The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

[ismelllikepoop]

i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross

 

[Kid Nickels]



i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross

+1...

 

[Cylon]

i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross

IWC and B&R both offer military inspired cases with generic movements. If I really wanted such a look, I would rather spend $2-3k vs. $7-8k. That's all I meant by it.

I suppose I should have made it clearer that I was talking about a more macro discussion regarding the IWC brand than about the Portuguese Chrono in particular

 

[Kid Nickels]



IWC and B&R both offer military inspired cases with generic movements. If I really wanted such a look, I would rather spend $2-3k vs. $7-8k. That's all I meant by it.

I suppose I should have made it clearer that I was talking about a more macro discussion regarding the IWC brand than about the Portuguese Chrono in particular.

Really? which ones? I wasn't aware of that. The "Top Gun" supposedly has an in-house.. the others using ETA or something?

 

[Cylon]

Modified ETA. Yep. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f350/eta-iwc-movements-368030.html

 

[Cylon]

Thanks man. Now I can focus on my next watch purchase. Maybe a Reverso, IWC Port auto, or PML....

I am waiting to see what GO offers this year at baselworld before I make my decision

(in the runing so far: reverso, GO senator, submariner 5513, explorer I, zenith el primero 38mm, or omega speedy pro)

 

[ismelllikepoop]

yea, but iwc does a lot of finishing and is a highly modified movement. The bell and ross is pretty much a nice case with a generic off the shelf eta. Just a personal thing but b+r irks me with their "vintage" and heritage line when the company was started in the 90's. at least iwc has a history with providing ww1 pilots watches.

 

[Kid Nickels]

^ ya ... some of these companies' "history" is rather laughable.

 

[TheTukker]



Beautiful Lonneker

Cheers C!

 

[Cuttingboard]

I believe the pilot's watch chronograph automatic uses Calibre 79320, which is based on the Valjoux calibre 7750 and is highly modified by IWC. 79320 CALIBRE CHRONOGRAPH MOVEMENT

The Portugese Automatic 7-Day uses an in house IWC manufactured 51011 calibre.

 

[Warren G.]



I am waiting to see what GO offers this year at baselworld before I make my decision

(in the runing so far: reverso, GO senator, submariner 5513, explorer I, zenith el primero 38mm, or omega speedy pro)

great choices.

1. Submariner 5513 ...you can probably get a really nice birth year.
2. Omega Speedy ... I missed mines dearly. Good thing I know the guy that bought my Speedy. I always offer to buy it back....
3. Explorer ...a solid and stealth watch
4. Zenith

Have you try on the Speedy and Explorer yet?

 

[stanford88]

+1

 

[jazerad]

I totally misundestood the title

 

[bhall41]



I am waiting to see what GO offers this year at baselworld before I make my decision

(in the runing so far: reverso, GO senator, submariner 5513, explorer I, zenith el primero 38mm, or omega speedy pro)

Love all those watches in the running. I recently traded my 14060M for a 'transitional' 5513 Sub. The next watch in my cross hairs is a 38 mm El Primero.

 

[Dino944]

Really? which ones? I wasn't aware of that. The "Top Gun" supposedly has an in-house.. the others using ETA or something?

Hi Kid,

At least in the past most of IWC's chronographs and some of their simpler watches like the old Spitfires used Modified ETA/Valjoux movements. If you spent more money, for one that has a split second chronograph, or a perpetual calendar chronograph then they made a lot more modificications and changes to the movement. Basiacally years ago, even watches like their DaVinci Perpetual Calendar Chronograph were based on a Valjoux movement, but at that price range numerous changes were made and it woud be drastically different from a less expensive watch housing a Valjoux movement (even in their own line up). There is nothing wrong with a Valjoux or ETA base, provided its within a certain price range. IWC makes a great product, but many of their movements are not inhouse which is fine with me, but to be honest I have tired of many of their designs (but then again design is very subjective).

Best regards,
Dino

P.S. A fairly good reference for what base movements are in which watches is the Wristwatch Annual which you can get online through B&N or Amazon.