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post #20656 of 31014
You can't go wrong with Nomos either. Honestly the short term upgrade would make me lean to the less expensive watch, and then keep it as more of a "beater" for travel or what have you. But only you can really make that decision.
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First off, just an aside--the speedy's dial is black, kind of a dark grey though in certain lights.

Being in Japan certainly complicates matters. I have bought and sold plenty of watches through Timezone. What watch do you have right now? Do you have any?

And I completely understand not having the money to spend. And there is nothing wrong with buying a watch to tide you over. I think it might be a good idea though to buy two watches that fit different spots in your collection. For example, if you buy the B&M, and then the Speedy, you have two sporty but sorta dressy chronographs. It might be better to buy a three hander with date, or something of that ilk, and then the Speed while you can. Just my 2c.

Also, in re the applied moonphases--I think what is most important is having a moonphase that has some depth to it. The Patek certainly has 'depth,' as does the Lange. My MUT Moon's moonphase is a bit flat, but I do love it all the same smile.gif. Still, I prefer Lange's or Patek's, but then, that certainly goes with the territory!

For the sake of comparison...

AppleMark

I don´t have any good watch. Bought some swatch watch with a dial I like, but it´s super cheap and the case is plastic. Basically bought it just to have something to wear. Now, I´ve come to like wearing watches, and would like something I can wear with confidence. I am also a huge fan of white dials with leather straps. The A. Lange & Söhne one posted here was just amazing, unfortunately far off my price range.


Thanks for the good advice. I´ll decide upon getting the condition confirmed.

post #20658 of 31014
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I am not sure how one would characterize this detailing (see close up pic below).  Applied or non applied? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Also, in re the applied moonphases--I think what is most important is having a moonphase that has some depth to it. The Patek certainly has 'depth,' as does the Lange. My MUT Moon's moonphase is a bit flat, but I do love it all the same smile.gif. Still, I prefer Lange's or Patek's, but then, that certainly goes with the territory!
For the sake of comparison... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AppleMark

in general i am not much of nit picker when it comes to watches, but i really wish these both had a dot between the 31 and the 1. sorry to be a debbie downer. i love both the watches, that just struck me in the close ups.
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Baumer & Mercier,
Considering buying this used for around 1200$. Think it looks great, currently waiting for confirmation on the condition.
It seems to have this model number: MV045216
Does anyone have any good information on the movement, or any tips? Says it´s automatic.
Would be my first "better" watch, and kind of between this and some Oris watch. Want to buy the Omega Speedmaster Professional in the future, but currently it´s a bit too expensive. I have read many different opinions of the Baumer & Mercier watches, but personally I think this would look amazing with a brown leather (possibly matt crocodile) strap. Open to other suggestions!

i have this in the blue faced non chrono version and i love it. if you like the chrono above, i highly recommend it. and the price seems very fair.

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Oh stop it, the pair of you.
Now everybody, breeeeeaaaaaathe..... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


i would marry this watch.
post #20659 of 31014
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in general i am not much of nit picker when it comes to watches, but i really wish these both had a dot between the 31 and the 1. sorry to be a debbie downer. i love both the watches, that just struck me in the close ups.

i would marry this watch.

 

WHAT?  Are you sure about that, stitchy?  You wouldn't go CRAZY like the guy in this picture once you realize that THERE IS NO DOT BETWEEN THE 31 AND THE 1???????

 

 

 

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WHAT?  Are you sure about that, stitchy?  You wouldn't go CRAZY like the guy in this picture once you realize that THERE IS NO DOT BETWEEN THE 31 AND THE 1??????? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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lol, indeed that is an issue, maybe because it is in a different color font, it did not jump out at me. also, like i said, its a nit pick that i would likely never had thought of had i not been looking at a macro pic.
post #20661 of 31014
Monocle visits Baseworld:

http://monocle.com/film/business/baselworld-watch-fair-2013/

I have to say that the only one they showed that appeals to me is the new Zenith El Primero.
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lol, indeed that is an issue, maybe because it is in a different color font, it did not jump out at me. also, like i said, its a nit pick that i would likely never had thought of had i not been looking at a macro pic.

 

Eh, as with most marriages I suspect you can learn to live with such a minor quirk. Especially if you did end up with this rather dazzlingly beautiful spouse.

 

Was it DerekS or someone else who wrote a few pages back that it's basically like quibbling over Cindy Crawford's mole or something...

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Perhaps a dumb question (pardon my ignorance), but my first watch out of college was a Speedmaster reduced. Besides the obvious size difference, is there a big difference between the Speedmaster reduced and the Speedmaster? I found the reduced was okay, but the crystal got scratched easily and it lost it's appeal pretty quickly (for me).

post #20664 of 31014
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Eh, as with most marriages I suspect you can learn to live with such a minor quirk. Especially if you did end up with this rather dazzlingly beautiful spouse.

Was it DerekS or someone else who wrote a few pages back that it's basically like quibbling over Cindy Crawford's mole or something...

dont know who said it, but i heartily agree. smile.gif
post #20665 of 31014
reduced = automatic movement
Speedaster = manual, more authentic to the one that went up in space
post #20666 of 31014
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Perhaps a dumb question (pardon my ignorance), but my first watch out of college was a Speedmaster reduced. Besides the obvious size difference, is there a big difference between the Speedmaster reduced and the Speedmaster? I found the reduced was okay, but the crystal got scratched easily and it lost it's appeal pretty quickly (for me).

Aside from the fact that one holds an arguably legendary movement and the other an arguably pedestrian one? wink.gif

I keed, I keed, they both fulfill what they were designed for. The Speedy needs no introduction, the reduced offers most of the Speedy looks in a smaller package that fits smaller wrists well and eliminates the need for manual winding, which I know some people find ++++ annoying.

Well, the bracelet is slightly different in its proportion of brushed/non-brushed parts. The reduced does not have a see through caseback, which many non-reduced Speedys have. The dials are different in their layout - partly because of the diameter change - with the most obvious difference being that the hour baton markers are not cut off on the non-reduced.

The crystal will get scratched just as easily on the non-reduced Speedy as the reduced, unless of course you are getting the sapphire glass version.
post #20667 of 31014
I heard somewhere that the Speedmaster reduced is Omega's best-selling watch. Has anyone else heard this?
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It certainly looked flat versus the raised goodness you can readily observe from the Lange 1 moonphase, but I was thrown off by what seems to be these raised/etched borders around the stars.

 

 

Here is the "official" description from Patek:

 

"A disc, decorated with golden stars and two golden moons against a blue background representing the sky, rotates within an aperture. The disc is cut from a wafer of corundum crystal (sapphire).

Gold was condensed onto the disc by means of a vacuum process through a photographic mask to create the shape of the moons and stars."

 

I do like how the dimensions of Lange's moon and stars look like they are jumping from the disc.  It's lovely.

 

However, why not extend the whole "moon likeness" and all with THIS:

 

 

 

No stars though. Figure that might be tough to really get a likeness of that one, although I'd sure like to see some watchmakers try:

 

 

Hi Frills, I also noticed the borders around the stars and I think its a really cool effect.  I like that its really dark around the stars!  Its still a beautiful moon phase display.  Its simply different from what Lange has done.  Each brand has a lot to offer its customers and each follows a different path.

 

The textured moon is something I sometimes like and sometimes don't like.  In addition, most times it doesn't have star (and I like the stars) because the process of super heating gold would make the stars textured too, and I don't know that it would be that attractive.  Piaget did a textured moon in 2009 to celebrate man landing on the moon, and their's had an imprint of Buzz Aldrin's boot print on the moon.

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It looks nice, but if I were you, I would hold out for the Speedy Pro. This B&M is likely equipped with a Valjoux 7750, judging by the 6, 9, 12 subdial configuration and date. It could also be the ETA equivalent. Sturdy, robust movements. Aesthetically it is not my favorite thing out there, but that is a choice only you can make!

With discount, a Speedy Pro will run you ~$3,300. If you go used, you can easily get it under $3,000. Personally, I think it is better to hold out for what you really want. Otherwise you just will not be completely satisfied. My recommendation is exacerbated by the fact that this watch and the Speedy will play similar 'roles.' When you acquire a Speedy, what role do you foresee this watch playing?

 

+1.
 
Save up and buy what you really want.  Everyone is different, maybe the B&M will satisfy your desire to have a watch now.  However, if your like me, it won't satisfy your desire to get the watch you truly want.  I would rather save up for the watch I truly want.  Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post
Continuing the Moon phase talk, I'm currently searching for one of these (Zenith El Primero from 83-85) for some reason I love that the moon has a face.

Cool watch, but I've never really been a fan of moon phase displays with smiley faces.  

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Dino doesn't like that I love that watch haha. I actually brought it up again in my rationale to Newcomer for not loving the Lange 1 Moonphase.

nest.gif     I think we had our fun with that topic previously, so I won't go there.  wink.gif

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Sounds like a watch I am presently contemplating - except it's manual wind, not automatic:

 

Classic, wishing you luck with your decision Roger.

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Just came across the Zenith Class Elite Moonphase - any thoughts on this watch (not my pic)?

Sorry, I don't care for it, and I am someone that really loves asymmetric dials and watch cases.  This looks like a jumbled mess to me.  There is simply too much happening, we have a mix of arrow heads & Arabic markers, 3 styles of guilloche, a big honking plaque for Elite Automatic (sorry doesn't need it, one for the brand is all I can stand), the hands look "Too heavy" for this dial or for something that is supposed to I guess be dressy.  In addition, everything is so close to the center of the watch that it looks like it was probably a movement from a smaller watch that they dumped into a bigger case.  I'd search for something else, as they do make some really nice watches.

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Eh, as with most marriages I suspect you can learn to live with such a minor quirk. Especially if you did end up with this rather dazzlingly beautiful spouse.

 

Was it DerekS or someone else who wrote a few pages back that it's basically like quibbling over Cindy Crawford's mole or something...

It wasn't me previously, but that mole always annoyed the hell of of me.  She's hot and all, but as she gets older I can imagine some big black hairs popping out of it...yuck!

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It wasn't me previously, but that mole always annoyed the hell of of me.  She's hot and all, but as she gets older I can imagine some big black hairs popping out of it...yuck!

 

I suspect this sums up everything about you here - how utterly impossible you are, and why we yet revere you for your excruciating attention to detail. lol8[1].gif

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