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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I get you - the 6.00 date seems to be a bit of a German thing; same on the Nomos.  But I just don't like simple dates in general - not particularly useful as they need resetting every few weeks, and they tend to unbalance a design quite frequently I think.  The 6.00 date deals with the second issue to a point, but it's not for me.  The discussion on ROs above reminded me of one of the reasons I like the RO chrono so much: it doesn't have the 3.00 date that the three hand models have, and shoves it down instead to 4.30 - a quirk I quite like, if there has to be a date at all.  

A date at 6 really annoys me.  My wife's automatic Cartier Tank Francaise has it there, as does my Pasha 950 Chronograph.  I might be a bit better on a time only watch, but I'm not really a fan of when it cuts into a subdial (which often happens with watches based on the 1185 F.Piguet which happens on some Breguets, Cartiers, and BPs).  Although AP and VC moved it to 4:30 and 12 respectively on their RO and Overseas Chronographs which use the 1185.  I like the date at 4/4:30, its less disturbing to the dials symmetry if done correctly. 

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That is absolutely absurd. Very beautiful watch though.

Hodinkee did an interesting article today:

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-on-the-wrist-the-iwc-portuguese-chronograph-classic

Here is a picture for reference:

 


What do y'all think? Personally, I think I prefer the design of the second one, cut-off numerals aside. I cannot help but notice the homogenization of watches owned by Richemont in this price range. Maybe it is just me, but I feel like some of the Richemont brands are taking their tried and true designs, and substantially modernizing them. Making them bigger, thicker, etc.

For example, this new Cartier that we talked about a few days ago.



Maybe it is just my eyes, but I see a trend towards making everything look more similar.

I also think the new price for the IWC Chrono is absurd. $13,000 is a dangerous price category to play with. A Daytona is less expensive, and I would prefer that.

+1 on the Daytona.

 

As for the homogenization of Richemont brand watches, the public speaks through sales and if the public is still clamoring for really big thick watches, companies will modify classic designs to increase sales.  Most companies have beefied up case sizes, if one considers Rolex super cases, Patek bumping Calatravas from what was once their large size at 34-35mm to 37mm+, Cartier increase the size of the manual wind Tanks, and AP increase the size of ROs.  No one wants to give up sales to the competition.  If the public tires of extra large thick watches, the companies will trim down case sizes again.

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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post


I really like that Cartier. smile.gif is this a new model?

Yes a new model its the Tank MC. 

post #22307 of 35960
This inspires me to ask two truly dumb questions.

1. Is it possible to make a mechanical perpetual calendar movement that features a date window?

2. Is it possible to make a mechanical chronograph where the center seconds chronograph hand also functions as the ordinary sweep hand?
post #22308 of 35960
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Originally Posted by cjmruns View Post

Stichy,
Good news! I found the 5270 and, since its free shipping, the price should be within budget. Can't believe I found such a deal! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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i hope they take paypal.
post #22309 of 35960
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

This inspires me to ask two truly dumb questions.

1. Is it possible to make a mechanical perpetual calendar movement that features a date window?

patek does this.
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2. Is it possible to make a mechanical chronograph where the center seconds chronograph hand also functions as the ordinary sweep hand?

not sure, but i dont see how hat would be advantageous. also you would have to interrupt the time keeping to activate the chrono and somehow not mess that up. i dont see this as being good, imo.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

patek does this.

 

Like this one?

 

 

Or, Hayward, did you literally mean the dates (1 to 28/29/30/31) in the apertures, and not just the month and/or day?

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and like the one i love. i think a lot of the gondolos have windows only perp cals.
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Like this one?




Or, Hayward, did you literally mean the dates (1 to 28/29/30/31) in the apertures, and not just the month and/or day?

Yes...
post #22313 of 35960
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

 

And oh, how they got me.

 

 

 

You are missing the "compensatory watches for the wife" element from your equation there!  She should be standing on your head (and I would imagine, has done at times!)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

 new Cartier that we talked about a few days ago.



 

 

I like this quite a lot.  Whatever the design influence, this looks both very Cartier, and very masculine, to me.  I approve of this direction.

 

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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

 I wish it maintained blued hands for the hours and minutes.
 

And also that it didn't have the 3:00 date.  Boo.

 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Would take daytona over port chrono.

Hell yes.

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

 I like the date at 4/4:30, its less disturbing to the dials symmetry if done correctly. 

 

companies will modify classic designs to increase sales.  

 

 

Like the RO chrono - the date is a pleasing quirk rather than a diversion from the symmetry.  And only available in the 41mm size...

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5513 today, but the pic has been posted before. Worth a repost, I think smile.gif

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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

5513 today, but the pic has been posted before. Worth a repost, I think smile.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Absolutely worth a repost.

 

 

Great looking watch.

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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

5513 today, but the pic has been posted before. Worth a repost, I think smile.gif
 

 

What a lovely piece. I have been eyeing a no-date Sub for some time and this really sings to me.  Somehow I have resisted.  But your pics aren't helping my resolve! :)

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post


Would take daytona over port chrono.

nofuckingshit. I dont think i could respect anyone that would choose the opposite. lol8[1].gif
post #22318 of 35960
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post

I actually just googled wrist photos of the 15400 and holy crap does it ever wear big for a 41mm watch. Does the 39mm wear big as well? I didn't even give the 15202 any consideration, because I've always considered anything under 40mm to be too small for me (which is a shame, because if Rolex offered the Explorer in a 40 or 42, it would be on my wrist right now).


that looks like its being worn by a penis. good god thats a tiny wrist. IMHO it doesnt wear large at all. Ive only tried one on though...but it didnt look like that on me. and i have pretty small wrists.

FWIW the 39mm explorer wears really well. I personally prefer the original 36mm though, but the 39 wears very well.
post #22319 of 35960
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

Like the RO chrono - the date is a pleasing quirk rather than a diversion from the symmetry.  And only available in the 41mm size...

Unless you go pre-owned.  The RO Chronograph (Non-Offshore model) was in production from around 1998/99 through 2011/12 in a 39 mm case with the date window at 4:30.

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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post


nofuckingshit. I dont think i could respect anyone that would choose the opposite. lol8[1].gif

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

 

+1 on the Daytona.

 

Daytona-related note.  My wife has decided that she likes my 116520 best of all.  And frankly, it looks super hot on her.  I am thinking of getting her another Daytona not right now, but sometime in the future, perhaps next year or when we celebrate our 15th wedding anniversary a few years from now (italics on the disclaimer from me - let's see if I can hold myself to this personal pledge).  Want something in precious metal but also want to consider the fact that the wife murders her daily wearers.

 

So am thinking of the 116515 with an ivory dial:

 

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Pluses (for me):

 

1.  Rose gold - quite like it.  But not all-rose-gold on a bracelet, which is very charming on Elle MacPherson and Brooklyn Decker but I've seen my wife shy away from wearing all-gold pieces.  So the leather strap works for this case.

 

2.  Bezel is less prone to scratching given ceramic construction.

 

3.  On a deploy, which the wife loves.

 

Minuses:

 

1.  Leather strap can't exactly be taken swimming or in the shower - but that's OK, she will have the 116520 for that.

 

2.  At $28,800 retail and around $22 to $23K pre-owned there are many other pieces I can get for her.  But she is really smitten with the Daytona's look/presence on her wrist.

 

Anyway, would appreciate the watch-style-mavens thoughts on the matter.

 

P.S.  Also open to the darker dial.

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