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post #19861 of 34177
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Hi Scott, yes that is an Explorer 1, but that is a vintage model.  It could be a ref 1016 or another earlier model.  Those are highly collectible.

You are correct, it is a 1967 1016.
post #19862 of 34177
That's got to be a 1016 on top. This is the watch Ian Fleming wore, and is collectible in part for that reason. I have seen these for sale up to $9000, but I think Dino's estimated range is probably pretty typical.

The next two appear to be 1018's, and early ones based on their hands, although the second 1018 appears a bit older as it doesn't have a Tritium dial (as far as I can tell on iPhone). These are all nice watches IMO. But then I have a 1018 on my wrist right now.
post #19863 of 34177
I was looking into 1016's for a while, and the price really ranges from $4,000 to $9,000, depending on the condition and patination. I have seen some truly spectacular 1016s available. Remember, of course, to buy the seller, not the watch. I think that the 1016 is the only one I would choose of the ones that you listed. It is a spectacular watch, and you likely will not lose any money on it, provided you take good care of it.
post #19864 of 34177
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Originally Posted by Allez Allez View Post

That's got to be a 1016 on top. This is the watch Ian Fleming wore, and is collectible in part for that reason. I have seen these for sale up to $9000, but I think Dino's estimated range is probably pretty typical.

The next two appear to be 1018's, and early ones based on their hands, although the second 1018 appears a bit older as it doesn't have a Tritium dial (as far as I can tell on iPhone). These are all nice watches IMO. But then I have a 1018 on my wrist right now.

They are both 1002's from 1964 and 1963 respectively. I'd love to get the Explorer, but, at $5,200, it's double what I would like to spend. The 1002's are around $1600 each.

I want one watch that I can wear with both casual and formal dress. Is that too much to ask?
post #19865 of 34177
Well in that case I think the 1002 has a 34mm case and so I'd rather go with the 36mm 1016 if you have the cash. The 1018 is also 36mm, for what it's worth, but otherwise looks like the 1002.
post #19866 of 34177
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.... a chick magnet indeed! Ted gets all the bitches.
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I bet he does!

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

I was looking into 1016's for a while, and the price really ranges from $4,000 to $9,000, depending on the condition and patination. I have seen some truly spectacular 1016s available. Remember, of course, to buy the seller, not the watch. I think that the 1016 is the only one I would choose of the ones that you listed. It is a spectacular watch, and you likely will not lose any money on it, provided you take good care of it.

Yes, I've seen asking prices of 8-9K for really top condition models, with boxes and papers.  However, those are few and far between, the bulk of them sell for considerably less than that.  When these were originally made no one thought they would be collectible some day, and most of these watches were really used and not babied when people bought them, ....so there are lots of good ones, but the ones in truly exceptional condition are rare.  Overall I agree with your assessment.

post #19867 of 34177
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Originally Posted by scottcw View Post


They are both 1002's from 1964 and 1963 respectively. I'd love to get the Explorer, but, at $5,200, it's double what I would like to spend. The 1002's are around $1600 each.

I want one watch that I can wear with both casual and formal dress. Is that too much to ask?

You have to buy what you are comfortable with in terms of both fit and price.  I'm not someone that is into oversized watches, but I would find a 34mm round watch too small, even on my relatively small wrist.  I think a 34mm round watch (square or rectangular wear & look larger)  might only work on a guy these days if he has a very thin build and is very short.  Otherwise, to me it often looks like a guy borrowed his girlfriend's watch.  If $5,200 is beyond your budget, work within your means, but keep looking for something thats 36mm and closer to what you want to spend.  Perhaps a pre-owned Explorer 1 ref 14270 or its replacement the 114270.  Depending on age and condition you should be able to find one for between $3,000-4,000.  I prefer the movement and braclet of the 114270 but thats a personal choice and either could provide you with many years of enjoyment.  Keep looking until you find the right deal.  

post #19868 of 34177
This is my next one. Will be a perfect compliment to my SubC LV.

Down the road I'd also like a polar Explorer ll.


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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

I believe Dino and I are referring to this 114270:


post #19869 of 34177
I agree with Dino. I'd start with a budget and work backwards from there in terms of finding your watch. I will add that if you are new to vintage watches, you may want to tread carefully because there are lots of little things that make a watch collectible or not. I say that as a novice in vintage collecting myself. It's amazing to me what real collectors will focus on.
post #19870 of 34177
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Originally Posted by Allez Allez View Post

I agree with Dino. I'd start with a budget and work backwards from there in terms of finding your watch. I will add that if you are new to vintage watches, you may want to tread carefully because there are lots of little things that make a watch collectible or not. I say that as a novice in vintage collecting myself. It's amazing to me what real collectors will focus on.

No shit. Read the following thread if you want to have a little insight on the craziness that embodies vintage Rolex collection:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1302703484/Rare+Rolex+6542+in+American+Pan+AM+Museum
post #19871 of 34177
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Originally Posted by Allez Allez View Post

I agree with Dino. I'd start with a budget and work backwards from there in terms of finding your watch. I will add that if you are new to vintage watches, you may want to tread carefully because there are lots of little things that make a watch collectible or not. I say that as a novice in vintage collecting myself. It's amazing to me what real collectors will focus on.

Yes, that's why I am avoiding ebay and only going with dealer who have a documented reputation. Fortunately, I work around the corner from HQ Milton in San Francisco.
post #19872 of 34177
Well, that's the smart way to do it. I also read a lot before I buy and then hope to hell I don't get burned. Still, it can be hard to tell if a dial has been refinished or not, or whether the hands are original. And then you get into whether a butterfly rotor adds value or not (not I think) and then you see an underline on a dial and people start to whip into a fury. It's totally nuts.
post #19873 of 34177
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

No shit. Read the following thread if you want to have a little insight on the craziness that embodies vintage Rolex collection:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/thread/1302703484/Rare+Rolex+6542+in+American+Pan+AM+Museum

Spotting a white dial GMT is like a Sasquatch sighting for these people. Awesome.
post #19874 of 34177
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What breed of dog is this?
post #19875 of 34177
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I am jealous. I love big bear-like dogs. I am allergic to dogs, so I have a Cavapoo. Ridiculous sounding? Absolutely. But he is a handsome little bugger, and a chick magnet indeed! Ted gets all the bitches.

Friends of ours have a cavapoo. Ridiculous name, wonderful dog. I came home one day to see that my daughter had found the cavapoo website and was looking at "available" puppies.
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