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Epaulet - that is a great looking watch.

DAMN YOU SPEEDY OWNERS!!!!
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Thought I'd contribute to the Portuguese thread. To be honest more accurate than my BP. Prettier too. Go figure. wink.gif

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^^^ That would be on my wrist every time I wore a navy suit or blazer.  Sweet.

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Yes roger but you would undoubtedly not be on time!

Thanks for all the kind and informative comments btw guys.
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I know right!?
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 You would be a more useful contributor if you had the ability to recognize intentional overstatement and to distinguish fact from opinion.

 

Returning to porn, have a peek at this IWC.  Elegance on the wrist.  Chances of being confused with a hockey puck = zero.  Badass mall ninja factor = zero.

 

Classic beauty!  

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Thought I'd contribute to the Portuguese thread. To be honest more accurate than my BP. Prettier too. Go figure. wink.gif
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Need dat.
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great choice mike, i almost covered my screen with jizz!foo.gif

Haha, I had a literal LOL from that. Thanks for the good words everyone.

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Thought I'd contribute to the Portuguese thread. To be honest more accurate than my BP. Prettier too. Go figure. wink.gif
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This is fantastic. I wish that I had a bigger wrist to pull this model off.
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About big wrists - Lange's new 50mm X 20 mm watch!

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/introducing-the-a-lange-shne-grand-complication
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Originally Posted by marblehouse View Post

More embellishment does imply a more labor intensive construction.

This is simply false. I can do more embellishment faster if I take less care in the execution. In contrast, if I take more care in the execution, it might take me more time to do less embellishment. I don't understand why this principle is proving so evasive in this discussion.
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

I think this depends on the particular Patek and the particular new Lange. Pateks as you are well aware have different levels of finishing, and Lange finishing while qualitatively different (“louder”) than Patek are quantitatively superior to other examples of “loud” finishing, such as say Dornblueth or GO; within the alligator suit spectrum there are still better and worse made alligator suits.

Again, there is a failure of distinction underlying this commentary. Yes, Patek adds varying amounts of embellishment to its movements, depending on the complications and price point. However, the quality of the embellishment is about the same across their entire line. The perlage on a basic Calatrava will be just as neat and fine as on a tourbillion minute repeater.

Lange finishing is not just "louder" than Patek's, but includes more embellishment: including the blued screwed, screwed chatons, etc. My point is that those added features don't make the Lange better finished--just finished differently. It's similar to comparing a pair of heavily brogued alligator Lobbs to ones made from plain calfskin without broguing. The former is not better finished than the latter. It just louder and more embellished.
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I suspect you are against “louder” finishes in general - which would be in line with your other preferences - so even if a Lange were to finished “as well” as a Patek it would still fall short in your estimation. That said, while I don’t subscribe to that POV, I don’t see anything wrong with that point of view as well.

No, I'm not against "louder" finishes in general. I don't like the design philosophy underlying Lange's specific approach. It is a blatant attempt to establish heritage by incorporating feature not specific to Lange, but common to fine movements in the past and which have disappeared because they no longer function. It would be like featuring headlights that look like gas lamps to resurrect a defunct car marque. I think that's pretty tasteless.
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

 You would be a more useful contributor if you had the ability to recognize intentional overstatement and to distinguish fact from opinion.

Returning to porn, have a peek at this IWC.  Elegance on the wrist.  Chances of being confused with a hockey puck = zero.  Badass mall ninja factor = zero.



I actually really dislike the small Portuguese.

The original Portuguese was not a regular production watch. It was the result of a special request for a wrist watch large enough to accommodate a pocket watch movement for greater accuracy. The customer was supposedly Portuguese. Hence, it was always made with random dials in black and white, using different numerals and markers. The dials were generic in style--whatever was popular at the time a particular Portuguese was requested.

Hence, the only feature that distinguishes the Portuguese as a Portuguese is the large 42mm diameter case, with a bezel and profile as slim as possible to cut down on size. By shrinking the Portuguese, such as in the case of the 3531, that essential quality is lost, and all you have is a reproduction of a random 1930's watch that could have been made by anybody. The dial, with its Arabic numerals and dot markers, can be found on any number of watches from that period--both by IWC and other manufacturers.
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^^ This might be the first time I've heard of someone NOT liking this model..
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

^^ This might be the first time I've heard of someone NOT liking this model..

Maybe on here. It is quite disliked by watch guys, and maybe most of all by IWC collectors. Keep in mind, SF'ers spend a lot more time learning about clothes than watches.
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

^^ This might be the first time I've heard of someone NOT liking this model..

 

Yep - and I generally don't rley on SF for my watchtalk (though I think this thread is terrific).  Disliked by watch guys?  Don't think so.  There was a lineup to buy it when I sold it - which certainly has not been the case with every watch I have sold over the years. Particularly disliked by IWC guys?  Well it was very well received on the IWC forums that I posted it on when I picked it up. 

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Again, there is a failure of distinction underlying this commentary. Yes, Patek adds varying amounts of embellishment to its movements, depending on the complications and price point. However, the quality of the embellishment is about ]the same across their entire line. The perlage on a basic Calatrava will be just as neat and fine as on a tourbillion minute repeater.

Actually, not really!

This suggestion always gets pooh poohed on the internetz, but I say this because I've noticed it while examining many PP watches differences in the quality of finishing (particularly the anglage) from base models to the more fancy ones! I started examining them in ADs after I noticed the occasional post in the PP forums about this phenomenon. It's easy to make a comparison because so many models use the same base calibre; in the more "entry level" pateks, the anglage can be "rougher" (for lack of a better term), and there was one where I even saw vertical wavy marks.

That said, my sample size for "nicer" models is small (~10) so maybe I just haven't examined enough perpetual calendars.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Lange finishing is not just "louder" than Patek's, but includes more embellishment: including the blued screwed, screwed chatons, etc. My point is that those added features don't make the Lange better finished--just finished differently. It's similar to comparing a pair of heavily brogued alligator Lobbs to ones made from plain calfskin without broguing. The former is not better finished than the latter. It just louder and more embellished.

That's pretty much exactly what I was saying, but c'est la vie. smile.gif
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