at 11:46pm
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You know, I hate to say it, but I am kind of over shoes wow.gif
 

 

Nuke!  Wash your mouth out with soap!!!

 

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Haha, most of the watches we talk about here are worth at least more than 10 pairs of shoes, that's more than one's entire shoe collection. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

There are definitely plenty of watches on here worth more than everything I own.  But ten pairs of shoes...isn't that...normal?

 

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You are funny mister. Maybe half, but probably not.

 

Quite.

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post


While we all tend to be brutally honest here and joke around a lot, I think this is a situation where Kid should pick something in line with the giver's wishes and be thankful.

 

This must be the only thread on SF where a moral principle has ever been expressed.  Amen!

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post


A really understated but fantastic Reverso!

 

I have never seen that before.  It is absolutely breathtaking.  Thanks OM!

 

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Here was the state of my collection a good couple years ago, and it has... grown since then. I have at least one shoe from each brand represented that I would care to own, and to be honest, with as much as I have moved around lately... lugging around 30 shoes in their boxes has grown OLD. During my last move, I did a shoe trip in my car. That is embarrassing. I barely wear each pair more than a dozen times a year. Most of them I wear less. The beautiful thing about watches is that even if you own 5, 6, 7, whatever, you can rotate them much easier. After I reached 30 some odd pairs of shoes, rotating them is just a hassle.
 

Well if you are keeping it to ten, that looks like a pretty good ten to have!  But why are you lugging them around?  Stop moving and start rotating! 

 

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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

 JLC releases a platinum cased Reverso with a white enamel dial and solid caseback... icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
 

 

Oh my word, yes please!

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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

I actually like the Speedy Mark II (somebody around here has one...Singular?) but hadn't really made the connection w/ Rado.

I have one, my only Speedmaster in fact. The case shape is perhaps a bit dated, but still rather cool. The original bracelet is a flimsy affair, an Omega mesh is however perfect both for looks and comfort.

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I would rock that watch in a heartbeat, NS.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post



Well if you are keeping it to ten, that looks like a pretty good ten to have!  But why are you lugging them around?  Stop moving and start rotating! 

Oh no--that is just a small fraction. I have around 30 pairs right now nod[1].gif. I just meant that I live a fairly transitory life right now. I have moved to a different apartment every year for the last... 7 years or so? It is just a pain in the ass to move all those shoes around!

And so it looks like I am having a little bit of a problem with my JLC butbut.gif

It looks like it keeps on dying at 11:45 p.m., right before midnight. I am guessing it is a problem with not having enough power to go through with the date transfer. Going to do a few more experiments, but it has died at 11:45 several days in a row now.
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Nuke, that is a lot of shoes! I have 14 pairs of leather shoes that I actually wear. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post


I got a Rolex from my parents when I reached the ripe old age of 21. Know another girl who got a Rolex after she graduated from college. Have no idea why I felt like sharing all that, but when I think about it now and look back, I led a pretty sheltered life pre-parental emancipation. Hmm... shog[1].gif
 

 

No worries about .  Always interesting to hear what some of our first good watches were and the occasion that marked them.  I have a few pieces that marked special occasions, law school, first real job, anniversary etc.

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

This must be the only thread on SF where a moral principle has ever been expressed.  Amen!

 

Sorry Mimo, I'll try not to let it happen again wink.gif

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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post


I have one, my only Speedmaster in fact. The case shape is perhaps a bit dated, but still rather cool. The original bracelet is a flimsy affair, an Omega mesh is however perfect both for looks and comfort.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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I like some of the 70's designs.  I think they are quirky and fun.  I'd have not problem enjoying a Speedy Mark II.  As for the original bracelet...very few bracelets were great back in the 70s.  Maybe the three best bracelets I've seen from the 70s were on the AP RO, PP Nautilus, and VC 222...but even they had the inexpensive stamped steel folding inner blade that you would find on Rolex watches back then.  

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And I am with you on the Montblanc. I love that model.

Also, I am kind of surprised that people are disavowing MB as a watch manufacture. I understand that they make pens. But with the purchase of Minerva, they have some pretty serious horological street cred. Plus, they have enough of a financial backing that I would not be too concerned with parts availability. They seem to be pumping out great watches with interesting complications at incredibly reasonably prices.

If people love a particular watch they should definitely go for it.  Roger asked to be talked out of it, I tried to do so without going over the top.  Public opinion means very little since only the buyer has to wear it.  Minerva was/is a fine company, but IMHO purchasing Minerva does very little to add credibility, history, value, or beauty to Mont Blanc watches.   Porsche Design bought Eterna so they could be a manufacturer... but it hasn't done anything for them in terms of creating beautiful designs, coherent collections, desirability, resale, or a perception of good value.  

 

I've always found Mont Blanc watches overpriced, glitzy, and lacking enough substance to truly set them apart from or make them a meaningful competitor with similarly priced watches.  So there are other brands I'd much prefer to own.  If an MB some how fills a void in someone's collection, or they love the design, then the person should buy it.  No watch can be everything to everyone.  Even if someone posted a watch that isn't something I would choose to own I would still be happy for my SF Bro as its something that makes him happy.  

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I know you've all been anxiously waiting for an update on my search for a dual time zone watch. Well, I believe that the JLC Master Geographic will be my next watch. For me it has proven to be the easiest to read and it provides a very simple mechanism to adjust time zones (although the mechanical memory Breguet for $78k was pretty sweet icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif). And like all JLCs that I've seen, the design and craftsmanship are impeccable.

I did look at a number of other pieces, several of which were intriguing (Frederique Constant seemed to be a great value; the AP Dual Time was impressive but I can't justify the price). The modern pieces that several members suggested were "interesting" but not for me. And several pieces (the JLC Hometime for instance) just didn't work for me - I still ended up "calculating" the time in the "other place" instead of just reading it (JLC's reverse 24 hour GMT dial - the "reference time indicator" - which is on the Hometime and the Reverso might as well have been in sanskrit). My wife and kids remind me periodically about my cognitive limitations - I don't need to spend big money for a watch which confirms what they say!

One [unsolicited] observation about the whole watch buying "process" - it really sucks. I am new to the "watch thing" and my prior purchases have been limited to a few Rolex models where I really knew what I wanted. This was different, I was looking for help and it oftentimes wasn't available. Tourneau/Chicago was the worst - it seems as if the salespeople believe that they can make up for their lack of knowledge with an unpleasant, condescending attitude. For the life of me, I can't understand how they sell anything. Oh well, I guess that's why there's vanilla and chocolate.

Next step is figuring out what to do with a two month old Explorer II....

Thanks to everyone for their input/suggestions. This thread is wonderful - extremely informative without drama or BS.
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And I am with you on the Montblanc. I love that model.

Also, I am kind of surprised that people are disavowing MB as a watch manufacture. I understand that they make pens. But with the purchase of Minerva, they have some pretty serious horological street cred. Plus, they have enough of a financial backing that I would not be too concerned with parts availability. They seem to be pumping out great watches with interesting complications at incredibly reasonably prices.

 

I think their horological credibility comes from designing and crafting a first rate in-house chronograph movement. How long did it take the likes of IWC to offer something better than the pedestrian Valjoux 7750 in their chronograph models? For how many decades now has Zenith been resting on their El Primero Laurels? That said, they are certainly a good way from achieving widesread acceptance among enthusiast circles where, let's face it, branding plays a huge role in purchase choices. That is something I only see improving for MB as time progresses. And the upside is that the prices for their better timepieces take a real dive on secondary market. At least, that's an upside if you are shopping the secondary market like I am. In fairness, I did ask to be talked out of it, and understand many of the reservations expressed by others even if I don't share them all.
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