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post #20926 of 35696
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Did the dial look any cleaner in person. I think the Skydweller movement is incredible and the watch has so much potential, but it just looks a mess with so much junk crowding the dial.

my thoughts EXACTLY. That movement is fantastic.
post #20927 of 35696
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

 Not bad for a 23 year old watch, huh?  

 

 

 

Looks amazing for 23 years old !  What a beauty!

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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

my thoughts EXACTLY. That movement is fantastic.

3rd'ed
post #20929 of 35696
The Precista comes close, but it's no longer made and you can't find it anywhere. I dunno, maybe I should just go digital.
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So I've been away for awhile (business travel) and apparently I've missed all the fun.

Don't you guys ever take another Kate Upton tangent without me.
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Jeezus, I mean stitchy even got a new fancy avatar.
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Jeezus, I mean stitchy even got a new fancy avatar.

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also, i promise all kate upton discussions and pics will make there way to your attention.
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glad ur back tho!
post #20933 of 35696
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

So I've been away for awhile (business travel) and apparently I've missed all the fun.

Don't you guys ever take another Kate Upton tangent without me.

 

This will be one of my moral obligations.

 

Check out the winning bids from the Christie's auction yesterday, preview article here from Hodinkee:

 

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/that-time-a-rolex-explorer-sold-for-182000

 

There are some very high bids here.  Case in point, a Patek 5970 in platinum - perpetual calendar chronograph - cleared for $220,060:

 

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/watches/patek-philippe-a-fine-large-and-rare-5674779-details.aspx?from=salesummary&intObjectID=5674779&sid=20cbb0fb-a8fe-4403-8a13-75e55df382fa

 

There's a bunch of 5970P's being offered for anywhere from $40,000 to $50,000 less right now. I mean - I understand if you have cash to burn on watches. You might even burn a ton of cash on super duper one-of-a-kind rare pieces (3448 that's possibly one of a kind?  Patek 3700 Nautilus in platinum?).

 

But do you really want to burn an extra $40,000 to $60,000 if you can get exactly the same piece?  I mean, seriously.  A dealer offered me a Patek sealed BNIB 5970P just yesterday for significantly less than $220,060.  

 

Crazy stuff.

post #20934 of 35696
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Yes, that was a white gold Sub.  Its a pretty cool watch if one wants a stealthy gold watch...rather than the bling of YG.  Although, in the used market, I think the YG holds its value better (maybe because its easily recognized as gold).  An acquaintance bought a WG Sub brand new when it first came out, and about 2 years later when he wanted to sell it to buy something else he had a hell of a time finding a buyer.  It took him over a year to find a buyer and IIRC he sold the watch for a lot less than he hoped.   

Man I just love that blue, and I've only ever seen Rolex do the blue sub with WG. What you said makes sense though, I can see trying to recoup retail on that watch requiring an awful lot of patience. The stealthiness is cool too, ha.
post #20935 of 35696
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

 

Crazy stuff.

 

I guess it depends who's in the room more than anything.

 

A few months ago, I wandered into the John Lobb shop in Dubai Mall (as one does).  I was surprised at how high the prices were, and said so.  I asked the salesman - a central Asian-looking fellow - how they managed to sell any shoes.  After all, the rent will be a killer, and I could find any of their shoes online for half the price once I'd tried them on.  He replied that sometimes a few weeks would pass without a single pair being sold.  "Then one Russian man will come...and buy everything."

 

I think we might overestimate how much the world compares prices online.  Russians in particular don't use the net much for commerce; they somehow don't trust it.  The cost and irregularity of delivery can also be an issue, I'm told.  But also, ask yourself how many leading watch sites are available in Mandarin, Russian, Arabic?  Some people just don't do what we would do, and certainly dont do it in English.  And some people like auctions, and can just bid until they win!

post #20936 of 35696
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I guess it depends who's in the room more than anything.

A few months ago, I wandered into the John Lobb shop in Dubai Mall (as one does).  I was surprised at how high the prices were, and said so.  I asked the salesman - a central Asian-looking fellow - how they managed to sell any shoes.  After all, the rent will be a killer, and I could find any of their shoes online for half the price once I'd tried them on.  He replied that sometimes a few weeks would pass without a single pair being sold.  "Then one Russian man will come...and buy everything."

I think we might overestimate how much the world compares prices online.  Russians in particular don't use the net much for commerce; they somehow don't trust it.  The cost and irregularity of delivery can also be an issue, I'm told.  But also, ask yourself how many leading watch sites are available in Mandarin, Russian, Arabic?  Some people just don't do what we would do, and certainly dont do it in English.  And some people like auctions, and can just bid until they win!

Interesting perspective, and probably right.

Funny - reminds me of my reaction when I went into the Lattanzi boutique on Madison. You can't buy much Lattanzi on line, it just blew me away that there's a viable market for shoes that cost more than cars... and I buy some luxury stuff.... I guess it's all relative. First clue should have been that you have to ring a doorbell to enter a shoe store.
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The Panerai PAM210 is incredible. I'm glad I stumbled upon this forum, nothing adds that finishing touch than a classic watch 

post #20938 of 35696
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

I guess it depends who's in the room more than anything.

 

A few months ago, I wandered into the John Lobb shop in Dubai Mall (as one does).  I was surprised at how high the prices were, and said so.  I asked the salesman - a central Asian-looking fellow - how they managed to sell any shoes.  After all, the rent will be a killer, and I could find any of their shoes online for half the price once I'd tried them on.  He replied that sometimes a few weeks would pass without a single pair being sold.  "Then one Russian man will come...and buy everything."

 

I think we might overestimate how much the world compares prices online.  Russians in particular don't use the net much for commerce; they somehow don't trust it.  The cost and irregularity of delivery can also be an issue, I'm told.  But also, ask yourself how many leading watch sites are available in Mandarin, Russian, Arabic?  Some people just don't do what we would do, and certainly dont do it in English.  And some people like auctions, and can just bid until they win!

 

^ Yes, it probably does depend on who's in the room. Of course, already conspiracy theories are flying around about how "certain watchmakers might have been there" to "bid up prices."  Who knows, really.

 

Well, in any case, the tail wags the dog so now the marginal pricing for vintage white dial Rolex Explorer pieces may or may not be influenced by the fact that one of them cleared for $182,000 at the Christie's auction. OK then!  mimo, imma gonna give you a deal. Since we're SF friends - nay, TWAT buddies - imma gonna let my Explorer I 114270 go for $50,000.  Oh wait, it has a black dial and is a 2004 manufacture.  OK, I'll give you another discount: $25,000, man!  What a steal!

post #20939 of 35696
Wait, I'm part Russian, I love auctions, and I'm not aware that I can find used watches on that thing you guys call the interwebz - I bid 100,000 on the black dial 2004 explorer!
post #20940 of 35696
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

Wait, I'm part Russian, I love auctions, and I'm not aware that I can find used watches on that thing you guys call the interwebz - I bid 100,000 on the black dial 2004 explorer!

 

Ha - fair enough! Impressive bid... let's wait to see if mimo will top it! nod[1].gif

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