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Or at least, you will be when that new watch arrives...for a while...contentment is a most elusive mistress. smile.gif
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One of my watch goals for 2013 was being content and happy with my collection. It is a difficult exercise. I have already found a candidate for leaving my watch box (Omega Planet Ocean) and a candidate for taking its place. For some reason, the monetary diff of out and in is never in my favour. Why is that? smile.gif

The orange PO was my summer beater for a while, and I do find it an excellent everyday watch. Still, I have a few Rolexes on bracelets, and usually end up with them instead. My white Exp II has become my go-to watch for any adventure summer or winter, or if the adventure involves submersion, I'll use my 16610, the only watch that gets a yearly test of water resistance. I've also come to prefer the thinner Oyster-cases to the more beefy PO. Still love the orange bezel, though!

The in-candidate? I'll get back to that one. Both the model and the complication has featured on TWAT recently satisfied.gif

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post #22848 of 35627
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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

One of my watch goals for 2013 was being content and happy with my collection. It is a difficult exercise. I have already found a candidate for leaving my watch box (Omega Planet Ocean) and a candidate for taking its place. For some reason, the monetary diff of out and in is never in my favour. Why is that? smile.gif

The orange PO was my summer beater for a while, and I do find it an excellent everyday watch. Still, I have a few Rolexes on bracelets, and usually end up with them instead. My white Exp II has become my go-to watch for any adventure summer or winter, or if the adventure involves submersion, I'll use my 16610, the only watch that gets a yearly test of water resistance. I've also come to prefer the thinner Oyster-cases to the more beefy PO. Still love the orange bezel, though!

The in-candidate? I'll get back to that one. Both the model and the complication has featured on TWAT recently satisfied.gif

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I've often looked at this one and tried it on just because of the orange bezel.

 

 

Nice looking watch.

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Or at least, you will be when that new watch arrives...for a while...contentment is a most elusive mistress. smile.gif

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I've often looked at this one and tried it on just because of the orange bezel.
Nice looking watch.

Plus one. Looking forward to hearing about your potential new watch in, NS.
post #22850 of 35627
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i think you should head to PP and commission your very own MR, tourb, perp cal split seconds chrono. if ever there was an end game piece, that would be it id think.

as to maker, you love PP so i see no reason to venture to another maker, if you do, youll just end up back on the hunt for a PP MR. also, i would wager your MR comes in 2014. devil.gif

 

I've asked.  nod[1].gif

 

Interestingly they rarely do such commission-based work anymore.  A ton of work and not enough scale for profitability; yes, they'll charge the client enough to cover the costs, but with limited resources they could have put their watchmakers to work on pieces that could be "mass produced" (to the extent that 53,000 watches a year, 25% of them quartz pieces, is "mass production"), sold potentially for higher margins and help build the brand versus being relegated to one person's private collection.  The kind of people for whom PP feels "compelled" to produce special pieces also tend to be savvy negotiators who rarely allow them to charge high margins.  There is one collector in the West Coast who has over 400 Pateks and who keeps the pieces in a safe, employing one person part-time to catalogue and update his collection.  There are Sultans in the Middle East who demand a visit from Thierry Stern every year or so; these are the folks for whom PP might do commission-based work.  Unfortunately, "Sultan No Frills" doesn't quite make the cut.  Heehee.

 

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Thanks for the explanation, No frills, and now I am reading up on PP MR, I actually didn't know what MR stood for, shog[1].gif

 

They are strange beasts and are fiendishly rare and difficult to execute, at least at the level of finishing and decoration that PP usually requires.  I am not completely convinced that the complication is (a) really to my liking or (b) worth the LARGE premium versus the stuff I already have.  But there may be little ways for me to own some nice complications without completely breaking the bank.

 

I know Nuke posted this a while back but here's a little video from Hodinkee showcasing the current PP minute repeater collection:

 

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/video-the-entire-patek-philippe-minute-repeater-collection-chiming-for-your-enjoyment

 

Even cooler if you could actually have been there to try one on, right?

 

 

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Cares about ridding you of all your money, that is smile.gif.

Frills: thank you much for the response, I really do find it very interesting! And you know, you certainly picked the right brand to sing to you! Does not get much better than that!

And I completely understand what you are saying. You don't really have any desired that need to be sated at this point in time, so there is no real "need" to go out there and pick up that DRSD. I am glad you have reached--to an extent--a sense of calm within your collection. I too have reached a state of relative calm, although that might be a function of currently having no income shog[1].gif. It does feel nice when you are OK with "window shopping." I guess it is like being happy in a relationship, but taking the odd glance every now and then smile.gif. It sounds like the DRSD may have been close to causing you to stray though...

 

Hahaha, that too.  icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

I am sated and I'm happy I can say no.  The Hunger(TM) is a truly terrible thing to experience and feed.  I'm glad you brought up the relationship analogy.  This analogy is going to be horribly flawed, but here goes: I'm quite happy with my wife and family, immensely so.  That doesn't mean I don't do a double-take every single time I see your avatar, Nuke

 

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Or at least, you will be when that new watch arrives...for a while...contentment is a most elusive mistress. smile.gif

 

Don't I know it.

 

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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

One of my watch goals for 2013 was being content and happy with my collection. It is a difficult exercise. I have already found a candidate for leaving my watch box (Omega Planet Ocean) and a candidate for taking its place. For some reason, the monetary diff of out and in is never in my favour. Why is that? smile.gif

 

An admirable goal to be sure.  The hunt and the attendant adrenaline and endorphin rush is I'm sure part of the process why we still look around for "that next piece."  I'm just happy I feel somewhat sated right now.

 

With that said, I've exchanged about 15 emails with a couple of dealers over the last 48 hours for my "2015 plans."  baldy[1].gif

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I've asked.  nod%5B1%5D.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Interestingly they rarely do such commission-based work anymore.  A ton of work and not enough scale for profitability; yes, they'll charge the client enough to cover the costs, but with limited resources they could have put their watchmakers to work on pieces that could be "mass produced" (to the extent that 53,000 watches a year, 25% of them quartz pieces, is "mass production"), sold potentially for higher margins and help build the brand versus being relegated to one person's private collection.  The kind of people for whom PP feels "compelled" to produce special pieces also tend to be savvy negotiators who rarely allow them to charge high margins.  There is one collector in the West Coast who has over 400 Pateks and who keeps the pieces in a safe, employing one person part-time to catalogue and update his collection.  There are Sultans in the Middle East who demand a visit from Thierry Stern every year or so; these are the folks for whom PP might do commission-based work.  Unfortunately, "Sultan No Frills" doesn't quite make the cut.  Heehee.

that is pretty awesome.

did you ask for the combo i offered? if not, please do and get back to me on the price.

in all honestly though, if i had absurd amounts of money, i would have no problem paying extreme premiums for a one of kind personal PP model. millions if necessary.
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Wempe has two versions of the Rolex Skydweller in its windows on 5th Ave. I was shocked that the watch and dial looks pretty good in person and not nearly as ugly as I thought from the promo photos. Seriously - I have only two complaints: One- it is a bit big (perhaps the movement, which is pretty complex, requires that); and two, I hate the cyclops date bubble. I will never, ever wear a watch with that bubble on it.
But if you take away the cyclops, it is actually a nice looking watch in person. I was really surprised but how much different and better it looks. And, of course, the size is more a matter of personal taste and proportion. Since most people don't share my cyclops hate, and this is really a fantastic and useful movement, this watch ought to be a big seller.
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i just saw a few in person last week as well. did not hate them. some of the dial configs i actually quite like. i also dont mind a cyclops lens.
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By the way Dopey, thanks for the pics of the collection that you posted. I am always impressed by the diversity of your timepieces, very interesting! And some beautiful watches, I love the connies.
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The PO is a great looking watch, I'm sure you've found a very worthy replacement!

on a side note, I've always been intrigued by Vulcain watches, and this is their new offering. I think it's quite well done. Some probably think 42 mm is too big, but that's the sweet spot for a watch like IMO, and I've heard great things about their alarm function (image borrowed from tz)


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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

I've asked.  nod%5B1%5D.gif


Interestingly they rarely do such commission-based work anymore.  A ton of work and not enough scale for profitability; yes, they'll charge the client enough to cover the costs, but with limited resources they could have put their watchmakers to work on pieces that could be "mass produced" (to the extent that 53,000 watches a year, 25% of them quartz pieces, is "mass production"), sold potentially for higher margins and help build the brand versus being relegated to one person's private collection.  The kind of people for whom PP feels "compelled" to produce special pieces also tend to be savvy negotiators who rarely allow them to charge high margins. 

My father showed me a recent interview of Thierry Stern that was in one of his magazines . He was asked about custom pieces. IIRC, he said they do them on occasion, but the work they will do is limited. They might modify a current design, in terms of its dial or case. He was not clear as to whether they would modify an existing movement. However, he made it clear they will not go as far as creating a movement for a one off watch.

Aside from independents, VC is the only company I'm aware of that offers custom services such that they will create a complete one off watch and movement to suit a customer's wishes.
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Sorry double post.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

My father showed me a recent interview of Thierry Stern that was in one of his magazines . He was asked about custom pieces. IIRC, he said they do them on occasion, but the work they will do is limited. They might modify a current design, in terms of its dial or case. He was not clear as to whether they would modify an existing movement. However, he made it clear they will not go as far as creating a movement for a one off watch.

Aside from independents, VC is the only company I'm aware of that offers custom services such that they will create a complete one off watch and movement to suit a customer's wishes.

where there is a will unlimited funds, there is a way.
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ok, seems the ducks are lined up. now i just need to grab my balls and ready my hand to fork over the money. hint - blue dial.
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Blue dial eh? Now that has certainly piqued my interest... I am drawing a blank now!
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

 ducks are lined up. now i just need to grab my balls and ready my hand to fork over the money. hint - blue dial.
 

And then tell Mrs Stitches.  Which presumably is where "duck" comes in.

 

On the subject of Frilly's future minute repeater, of course there are many options just a little cheaper than the PP (and as a side note, I just saw one on eBay for $750k - plus $150 for shipping!!!).  I like the Breguet, there are many IWCs and of course lesser ones.  And the platinum JLC Master MR is a beaut, under $100k so within Frilly territory(!)  AP have one for half that.  

 

But, dear Frilly (I must start addressing him directly here), there is something else that came to mind: Frills, you mentioned ages ago that you don't have a Reverso and might join that club.  The Reverso minute repeater is pretty lovely and individual in my humble and uninformed opinion.  And available for thirty something grand at the drop of a hat.  A mere bagatelle for a man of your standing.  So it occurs to me that you might take a look at one and perhaps kill two birds with one stone: live with a minute repeater for a while and see if it really fascinates you, without selling either of your children, and join the Friends of Stitchy Reverso club in some style.  And if you don't like it, it's unusual enough for you to get your money back.

 

But surely anyone would like it.  I mean, it's a rose gold Reverso with guilloche dial, blued hands, and something unusual poking through the corner that makes you go "ooh".  I mean, 

look at it! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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