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post #19726 of 34778
Bad idea.

There is so much overlap of "range of quality" in 90% of watch brands and so many different watch subtypes (dress, casual, tool, etc) fielded by watch companies that such scales are less than useless, since they contribute nothing and end up causing needless bickering.

E.g. which is "better" - a Master Triple Calendar or a Rolex no date sub? (same price, different watch type) Which is "better", a Calatrava or a VC Ultrathin? (same type, different price) Which is "better", a Sky Dweller or a Royal Oak? (complication vs history), etc etc


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post #19727 of 34778
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

this is secksay as hell.
Thanks, Derek! It was made in the same year that my dad was, so I gave it to him during my folks' recent visit to Norway. It means a lot more to me on his wrist than it would just sitting around, and that 30T2 movement inside was built to last. The Ontario watchmaker who was mentioned earlier is experienced with these old Omega movements, so no worries about keeping it running.

Here are a few pix from the guy I bought if from; I can also find a few movement photos from when we were regulating it at the watchmaker's (it still has great amplitude and rate results) if anyone's interested. My dad was there when we visited my watchmaker friend's workbench and opened it up; he was genuinely interested in how it ticks, and it contributed greatly to the process of infusing some personal meaning into an inanimate object. Because to anyone else, it's just some random old watch:





I find that with watches, there's little point in keeping more than you can reasonably wear. Sometimes the idea of the watch provides more satisfaction than actually having it in the house, which is definitely the case with this one. There are times when it would be nice to have, but it's far outweighed by the knowledge that's being worn by someone who really appreciates it. Seeing it in a photo, or especially when we get together, makes me happy.
post #19728 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

Nice Sub, nice Pre-HD Bond.

Is there any interest in putting together a hierarchical list of "good watches"? For example:

Five figures: Patek, JLC, Vacheron, Rolex
Four figures: vintage Rolex, Omega, Grand Seiko, Seiko Prospex
Three figures: Seiko Prospex, Seiko SARB, Orient
Two figures: Seiko 5

This is based on my own narrow experience of course, and we probably want to divvy up the price hierarchy further. The other question being do we want to include certain stock movement brands (or perhaps exceptional models from such lines) as we go down in price.

Thoughts?
Watches can be an emotional thing. I find that these inevitably subjective ranking lists generate a lot more heat than light, and they're the basis of endless debate on the typical watch-geek sites. There are way too many variables for it to ever work. What I value in a watch is not necessarily what someone else is going to care about, although I'll happily give my two bits if someone I know asks me about what might be a good pick for their wants and intended uses. It's a bit counterproductive without knowing the person or the desired application, though.
post #19729 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

I like the old Curvex there Keith T... used to have one myself. Unfortunately, it was stolen about 8 months ago... frown.gif Hope you are enjoying yours in good health!

Very sorry to hear that. I hope it did not carry sentimental value in addition to whatever monetary value that might have been placed on it.

Mine does not see tons of wrist time, but still makes occasional appearances...usually when I'm dressed up and need something smaller/slimmer.

Kai: congrats and please post pix.
post #19730 of 34778
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I find that with watches, there's little point in keeping more than you can reasonably wear. Sometimes the idea of the watch provides more satisfaction than actually having it in the house, which is definitely the case with this one. There are times when it would be nice to have, but it's far outweighed by the knowledge that's being worn by someone who really appreciates it. Seeing it in a photo, or especially when we get together, makes me happy.

LOVE THIS, Belligero.

QFT.
post #19731 of 34778
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Bad idea.
There is so much overlap of "range of quality" in 90% of watch brands and so many different watch subtypes (dress, casual, tool, etc) fielded by watch companies that such scales are less than useless, since they contribute nothing and end up causing needless bickering.
E.g. which is "better" - a Master Triple Calendar or a Rolex no date sub? (same price, different watch type) Which is "better", a Calatrava or a VC Ultrathin? (same type, different price) Which is "better", a Sky Dweller or a Royal Oak? (complication vs history), etc etc

i agree here. those types of lists are rarely helpful.
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i went and put the rubber strap on my 112. was not expecting to like it, but turns out, i love it. supremely comfortable, no worries of sweat damage in the summer, and i think it looks super cool.

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post #19732 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

LOVE THIS, Belligero.

QFT.
Thanks, Keith! cheers.gif

It was rewarding to find this, as it's not the type of thing my dad would spend time looking into for himself. Raising five boys was his main priority in life for quite some time, but I know that he appreciates tradition and understatement, so the watch suits perfectly. It looks natural on him, and he wears it daily.

—Ryan
post #19733 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

I find that with watches, there's little point in keeping more than you can reasonably wear. Sometimes the idea of the watch provides more satisfaction than actually having it in the house, which is definitely the case with this one. There are times when it would be nice to have, but it's far outweighed by the knowledge that's being worn by someone who really appreciates it. Seeing it in a photo, or especially when we get together, makes me happy.

Great watch...even better story!!!  Giving some something that we enjoy, because we know it would be enjoyed/appreciated more by someone else, is wonderful.  Knowing he is wearing it and enjoying it must make you feel great, and I am sure he takes great pride in how he has raised you. 

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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

Nice Sub, nice Pre-HD Bond.

Is there any interest in putting together a hierarchical list of "good watches"? For example:

Five figures: Patek, JLC, Vacheron, Rolex
Four figures: vintage Rolex, Omega, Grand Seiko, Seiko Prospex
Three figures: Seiko Prospex, Seiko SARB, Orient
Two figures: Seiko 5

This is based on my own narrow experience of course, and we probably want to divvy up the price hierarchy further. The other question being do we want to include certain stock movement brands (or perhaps exceptional models from such lines) as we go down in price.

Thoughts?

 

I think we have already seen people try to do something like that here and on other sites.  As Belligero suggest it creates more strife than enlightment.  I've seen it too many times where someone has a meltdown because their favorite brand is on one level rather than another.  Then they spend 10 pages trying to explain why the list is incorrect, incomplete, or unfair.   In addition, while we all have our own favorites and feelings among the various brands we are all here because we appreciate watches.  While we may believe that some brands are better than others in theory, no one watch will be ideal for everyone, a generic list serves little purpose other than to possibly alienate or annoy some SF members.  I own and/or like the watches I do without regard for where anyone perceives they belong on a list.  I appreciate their designs, heritage, quality, and that they suit my needs and taste...and I think that is something that most watch collector/SF members do on their own. 
post #19734 of 34778


New strap from Camille Fournet. Took about 2 weeks from ordering the custom date to receiving it. I will take more pictures of the strap itself later. Very high quality feeling and looking, in my most humble of opinions. The ostrich is super soft and comfortable. The black OEM gator strap was just a bit too severe for my tastes.

Funny enough, when I received the strap, it was absolutely HUGE. I had to take it to my local watch repair shop, and he punched some holes in it. I guess that is just part of the game!
post #19735 of 34778
Needless to say I disagree.

The hierarchical suit thread has been beneficial, it would seem to me that one for watches would be as well. Especially at the low end, where people can realize that for the same money one pays for a designer brand watch, they could buy one that could be appreciated on its own.
post #19736 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
I think we have already seen people try to do something like that here and on other sites. As Belligero suggest it creates more strife than enlightment. I've seen it too many times where someone has a meltdown because their favorite brand is on one level rather than another. Then they spend 10 pages trying to explain why the list is incorrect, incomplete, or unfair. In addition, while we all have our own favorites and feelings among the various brands we are all here because we appreciate watches. While we may believe that some brands are better than others in theory, no one watch will be ideal for everyone, a generic list serves little purpose other than to possibly alienate or annoy some SF members. I own and/or like the watches I do without regard for where anyone perceives they belong on a list. I appreciate their designs, heritage, quality, and that they suit my needs and taste...and I think that is something that most watch collector/SF members do on their own.

 

 

+1,000,000

post #19737 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

New strap from Camille Fournet.

Really transforms how the watch presents to my eyes. Well done.
post #19738 of 34778
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Originally Posted by PartagasIV View Post

Really transforms how the watch presents to my eyes. Well done.

Thank you! If it makes sense, it really help the blue to pop I find. Softens the appearance a bunch. The blued hands and moonphase disk are really the stars now, which I appreciate.
post #19739 of 34778
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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post

Needless to say I disagree.

The hierarchical suit thread has been beneficial, it would seem to me that one for watches would be as well. Especially at the low end, where people can realize that for the same money one pays for a designer brand watch, they could buy one that could be appreciated on its own.

I think on some level the some of this has been covered a while ago when people questioned, "The Big Three."  What it means, who is in it, why some that are great are not part of it, etc.  I think a hierarchical list of entry level watches might be helpful to some but it make more sense on what I believe SF already has on the forum as something like the "The Affordable Watch Thread" or the "Poor Man's Watch Thread."    

post #19740 of 34778
The strap itself appears to be lovely.

My wrist has shrunk significantly, well in watch strap and cuff terms, since I've been on the shelf with an injury so I feel your pain.
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