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Also, the screen shot above is only for the men's models. There are a bunch of new women's models out too (variations of existing pieces, more or less).
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That bicolor GMT likely WILL be my first Rolex purchase. Not sure when, but I am fairly smitten. I wonder if it will be a good seller for Rolex though.

And pricing? I would say $8,000 to $9,000. I can't see it being much more than the current iteration. Then again, I have been known to be wrong about many things.

Well the current msrp for the GMT is $8,450. Rolex WILL also have another price increase pretty soon. So If I have take a good guess.... $9,100+, maybe $500-800 for bi-color bezel.

The new stuff from Basel usually arrive in most AD around Aug-Sept.

I'm probably gonna trade my current GMT for the new one. The crazy thing, I was thinking long hard about the new YM (not the II), I really dig the new blue dial.
Edited by Warren G. - 4/24/13 at 11:44am
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frills - which ones do you have your eye on?

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^ baller! That's you on the right, correct? lol8[1].gif

noap! im in the middle.
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a toy boat that floats in your bathtub isnt a yacht.

wrong.
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To throw another gig on the YM2, the Racing Rules of Sailing calls for 5 minute sequences. Watches make bad timers too, I typically use an app on my phone as a start timer so I can see it without moving my arms. My favorite timer I've seen is this old Heuer hand cranker a friend owns. Not my picture but its the same piece.

 

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Oyoyoy. Check out the 5227 in rose gold, pictures of front and back and technical specs below (contending with the strange formatting of pics/posts again)!
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5227_front 5227_back
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This is what I got from TRF :

GMT Master II 116710BLNR € 7.350 from July
YMII 116680 € 15.400 from July
Daytona platinum 116506 € 61.550 from September

WOW... almost 80 stacks for a fricking Daytona?
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WOW... almost 80 stacks for a fricking Daytona?

wait....are you fucking serious?! thats laughable. 80 grand for any current production rolex is ridiculous IMHO.
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That is so insane...

A platinum Daytona cost a little bit more than an ALS platinum Datograph.
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Originally Posted by Warren G. View Post

This is what I got from TRF :

GMT Master II 116710BLNR € 7.350 from July
YMII 116680 € 15.400 from July
Daytona platinum 116506 € 61.550 from September

WOW... almost 80 stacks for a fricking Daytona?

For that money, I am pretty sure I will take a damn Paul Newman Daytona. Or a number of other more awesome watches. Hmmm, maybe a Vingt-8 for that money. Shit, the platinum Daytona is not even aesthetically pleasing.

And let us not kid, ~$20k for a SS YMII? That is also ABSURD. I will take JLC's new perpetual calendar, which is actually LESS.

And then we have the GMT running in at $9,500. That is a lot of money. Jeez. I think I will probably be going vintage.

Is it wrong that this pricing actually angers me? Do not get me wrong, I can't fault Rolex, they are just trying to make it a profit. But this is maddening.
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wait....are you fucking serious?! thats laughable. 80 grand for any current production rolex is ridiculous IMHO.

yeah. wow. im amazed. but, if they can get it, i guess they will have the last laugh for now.

i really wonder though what their long term goals are, or if they feel they can simply adapt their models to the trends of the time, and their brand cache will keep them strong despite the changes. could very well be right, but its a strong deviation from what they have been doing for decades past, where the felt they had the look and feel they wanted with their watches, and stuck with it.
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I was telling myself, if the price difference wasn't too crazy. I would do the trade. But now I'm having serious 2nd thoughts. My GMT + 2-3k more, I think I'm better off getting that Cartier I've been eyeing on, or get couple new pairs of GG....

I think I'm going save up for that 1675, and get it down the road. I love the vintage Pepsi so much, owning two GMT wouldn't bother me.
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yeah. wow. im amazed. but, if they can get it, i guess they will have the last laugh for now.

i really wonder though what their long term goals are, or if they feel they can simply adapt their models to the trends of the time, and their brand cache will keep them strong despite the changes. could very well be right, but its a strong deviation from what they have been doing for decades past, where the felt they had the look and feel they wanted with their watches, and stuck with it.

That is exactly my issue. Rolex really is not 'improving.' The finishing is not getting much better, the movements are not improving that much, the designs are just the same old, same old. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

It is kind of like they are playing a game of chicken. "If we bump our prices up another grand, will people buy the same watch? What about for two grand?" I would have though that at some point, the market would have responded. Clearly that is not the case.

One thing I find particularly interesting is that Rolex continues to 'evolve' certain designs, but at the same time is not afraid to cast away previous design elements without looking back. For example... they are going back to the bi-color GMT, but there is NO precedent for a GMT with blue lettering, and a black and blue bezel. Why did they not do a coke bezel? Why not a pepsi bezel?
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For that money, I am pretty sure I will take a damn Paul Newman Daytona. Or a number of other more awesome watches. Hmmm, maybe a Vingt-8 for that money. Shit, the platinum Daytona is not even aesthetically pleasing.

And let us not kid, ~$20k for a SS YMII? That is also ABSURD. I will take JLC's new perpetual calendar, which is actually LESS.

And then we have the GMT running in at $9,500. That is a lot of money. Jeez. I think I will probably be going vintage.

Is it wrong that this pricing actually angers me? Do not get me wrong, I can't fault Rolex, they are just trying to make it a profit. But this is maddening.

 

I saw a Patek 3970J - incomplete, mind you, no second solid caseback, no stylus, no original Certificate of Origin, but an Extract from the Archives was present - for $77K at the IWJG show. I'd probably go for that versus an $80K Daytona, but that is just me.
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Is it wrong that this pricing actually angers me? Do not get me wrong, I can't fault Rolex, they are just trying to make it a profit. But this is maddening.


not wrong at all, it is pretty hard to understand why the increases are so significant. when i bought my DJ the full MSRP was 3850. only about 5 years ago.

then again, when i bought my squadra the full retail was only about 4k iirc. it has since more than doubled.

the only reason i would say that that is not a fair comparison is that when i bought the squadra is was a brand new line, they never did a square reverso before, and i knew the line was being offered up cheap to get people in the door and that if it stuck around the price would soon rise steeply. i dont think other JLC models have increased in price so significantly, but i could be wrong.
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