The Watch Appreciation Thread - Page 1380
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Very nice, I like this very very much - congratulations!
Thanks KN - I don't know much about it yet, but have seen them go for, what seem, reasonable sum in the vintage market.
Many thanks Dino - sadly, can't argue much with any of the solid points you are making here. Very helpful. I am assuming this version would be (slightly) more appealing to you:
I will admit I know next to nothing about this line of Zenith watches, but that actually looks like a fake. Something about it screams... fake.
Agreed. Not sure if anyone here noticed their new moonphase - a steal at ~$3,500!! No, that is not a typo!!
Now, for the caveat. First, FC's PR department really needs to step its game up. Either you are a mall watch, or you are a manufacture. I think they are trying to straddle both markets, and that really causes their image to suffer. It would be like if Nomos suddenly started selling open heart Quartz watches at your local Kay. It just does not look good.
Second, FC's offerings truly lack an identity. Further, they tend to "borrow" their identity from other, more established manufactures.
For example, the moonphase above looks slightly reminiscent of this GP:
I wish that FC worked a little bit on developing themselves and their own identity.
With all that said, in their price range, you really cannot get much better for your money.
I do understand this sentiment. We've written before about not wanting to compromise for anything, given the stratospheric price points of some timepieces. I do think part of the nature of whether you think something represents a "compromise" or not is certainly personal and subjective (which you always allowed for).
For example, the 3970 has been criticized for not quite having an ideal "size to height" ratio. That it looks "too fat" because its case size is 36mm but it is relatively "tall" at 12.9mm (chronograph movements usually add a bit of thickness). It has even been called a "hamburger watch." Yuck, who would want to own something like that?
Here is a picture of the "hamburger watch" - at an angle to hopefully show its relative thickness versus its "small" case size.
For me, however, I think it's absolutely perfect. It's one man's "fat" versus this man's "perfection." I will happily stay "married" to this piece until it's time to give it to my daughters.
To continue the supermodel analogy, this young lady was "roundly" (sorry for the pun) criticized when these pictures came out:
"OMG - she's fat," others crowed. "No way she should be modeling on a catwalk!" - others said.
Sports Illustrated and thousands of other men - including myself - disagreed. Twice on the cover of SI Swimsuit Edition!
Again, if her "look" ain't your cup of tea, that's all good. From my perspective, she looks mighty fine.
To use a watch analogy, I'm quite impressed by the lovely balance of the subdials and lugs, and the finishing looks first rate.
Stick with watches, mate.
Many a hole in many an argument.
But with your obvious means, you have quite the assortment of fine timepieces.
Your 'hamburger' watch might even do it for me. Not familiar with it in person and the measurements are possible but maybe not quite right on my wrist.
I cannot say for sure without it on my flesh. Sorry, that attempt at a pseudo pun sounds off.
I find size issues also depend on size of wearer.
I really like mine - and it's one that's not very derivative of an existing watch that I know of. Their sister brand Alpina has a longer history and is better known globally, but not so much in the states.
It's true, their marketing strategy is a bit muddled and is holding them back. As a manufacture, I think their watches are a much better value than, say, most of the Longines that are based on ETA movements. But they should clean up the lower end stuff and try to limit their channels a little - although I don't see an issue with Amazon or Overstock, who also carry Longines, Breitling, B&R, TAG, Tissot, Oris, Hamilton, etc.
I love it! Even though lends heavily from smiliar watches from other brands. The execution looks very good. But 42mm? A tad bit too large for a dressy watch, no?
Teehee! I see what you did there.
But wait - really now, aesthetically speaking, see how "7" is followed by what looks like a "6" in the moonphase as you go clockwise? That choice to flip the numerals at "9" actually does turn a bunch of folks off. Others would have said "keep the 9 in line with 7 and do the flip at 11, which is "palindrome-ic" anyway.
Doesn't bother me though. Or maybe I should take another closer look...
yikes let's do anything EXCEPT talk about Nazis ok?
so question... I'm looking for a new dress watch that will usually be worn with natural/neutral tones and leathers... about a $2K budget and I'm wide open to suggestions. Round face, 40mm max, auto preferred, simple and classic aesthetics, Roman numerals a possibility, no yellow gold...
Agreed with the Nomos recommendations. That would be my first choice for a currently-manufactured watch around that price, too. Many modern "dressy" ones of comparable cost screw it up by adding a badly-drawn date window (often floating in the middle of an oversized dial) or messing up other elements. Nomos' attention to detail is very impressive; they're fluent in the language of design in ways that many of their competitors wouldn't even understand.
Another one to consider around the $2K mark would be an older 34 or 36 mm Rolex, like an Oyster Precision, Air-King, Date or Datejust model. While they're not strictly dress watches, they can look great on a strap, are certainly dressy enough for most situations, and offer quality, reliability and serviceability that can't be beat for the price. They have the same no-compromise movements that went into the sports range, as well.
There's heaps to be had out there in vintage-land, too. This sunburst-dial Enicar, bought from a former watchmaker in a Budapest street market, occasionally gets worn on the pictured strap for dress-watch duties — at least when it's not on someone else's wrist as a gateway drug into watch addiction. There are heaps of high-quality older watches out there from formerly great manufacturers that can be had very reasonably, and were skillfully made to standards that today aren't seen in new stuff anywhere near their price.
Yes indeed. There's so much out there, and a decent SS 36mm Datejust is definitely dressy enough in my book, even on a bracelet. It's simple, modestly sized but solid and manly.