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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Interesting piece here, announced recently via TZ.
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Patek split seconds chronograph.  One of a kind.  In TITANIUM.  With a distinctly sporty (sportier) look than I've ever seen in the more traditional 5004s (even the limited 5004A's in steel with baton markers didn't look like this).





This limited (to ONE) piece will probably fetch a price that's a multiple of current secondary market prices for the 5004, even if 5004s trade anywhere from the mid-$200s to the low-$300s.

Pricing and stuff aside, what do you guys think of this piece?

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6511572&rid=0#msg_6511572

le sigh. they took a perfectly wonderful watch, and destroyed it. i dont think that is like any other PP i have seen, and not in a good way. way too contemporary sporty.

swap the strap with a nice black or brown croc, give it a classy dial and boom, you have a great watch. oh well. someone will like it, and since there is only one, thats all they need.
post #21062 of 39306
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post


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Agreed 100%. Another thing I don't get about the APROO line is how the same model will cost much more in disaster-waiting-to-happen ceramic and about double in forged carbon glorified plastic. Evidently, there's a market for $30K G-Shocks-without-the-shock-resistance (carbon diver), but I struggle to understand how that's possible. Carbon fiber is great for its intended applications, but watches ain't among them.

 

The best part is that carbon production is so inherently cheap once the mold is paid for that I think we'll be seeing it as a low-cost replacement for steel and aluminum before too long. I would not be surprised if even crappy department-store mountain bikes started using it for cost reasons within ten years. In the bike world, handbuilt steel and titanium are back big-time in desirability as mass-produced carbon keeps coming down in price. It's not exactly exotic stuff any more.

Don't even get me started on Carbon Fiber!  Go onto a car configuration site and look at what the carbon fiber interior trim bits do to say the cost of a Porsche, BMW, etc.  Really, people are paying how much for the privilege of putting plastic into the cars interior.  What the hell is that about?  The people at Porsche and BMW must be laughing all the way to the bank!  People complain about cheap plastic interiors in Kias, Hyundais, Fords, etc...but high end car companies charge the hell out of customers and their customers are ponying up big money to buy fancy plastic.  

 

 

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I saw a rose gold ROO a few weeks ago in the local AD.  With the unusual combination of a tourbillon and a rubber strap.  They were selling it for over $200k,  And someone will buy it.  My business partner tried it on; me too because, you know, I could.  It was the most charmless expression of $200k I could imagine.

 

The funny thing is, if you imagined a rose gold tourbillon watch with a sporty twist from a big three maker, all sorts of wonders are possible.  The kind of things that even Frilly could lose sleep over.  And what they came up with was...that.

Yes, quite sad that some ROOs are well, less than tasteful.  Sadly GP has done similar things with their once sleek and sophisticated Laureato line of watches.  They ballooned up in size and then added lots of high end complications.  Sadly, ROOs and modern Laureatos remind me of caricatures of the original watches they were derived from.

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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post

Is that a bottle opener for beers and a button to keep count of how many you had?  If so, bravo...that would have helped in college.

fistbump.gif  Spot on!

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Originally Posted by gambit50 View Post

More generally, I do question whether people take into account the wearer's own size(wrist, body) to determine where the line to grossly large watch for its own sake has been crossed.
Akin to those in the styling of suits. Some people should not wear certain styles even if, ideally, that style looks best in a vacuum or on a model.
And depending on your own proportions, etc. you just cannot(alright, should not) employ specific features for they accentuate your faults rather than dulling. blurring or distracting from them to create the best possible image one might attain from a more proper suit.

Check some earlier posts from the last few months.  The size of watches, relative to the wearer and fashion, has been talked about to death.  It's a can of worms I don't want to revisit. 

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Re: carbon fiber...I would quickly get lost in either the biking or automotive worlds. Belligero and Dino both make good sense though, as far as appropriate use of materials.

However, I do have one timepiece that I wear on a black carbon fiber strap.

I actually bought it for one of my Omegas, but then I put it on this 1969, and it's just kind of stuck...




Opinions here?

Does this work?

It's a great watch, beautifully finished, really great colors on the dial, some might say "historical" movement (obviously)....it's a re-issue.

Zenith released it on a black croc (or maybe it was just croc-grain calf?) but for whatever reason, I didn't care much for it.

Perhaps it's because I've already got a couple of watches on black croc and/or lizard, and wanted something at least slightly different. (Granted, it's still black).

Any suggestions that might improve upon this combo?

I've got quite a few other straps in my possession (like most watch nerds) and nothing else has really "clicked" so far.

20mm--so it's a very common size.
Edited by Keith T - 5/18/13 at 10:31pm
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i like it. smile.gif
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Keith, honestly, I don't.

 

It's not that the watch isn't suited conceptually - it's a colourful, sport chrono after all.  But I just don't think the combination is inherently beautiful.  Maybe it's because so many cheap sporty watches have "carbon fibre effect" this and that, that it makes the already bold styling and colouring look reminiscent of those.  Or maybe if the watch were some super-minimalist two hand exocita with a matte black case and a hidden complication, it would be part of the feel.

 

Instead, I would love to see this watch on a non-tapered, chunky strap made of thick grain leather, even suede, or cordovan. Maybe even a NATO for that rugged out-doorsy look.  Rather than adding to the black and white thing, I'd contrast it with something chunky and mid brown, and with some kind of organic texture.  It might not sound obvious, but I think it would sing. More casual in a way, but I think somehow more classy too.  If you have anything similar, please try and post a comparison pic!

 

(NS - that is fabulous! Was the custom display back your addition?  Good call if it was; that movement is worth seeing!)

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I've seen that watch on a distressed black leather (with tiny bits of underlying brown showing through) to great effect.

I don't see the point of "carbon fibre effect" watch strap made of leather. To me it's conceptually the same as a "leather effect" watch strap made of plastic... Oh, so you can't actually make a watch strap out of carbon fibre? Then what's the point of mimicking a carbon fibre look anyway?

It's just more (bad) gravy that a leather watch strap had its natural grain polished off first, was then treated heavily, and finally embossed with the carbon fibre effect... sorry, but the whole idea just seems naff to me.

It's a simulacrum of something that isn't needed and cannot possibly be there, which makes it spurious on multiple levels to me.
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Stop beating about the bush, apropos...get off the fence and say what you really think, will you? :)

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

(NS - that is fabulous! Was the custom display back your addition?  Good call if it was; that movement is worth seeing!)

Thanks! I found a spare 11630 case with the custom display back on eBay a few years ago, so I can't claim the idea for my own. But I agreee, the movement is indeed worth seeing. And always a nice conversation starter to explain the first auto chronos and the microrotor and everything. I hava a Siffert (white/blue) Autavia as well, but the silver dialled is almost as rare.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Don't even get me started on Carbon Fiber!  Go onto a car configuration site and look at what the carbon fiber interior trim bits do to say the cost of a Porsche, BMW, etc.  Really, people are paying how much for the privilege of putting plastic into the cars interior.  What the hell is that about?  The people at Porsche and BMW must be laughing all the way to the bank!  People complain about cheap plastic interiors in Kias, Hyundais, Fords, etc...but high end car companies charge the hell out of customers and their customers are ponying up big money to buy fancy plastic.  


Yes, quite sad that some ROOs are well, less than tasteful.  Sadly GP has done similar things with their once sleek and sophisticated Laureato line of watches.  They ballooned up in size and then added lots of high end complications.  Sadly, ROOs and modern Laureatos remind me of caricatures of the original watches they were derived from.
fistbump.gif   Spot on!
Check some earlier posts from the last few months.  The size of watches, relative to the wearer and fashion, has been talked about to death.  It's a can of worms I don't want to revisit. 

Dino, I do apologize for not reading the earlier posts.In general, I find this watch thread full of rational, sensible blokes. But to see NFrills's taste in women is distressing for someone with the means to acquire what is able to.
I do not mean to cause you agita and angst with the size/wearer size discussion.I can just never get over some of the fits and discussions of even the highest of SF royalty and their Sunday best that are nothing so fantastic. Not all but more than zero(which is too many) and even more than a few.



Opinions here?

Does this work?

It's a great watch, beautifully finished, really great colors on the dial, some might say "historical" movement (obviously)....it's a re-issue.

Zenith released it on a black croc (or maybe it was just croc-grain calf?) but for whatever reason, I didn't care much for it.

Perhaps it's because I've already got a couple of watches on black croc and/or lizard, and wanted something at least slightly different. (Granted, it's still black).

Any suggestions that might improve upon this combo?

I've got quite a few other straps in my possession (like most watch nerds) and nothing else has really "clicked" so far.

20mm--so it's a very common size.[/quote]

I can dig it. An improvement would be to delete that reflection from below that comes off as yellow. For a hot second, I thought that was part of the show which would be frown.gif.
post #21070 of 39306
Keith T, found the images I referred to (strap suggestions for your A386 reissue) after a bit of rummage in the ol' C drive.



Other ideas which come to mind include:

- a mesh bracelet if you want to go for a full 80s look, like this - http://www.singularstraps.se/shop/mesh-lank/
- charcoal vintage leather - http://www.thetimetraveler.co/accessories/straps/62/vint-3/vintage-leather-handcrafted-strap-charcoal-leather-ss/
- brown textured leather - http://www.thetimetraveler.co/accessories/straps/58/vint-2/vintage-leather-handcrafted-strap-chocolate-brown-ss-w-textured-stripe/
Edited by apropos - 5/19/13 at 8:36am
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Thanks all for the feedback.



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Dino, I do apologize for not reading the earlier posts.In general, I find this watch thread full of rational, sensible blokes. But to see NFrills's taste in women is distressing for someone with the means to acquire what is able to.
I do not mean to cause you agita and angst with the size/wearer size discussion.I can just never get over some of the fits and discussions of even the highest of SF royalty and their Sunday best that are nothing so fantastic. Not all but more than zero(which is too many) and even more than a few.

Gambit50: not that frilly's taste in women necessarily needs defending, but just to be clear-- the Kate Upton reference goes back however many pages ago-- when a couple of her pics had popped up in the thread. Long story. But thanks for contributing here. And yeah, obviously the yellow reflection on the Zenith is coming from my neckwear choice from that particular day....agreed, that would be frown.gif



Stitch: glad you like the carbon fiber look. I had a thought overnight that perhaps this same type of strap in navy blue might be better, maybe with white contrast stitching? I believe Hirsch makes one, and it would be a little bit thicker strap than what's on the watch right now.


apropos: you may really be on to something with that "sueded" look. The pics that you found are quite tasty. Thanks for looking them up. Your other recommendations are also appreciated. I do have a mesh that I could try, but mine is of the brushed variety, (also purchased for an Omega IIRC) and I think the seller called it a shark mesh, if you know what I mean....designed for divers.


mimo: probably the point you raised is at the heart of the issue.....I have essentially been wearing this as a dress chrono, assuming there is such a distinction-- but you're correct in that this watch is a colorful, sporty one. I can tell you that I have tried it on a few brown straps, albeit "dressier" types.....but again, none of them seemed quite right. Moar chunkiness may be the solution.


If I get some time this evening, I will try and snap a couple of more pics showing different looks as fodder for debate.
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Why do I have to send my Omega Aqua Terra back to Omega to purchase a leather band?
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the carbon fiber really does not bother me on the strap. CF makes me think of car racing for some reason and that watch has a racing look to me. i think its a good match. the fact that it is leather embossed with the CF look does not bother me in the least. as in, i think its a non issue. its just for aesthetics here, and i think the aesthetics work well.

keith, would have to see the blue strap on the watch, but i think the black is where its at here. maybe if there were blue on the dial to pick up the blue strap i would feel differently.
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One of the subdials is blue. That could pick up the blue from a nice navy blue strap I think
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